Coup in Bangladesh - Page 58

Originally posted by: JustRandomGirl

First of all, I am totally against what the Hindus and other minorities faced and how they were attacked.

People including Hindus were celebrating after Hasina resigned was because her party was the one who ordered the polices to attack the students and she didnt take any responsibility for it. Thousands died in that unfortunate event including Hindus and kids!

But some people including the ex party took advantage and tried to attack Hindus , Christians and other minorities. That I will never support even if its done by Muslims. What is wrong is wrong.

Indian people or any people have all the rights to be concerned about Hindus in Bangladesh. We Bangladeshis are concerned too. Some Bangladeshis sadly dont care and has a narrow mentality of wanting bad for them. These people are not to be taken seriously, they will learn their lesson one day. But not everyone is like that, there are many who are genuinely concerned for them too.

I am sorry if any of my posts came across wanting bad for Hindus cause that was never my intention.

However what I have problem with is some the false news being spread around. Some temples were destroyed that was true, and the Hindu girl asking for help was a real video. Those were true and authentic sources. It actually happened. I really hope and wish the person , the extremist or whoever behind these attacks get punished, everyone deserves peace.

But some of the pictures false narratives were stated.

Example the house of cricketer Mashrafe Mortaza’s was burnt but it was spreaded as rumours this was Litton Das’s house. Litton Das himself posted on his social media that it wasnt his house and he and his family were safe. Another example was a girl standing to protect herself using a weapon, it was said it was Hindu girl taking Kaali Maa’s avatar to protect her temple, but in a reality it was a girl downstairs her house to protect it from robbers with some people. Sadly people were quick to believe these false rumours.

After the attacks,there were people who tried to protect them that was true too, but here someone is strongly assured this is a fake photo. My friend was there so I know it is true. If one wants to believe it or not up to them.

I understand if people here condemn what happened with Hindus in Bangladesh, because its something they should exactly do.

But if there are some people who genuinely tried to help why is one so quick to say its a false picture?! Not everyone is bad. Yeah there are bad humans but there is good too.

Whatever I posted in this thread was to clarify whatever was false news or some misunderstandings. I support people supporting Hindus in this thread, they should live peacefully, no one deserves to experience what they faced.

I think the posts condemning are not about you. You have since start said that attacks are happening and there are many protecting it.

Issue with such episodes is that one party accepts any thing presented as true (even the fake news being circulated) and other party uses those fake news to say that entire narrative is fake (happened severely during Israel Palestine conflict, when I noticed it properly for the first time since I was more or less having a neutral view) very few have guts to accept that while there are many fake news/videos circulating, yet the overall issue is severe.

About Haseena, I got to know from people here that she was a dictator and hence her removal was necessary, but could it happen without such an unrest in the country.

While I completely understand that not all the people there are bad and many want a good future for minorities, I am not ready to accept that all the attacks on Hindus are only by Haseena's supporters (who by all probability would be themselves fearing for their lives) there are many common people who are using this to torture Hindus. Be it supporters of BNP or Jamat or maybe none.

Bangladesh as I had said always was facing a slow population dissemination of Hindus whose population share has reduced over 70% in last 50 years. And now it's a major blow. Already it's a 71 like situation popping up with many Hindus reaching out towards India. Unlike what many Bangladeshis want to portray it's not a Bangladesh issue anymore (people on Twitter are making statements like our head of state is a Nobel laureate not a tea seller), even your Nobel laureate head of state has said that India shouldn't have scuffled it out as internal issue. India always had a friendly feeling towards Bangladesh. But lately Bangladesh has started feeling hatred towards India for we are not respecting the sovereignty.

What shall we do then? Whether react to such situations in Bangladesh or not?

I am sure that many of your friends and many people would have genuinely tried to help protect from attacks, but that again doesn't change the fact that many went there just for the sake of it and didn't think they would be actually needed. What could they do with 7-8 sticks in their hands to an armed mob? And also why do a photoshoot? Don't you think that dilutes the whole purpose. These are the reasons why some feel that entire activity was fake.

You have been always a friend to most here and all know you very well, that was the reason we accepted when you told a news was fake(without even checking elsewhere)

I had said earlier that I don't think Bangladesh will soon turn to Pakistan and I still hold by that, but the way it is now situation is scary and I am afraid I might be proven wrong.

