"Mein" (ARY Digital) - Ayeza Khan, Wahaj Ali #3 - Page 44

Originally posted by: chicksoup

I often get the feeling this is Ayra's story too. If there wasn't a parallel love story going on, we'd really be watching how her reactions to the situations in her life take her to wherever ...professionally she will definitely be well established...she always kept that above even Zaid - but what will she lose in the process of chasing her dreams. It's a separate show altogether...

That’s why ZaidxAyra endgame doesn’t make sense to me. Ayra deserves better than being the bahu of this shitty family and so-called upper class society forever. I feel she was brought into the house only so that the makers can make Zaid fall for MJ.

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

That’s why ZaidxAyra endgame doesn’t make sense to me. Ayra deserves better than being the bahu of this shitty family and so-called upper class society forever. I feel she was brought into the house only so that the makers can make Zaid fall for MJ.

She chose it. Zaid wanted to keep her away from this and make a world of their own... she's the one who wanted acceptance and social standing of the family.

What was that dialogue she told Zaid about being born poor is different from something something... implying she'd never understand how he can go from such a rich family to become so poor or something...that's how I understood it at least. The question is, would Ayra have made the same demands on Zaid if he was not this rich.

Imagine he was middle class. Her family is slightly richer. Her brother refuses marriage. She accepts his decision. Zaid marries a widow or divorcee....will Ayra show the same zeal to be united with him? Will she agree to be a second wife to him then? There's no debating there's a little bit of truth in what Asif says about her. Ayra can make it on her own, definitely. But she enjoys Zaid's social status too.

Originally posted by: chicksoup

It makes sense only if they get to a point where Mubashira sacrifices something very close to her heart for him...that too without knowing his feelings clearly... He probably needs that to be sure of her loyalty and sincerity towards him. Zaid already knows Ayra won't meet his expectations, but since he settled for a relationship for companionship and not love, he's willing to adjust...until something very close to his heart is threatened.

His relationship with Asif is actually deeper than that, I feel. He's a giver, until his father threatened his individuality. Even then when he has proven his own worth to himself, he's not upset with Asif...it's like he knows his thought process and he knows he can adjust with it because he loves his father. There's no guilt involved in that relationship.

With Ayra- his feelings have changed with his expectations. She's not that person he can blindly trust to back him up ... she looks out for herself first. Asif- he looks out for the business, for his family ...and not just his own selfish gains...he's still a team player. Ayra is a loner actually. She might work for a team to display her skills, but deep down she's very selfish. Still, Zaid is bound to her by his guilt and sense of righteousness. Only she can let go of him now, I feel. She doesn't even trust him anymore, which will make it easier for her to let go.

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Zaid's energy level when he's with ayra vs when he's with mj

Zaid babu you need mubashira so that she can spice up your otherwise boring life

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

I agree that Zaid isn’t completely at odds with his father. He does seem to agree with some of his principles. He was embarrassed when Ayra demanded the 5 Crores and made a big deal about the bedroom. He clearly doesn’t agree with what his father did to Ayra and her family and until this day feels guilty for it. Now that it is after the fact and he is back home and married to the woman of his choice, he has somewhat moved past it with his father. He puts the blame on all of them and not his dad in particular. Still I feel he has personal issues with his dad. He has said things in the past that his father expects him to make sacrifices for the family’s happiness. He also had that statement about how he too exists. It feels like unresolved issues.

Yes, that dialogue of 'I exist too'- was actually very honest response from him that he cannot be emotionally blackmailed. If we see the episode where Kash is back home and asks her dad how is it her fault she's sent home when their family (there Asif even says it's not nice to compare- but if you do compare, their assets are above Jafar 's) accepted the divorced daughter who cannot come down from her high pedestal and make it work with Zaid....it's a very good insight into Asif also...she decides she will go back only if MJ apologises too...and Asif was 100 percent with her. He congratulated her on finding her self worth and rising above Ishq etc. -he's a very good father in that way.

That point when Zaid said he exists too- he was right. He had already been pressurized into marrying Mubashira - he could have waited for anyone compatible to come along the way, but he was the Bali ka bakra who got tied to her... because Asif thought marrying the two empires together was a good business decision....and Kash nicely gave him the opportunity to push Zaid too...he was genuinely fond of and in awe if Mubashira too...so Asif was doing the best possible thing for his children to secure their future. He can never understand the concept of love. That's the point where Zaid will differ with his dad. If Kash fell for someone from another background too, Asif would have discouraged her and manipulated it. It's just an Asif thing. It's out of desperation Zaid had to say that ...he wanted to make it clear he cannot be made to feel guilty in this. He was partly wrong in how he behaved with MJ...and he was genuinely standing up for himself and justifying his actions. That's why I feel there's no permanent dissent between them. It's very situational.

