"Mein" (ARY Digital) - Ayeza Khan, Wahaj Ali #3 - Page 50

Originally posted by: chicksoup

I have no idea how ppl compared Haya and MJ. 😂Here I've been comparing Ayra- and Haya and thanking God Ayra is far better to watch...I have no complaints from the character or actor - perfectly entertaining and somewhat unpredictable - but really interesting to watch. Good writing...again I won't enjoy TB2 as much as mein if there's a spineless character like Haya. Hope the writing improves on the third wheel.

And it's the other way round for me ...I could tolerate haya becauee we knew she wouldn't get murtasim but here ayra is literally zaids wife And she doesn't even treat him well nor cares about his feelings

This reason is enough for me to not ship or root for them because i just cant tolerate watching a fl treating the ml like thrash...that's the reason why I never liked meerab...even recently I was watching a show called barsatein where the fl used to blame the ml for every misery happening in her life and went on to marry someone else I just hate such characters

Originally posted by: chicksoup

It's very unlikely this story was written to keep Zaid - Ayra as a couple. What it intended to show was whether all love stories like Zaid's will stand the test of family drama and politics and unfortunately Ayra decided to take that plunge. So this story will look extremely toxic to Ayra fans. The conclusion from the drama for Ayra seems to be that she's better off being a career girl than even think about attaching herself to any man. She's a loner...she enjoys being that- just that she's conditioned into believing this is her happily ever after. Zaid and Mub are conditioned too...each one has to break out of that and choose the less toxic alternative.

I don't want Zaid and Ayra as a couple. A spineless man like Zaid who says that his wife should hide about the harassment she faced is something I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy, having seen many cases where women are scared to reveal that they have been approached by family members to keep peace in the family, it was difficult to see Ayra not fighting back with Zaid's brother in law, the change in her demeanor from two different episodes of harassment was clearly portrayed and it was horrifying to say the least. I do not consider someone like Zaid a prize, Ayra's independence and sense of self worth is reflected in scene as small as Zaid asking her to help him wear a tie where she turns on YouTube to learn it and he says that he could have taught her. She is self sufficient, just in this relationship because of the facade of love this man has created for her, as she said she'll fight with people till Zaid loves her, she isn't like Mubashira who'd fight for a man who loves another

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

I don’t understand the criticism Wahaj gets. His character is underwritten and hardly gets screentime but whatever it gets, he gives his best. He cannot play Murtasim everytime. His scenes with Ayeza are specially fantastic and I hope they work together in the future again.

I think people are mostly disappointed with his looks and his performance like the dukhiyaara, kismat ka mara..as saad he had the same thing to do and even as zaid he has nothing substantial to offer..

I hate badar for giving wahaj such poorly written characters and on top of that executing his scenes so poorlu

Originally posted by: Rashi23

And it's the other way round for me ...I could tolerate haya becauee we knew she wouldn't get murtasim but here ayra is literally zaids wife And she doesn't even treat him well nor cares about his feelings

This reason is enough for me to not ship or root for them because i just cant tolerate watching a fl treating the ml like thrash...that's the reason why I never liked meerab...even recently I was watching a show called barsatein where the fl used to blame the ml for every misery happening in her life and went on to marry someone else I just hate such characters

Haya partly ruined Murtasim for me. I can't tolerate that...when I think of how he agreed to marry her...my blood boils. Such a worthless character.

Characters are much better written in mein any day for me. I loved the chemistry in TB, but story is far better in mein... chemistry is great too.

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

This is very true. Someone with MJ’s temperament would be very hard to be in a relationship with. Mental illness cannot excuse bad behaviour. And if you do suffer from mental illness, it is your responsibility to seek out treatment to try your best to manage it. There may still be some bad moments and a good partner would accept you for them, but what MJ was exhibiting was beyond anything reasonable. Having said that, she was being way too fake nice with Zaid that I was afraid he would fall for her fake persona. What happens when the true Mubashira comes out, which it eventually will. That’s why I enjoyed that last scene in the hotel so much. It wasn’t fake Mubashira and Zaid was fine with her, more than fine actually, he was amused. Of course there’s still the scheming plot that will come out to ruin things.

This is why I think that they should not have touched something like BPD (or whatever her mental condition is), if they were unable to treat it sensibly. It is so unfair to use such a condition as just a prop! I am not sure if I am hallucinating, but I have a vague memory of Jaffer saying that their mother leaving made her that way (?). If the childhood trauma of abandonment had triggered her mental condition, her oscillating between the far ends of the spectrum is understandable - exhibiting the extreme self-importance and self-worth - 'Main Mubashira Jaffar hoon, I am perfect' statement to feeling completely worthless. The crux might be that within her, she believes that she is 'unlovable' - not worthy to be loved (did she say this somewhere?), this makes her vulnerable, but she is not ready to show that. And on contrary, at the opposite end, she is formidable and rich - she uses that to make herself indispensable to others - 'you don't love me, but you cannot ignore me' kinda attitude! In my opinion, that is why the social output matters to her - she veils her vulnerability with the societal validation. If they have brought the subject of mental illness to the platter, they need to fix it responsibly too. Mubashira Jaffar is grey, I don't deny that. But she needs to be healed - if not Zaid, she needs someone who would love her for what she is and brings her to the middle, not to either ends of the spectrum. Just what I think. (And I wonder whether the writer has put this much of thought while writing these characters, sometimes they seem haphazardly put together though )