This video pretty much summed up the issue very well

https://youtu.be/Z1O1KhGkjGg?si=1gwy3xosNOAd3r9i

About 29 Awami League leaders have been killed so far as per the reports. So I don't know how much they are involved in killing Hindus at this point of time. Traditionally Hindus were the supporters of Sheikh Hasina's party as they were fairly less attacked during her tenure. It is difficult to comprehend why they would attack their own supporters particularly when their leader has left and they are themselves subject to violence. From the news reports, however many Hindu victims have accused Jamaat e Islami people to have attacked them. In one of the videos a girl was also saying it's the BNP supporters who have attacked their homes. If Awami League supporters are also attacking Hindus then it's strange, but not so strange, that arch political rivals found a common ground when it came to attacking the disbelievers.

https://www.opindia.com/2024/08/women-raped-villages-temples-burnt-hospitals-denying-treatment-hindus-bangladesh-ongoing-genocide/

In the ocean of information that social media manages to provide, some cases of violence may have been fake news but a large part of it is not. Not just social media or Indian media, even Bangladesh media has reported these attacks .

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/bangladesh/news/205-incidents-persecution-minorities-aug-5-oikya-parishad-3673106

Another thing I wish to add here is, Political violence is different from Sectarian violence and both are different from religious persecution / communal violence. What's happening between Sheikh Haseena's supporters and BNP / Jamaat supporters is political violence. At one point Sheikh Hasina's people killed her opponents. Now her opponents are killing her people. There is a power struggle, a political rivalry..

Ahamdiya mosque have been attacked and their homes have been burnt as well. But Ahmadiyas are not even considered as true Muslims by the other sects in Islam. They are the victims of sectarian violence within the community. Unfortunately Ahmadiya community also supported the idea of Pakistan which was based on the religous hatred towards the Hindu community. How the Muslim community deals with this sectarian divide amongst them is upto them. Neither I am a stakeholder nor my opinion would be important. I hope solutions are found though. Life is precious and should not be wasted in killing each other. I saw the video of Ahmadiya Muslim Jamaat, Bangladesh, PR secretary video, sadly felt, even he kind of downplayed saying that the attacks on Hindus this time has not been much. However, he said this was told to him by Bangladesh Hindu Buddhist Christian Unity Forum. But, the BHBCUF has only been releasing the list of attacks that have happened. The optimist in me wishes to give him a benifit of doubt, the realist in me doesn't. I don't know.

What's happening to Hindus in Bangladesh however, is sheer hatred towards the idolators. Hindus were never in power, they never ordered killing of any party workers. They never organised to kill anyone. They are insignificant in numbers so as to decide who would be in power. They are no threat to people aspiring for power, they will not kill anyone in future, then why are they being subjected to this kind violence if not for hatred against their faith ? It's not Hindu vs Muslim. It's a genuine uncomfortable question. Also the degree of brutality to which they are subjected to is insane. Hung upside down, women raped, bodies mutilated. Temples are the centres of Hindu faith. Destroying them is certainly a display of animosity towards their faith. How do we deal with this ? Shall we ever find answers ?

All kinds of violence claims lives, all must stop, but the magnitude of cruelty is not the same, the solutions are not the same, hence categorizing them differently becomes important.

https://x.com/sunandavashisht/status/1821731652009390387

India has welcomed the volunteer groups who offered to help from the floor of the Parliament. The reason we wary is because the history has proven and is proving yet again that these efforts, if any at first place, may not be enough. Hence, important to highlight these atrocities. While many news outlets have reported these incidents of violence, it's only because of the disturbing visuals that the world has reacted a little. India has also raised concern for Hindu lives, specifically Hindu lives and also of other minorities.

Originally posted by: RockingSunny

You all were actually right about hasina. She was truly cruel and a dictator. She had lots of innocent prisoners hidden in her house. With this revelation and the way things are going I strongly believe hasina is responsible for the riots. She planned these for some political agenda but unfortunately it backfired on her leading to her fleeing away from the country to save herself. She is also actively involved in all this

Tbh around few years ago I used to be fond of Hasina. I thought she was good cause she did help to improve roads in Bangladesh. But lost all respect for her as she became more power hungry over the years, and started torturing those who didnt support her. I never expected her to be a dictator. And even the roads she improved she took a massive amount of loans for that, forget the loan she cant even afford to pay the interest of those loans, so its quite concerning on how Bangladesh will repay these loans. It is also investigated that Awami League, Hasina’s party people money laundered $150 billion in last 15 years!!! This is how corrupted Awami League was. They are tarnising Bangabandhu’s reputation.