Yes. It was ok to get the deal by blackmail but framing her was not required. She should have thought that it will be known what she did.. But like you said, Zaid cannot really question others bcz he did the same thing. He used MJ's vulnerability & taunted her again and again about divorce then threatened her. But I really doubt that she would have this counter argument when confronted by Zaid. Itna sense kahan makers ke paas. Need to just victimise Ayra na

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

Badar bhai ki direction toh film school mai padhani chahiye.

In E22, when MJ and Zaid are in the car, and Zaid is kvetching about Ayra, MJ hesitantly extends her hand and it seems she put it on top of Zaid's hand to console him & show understanding. But Badar bhai blocked out the hands touching part.

In E23, when MJ touches Zaid's hand as he sleeps, it looks like Badar bhai took that shoot from behind a kambal obscuring part of the view.

I frankly do not understand these directorial choices. They just diluted the impact of those moments.

If I have to identify Mein's issues around direction and shots, I can write a book on it.

True. What is the point of actors doing that hand touching or such scenes for that matter if you don't even show that properly. That scenes would have stronger impact if shown properly. It would have show that they are quite comfortable now or there's little progression. But inko toh kambal ke peeche, dashboard ke peeche, blur karke door se shot chupaana hota hai.

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

I couldn’t agree with you more. It most definitely reduces the impact of a scene. I can’t for the life of me figure why this is done. Meanwhile, the camera lurks longer on the scenes with Ayra and her bhabi. It always starts with her coming in, something’s going on (students present, furniture being fixed), we have to wait until they settle before they start a conversation - honestly it seems like an eternity sometimes. Even earlier scenes, I’m pretty sure I’ve watched Ayra make an entire cup of chai before the meaningful part of the scene actually got started. The important scenes between the leads meanwhile are cut short or shots are obscured. Is it bad direction, editing or both?

bad direction choice I think. Badar has been extremely generous with the Zaid Ayra hand holding in the car scenes - the scene where Zaid is holding Ayra’s hand throughout while driving with the other hand. The other one where she holds her hand to thank him when they decide to work together - another car scene where the hand holding wasn’t cut. Even their hugs and comfort scenes are from good angles and you see Zaid’s expressions during them. They seem complete and not incomplete.

it’s not that Badar cant do it , he can. He’s done it multiple times in the show for the other pair , but with MJ and zaid , it’s like he selectively forgets that touching is a big deal for them lol. Very strange indeed

Originally posted by: chicksoup

She chose it. Zaid wanted to keep her away from this and make a world of their own... she's the one who wanted acceptance and social standing of the family.

What was that dialogue she told Zaid about being born poor is different from something something... implying she'd never understand how he can go from such a rich family to become so poor or something...that's how I understood it at least. The question is, would Ayra have made the same demands on Zaid if he was not this rich.

Imagine he was middle class. Her family is slightly richer. Her brother refuses marriage. She accepts his decision. Zaid marries a widow or divorcee....will Ayra show the same zeal to be united with him? Will she agree to be a second wife to him then? There's no debating there's a little bit of truth in what Asif says about her. Ayra can make it on her own, definitely. But she enjoys Zaid's social status too.

But I wonder, there should be some reason why they chose to have the title track just on MJ & Zaid as eachother's romantic interest. Also for promoting just with the name of Zaid & MJ. Even if it was misleading about them being romantically involved in the show, there should be something behind that, isn't it? I mean if it was just Ayra and Zaid romantically involved which we are seeing & we hardly see Zaid & MJ together already.. So if Zaid & Ayra are going to be the endgame & if they were just using MJ as catalyst or just as a problem b/w these two, y would they promote it as Zaid & MJ's romance story? Bcz we didn't see any proper hate between Zaid & Mubashira either to say that haan MJ tried to create a rift & Zaid married her out of hate..

Originally posted by: Rashi23

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Zaid's energy level when he's with ayra vs when he's with mj

Zaid babu you need mubashira so that she can spice up your otherwise boring life

Btw Amna said the same in today's review I think that MJ brings out that energy in him. Lol! Nobody seems to like Ayra. They were like even if on paper Ayra is the victim, she isn't likable at all. Also her actions..