Originally posted by: SwatiSingh79

I don't want Zaid and Ayra as a couple. A spineless man like Zaid who says that his wife should hide about the harassment she faced is something I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy, having seen many cases where women are scared to reveal that they have been approached by family members to keep peace in the family, it was difficult to see Ayra not fighting back with Zaid's brother in law, the change in her demeanor from two different episodes of harassment was clearly portrayed and it was horrifying to say the least. I do not consider someone like Zaid a prize, Ayra's independence and sense of self worth is reflected in scene as small as Zaid asking her to help him wear a tie where she turns on YouTube to learn it and he says that he could have taught her. She is self sufficient, just in this relationship because of the facade of love this man has created for her, as she said she'll fight with people till Zaid loves her, she isn't like Mubashira who'd fight for a man who loves another

If that's how you have interpreted Zaid, you will be fine with Ayra being the independent woman...chalo good.

When it comes to harassment... there was no physical harassment and yes, often that's how ppl neglect victims. However Ayra is quite capable of taking it up herself as she's going to show in future, I hope. I like it when women handle these issues themselves - really. None of us need a man to support us in this regard...

Also for me this show is about how Zaid and MJ handle situations. If I go on about the morality of the characters believe me, I can't watch any show for that matter. Humans are grey. Yes, some are really positive, some grey and some are negative and criminals. But it's not really easy to divide people on that basis..lines blur.

Now, for me, I see this show as Zaid loved Ayra but since she didn't choose him, he married MJ in an impulse and treated her badly. Blackmailed and then married Ayra finally. Then he started liking MJ as well. Now, this story is about whose love lasts, Zaid-Ayra or Zaid-MJ. Now I judge this based on the dynamics between the couples. Ayra-Zaid don't seem compatible. She brings down his energy. Ayra might not be negative but she is selfish and passive narcissist. Her behaviour was same with her brother as well. Even with Zaid before marriage for that matter.

Then comes MJ. Obviously she is disrespectful, mean and what not. But in her and Zaid's relationship, she never was mean with Zaid. Infact she always had a nice opinion about him. Yes, she didn't want the divorcee tag second time hence agreed for his 2nd marriage but she does like him genuinely as well. That's how and why I root for Zaid and Mubashira bcz yes, she plots and plans but when it comes to Zaid, she genuinely is falling for him. Now if we expect her not to try to win him over and be cool with Ayra and be selfless in loving Zaid, that for me is quite difficult when Ayra(supposedly positive, innocent and right) also couldn't tolerate MJ and literally stops Zaid from even spending time with Zaid. She married him knowing MJ will always be there (Infact demanded to he married with the consent of his fam) So, obviously, MJ is going to create problems for Ayra. Also Zaid knows how his relationship with Ayra is. Ayra just demands and never gives..

So yes, I judge the show only based on the relationship and dynamics between the pairs. If I like people based on who is positive, negative and grey, then I can't digest most shows I guess. You just fall for a person and there's no reasoning. Person can be good bad..you can't stop.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C16saGSIIJ9/?igsh=NzMybGE5eW05bHk1

I like their expressions..wonder what Zaid's thinking (Like we always do😂)

So much wasted potential..

Originally posted by: anu41982

This is why I think that they should not have touched something like BPD (or whatever her mental condition is), if they were unable to treat it sensibly. It is so unfair to use such a condition as just a prop! I am not sure if I am hallucinating, but I have a vague memory of Jaffer saying that their mother leaving made her that way (?). If the childhood trauma of abandonment had triggered her mental condition, her oscillating between the far ends of the spectrum is understandable - exhibiting the extreme self-importance and self-worth - 'Main Mubashira Jaffar hoon, I am perfect' statement to feeling completely worthless. The crux might be that within her, she believes that she is 'unlovable' - not worthy to be loved (did she say this somewhere?), this makes her vulnerable, but she is not ready to show that. And on contrary, at the opposite end, she is formidable and rich - she uses that to make herself indispensable to others - 'you don't love me, but you cannot ignore me' kinda attitude! In my opinion, that is why the social output matters to her - she veils her vulnerability with the societal validation. If they have brought the subject of mental illness to the platter, they need to fix it responsibly too. Mubashira Jaffar is grey, I don't deny that. But she needs to be healed - if not Zaid, she needs someone who would love her for what she is and brings her to the middle, not to either ends of the spectrum. Just what I think. (And I wonder whether the writer has put this much of thought while writing these characters, sometimes they seem haphazardly put together though )

Absolutely right on Mubashira and her abandonment issues. She knows she's formidable and though she may not have called herself unlovable- she's only proud to say she doesn't need love. Remember that ashiq at the anni party who was gushing over her and she said - excuse me, this is my anniversary and I don't value love - only loyalty matters to me. That's her fear of abandonment that made her carefully choose a first husband who was not her ideal, but she had a feeling he'd be loyal - because he had chased her, promised her loyalty and was even below her class like Rayyan kept berating her choice and his betrayal with her so called friend really threw her off the track

And I love it that her healing comes from within herself. It's not Zaid's love that heals her. It's her love for him that heals her...that's very touching about this story.

Originally posted by: arfanazneen

https://www.instagram.com/p/C16saGSIIJ9/?igsh=NzMybGE5eW05bHk1

I like their expressions..wonder what Zaid's thinking (Like we always do😂)

So much wasted potential..

And the way he looks at her...like he is looking through her soul. ❤️