About her locking people in the house, people from her parties used to abduct those citizens who would said anything against her or the government mostly. That placed is called Aynaghor meaning “Mirror Home”. Quite a lot of people went mysteriously missing over the years and no one know what actually happened to them. After Hasina is gone, it was all exposed on what actually happened to those people. They were confined in that place each person in a room with walls where they cant communicate with anyone. They were blindfolded when intergorrated and beaten up. They wont allowed outside. Worse than jail. They were allowed for bathroom breaks 3 times a day only. A lot of them either died or lost their mental stability there.

After Hasina isnt there, a lot of people from Aynaghor were released. And thats how its slowly found out what happened to them. There is even a sad story a guy went mysteriously missing and his wife always felt he will be back. She waited for a decade and then remarried last year. And then the guy , her ex-husband came from Aynaghor.

Also I dont think Pakistan maybe involved here cause their own economic situation is not good at all.

Originally posted by: JustRandomGirl

Tbh around few years ago I used to be fond of Hasina. I thought she was good cause she did help to improve roads in Bangladesh. But lost all respect for her as she became more power hungry over the years, and started torturing those who didnt support her. I never expected her to be a dictator. And even the roads she improved she took a massive amount of loans for that, forget the loan she cant even afford to pay the interest of those loans, so its quite concerning on how Bangladesh will repay these loans. It is also investigated that Awami League, Hasina’s party people money laundered $150 billion in last 15 years!!! This is how corrupted Awami League was. They are tarnising Bangabandhu’s reputation.

About her locking people in the house, people from her parties used to abduct those citizens who would said anything against her or the government mostly. That placed is called Aynaghor meaning “Mirror Home”. Quite a lot of people went mysteriously missing over the years and no one know what actually happened to them. After Hasina is gone, it was all exposed on what actually happened to those people. They were confined in that place each person in a room with walls where they cant communicate with anyone. They were blindfolded when intergorrated and beaten up. They wont allowed outside. Worse than jail. They were allowed for bathroom breaks 3 times a day only. A lot of them either died or lost their mental stability there.

After Hasina isnt there, a lot of people from Aynaghor were released. And thats how its slowly found out what happened to them. There is even a sad story a guy went mysteriously missing and his wife always felt he will be back. She waited for a decade and then remarried last year. And then the guy , her ex-husband came from Aynaghor.

Also I dont think Pakistan maybe involved here cause their own economic situation is not good at all.

And about Pakistan, no matter how bad their economic condition is, they will never shy away from doing these kind of terror attacks, they have all the money need to instigate hate against minorities and attack them and they also have a motive to destroy Bangladesh

Originally posted by: JustRandomGirl

Tbh around few years ago I used to be fond of Hasina. I thought she was good cause she did help to improve roads in Bangladesh. But lost all respect for her as she became more power hungry over the years, and started torturing those who didnt support her. I never expected her to be a dictator. And even the roads she improved she took a massive amount of loans for that, forget the loan she cant even afford to pay the interest of those loans, so its quite concerning on how Bangladesh will repay these loans. It is also investigated that Awami League, Hasina’s party people money laundered $150 billion in last 15 years!!! This is how corrupted Awami League was. They are tarnising Bangabandhu’s reputation.

About her locking people in the house, people from her parties used to abduct those citizens who would said anything against her or the government mostly. That placed is called Aynaghor meaning “Mirror Home”. Quite a lot of people went mysteriously missing over the years and no one know what actually happened to them. After Hasina is gone, it was all exposed on what actually happened to those people. They were confined in that place each person in a room with walls where they cant communicate with anyone. They were blindfolded when intergorrated and beaten up. They wont allowed outside. Worse than jail. They were allowed for bathroom breaks 3 times a day only. A lot of them either died or lost their mental stability there.

After Hasina isnt there, a lot of people from Aynaghor were released. And thats how its slowly found out what happened to them. There is even a sad story a guy went mysteriously missing and his wife always felt he will be back. She waited for a decade and then remarried last year. And then the guy , her ex-husband came from Aynaghor.

Also I dont think Pakistan maybe involved here cause their own economic situation is not good at all.

Regarding pakistan well economic situation is not a factor for them to stop terrorism. ISIS are spread across many places so all they need is a good plan to conduct these attacks

Now I understand why everybody cheered for hasina leaving the country(minus that undergarment thing. Nothing justifies that)

See the number of people

https://youtu.be/YoR5e0KSmr0?si=_qgU6kimuSLqXRlQ

I feel so bad..

Originally posted by: Swathi.A

See the number of people

https://youtu.be/YoR5e0KSmr0?si=_qgU6kimuSLqXRlQ

I feel so bad..

https://x.com/Aabha108/status/1822281818122428648

check it out guys