Bigg Boss 17: Daily Discussion Thread - 26th December,2023 - Page 106

Originally posted by: Kinginthenorth9

Well I’m glad we agree that team Vicky will be praised due to the ladies as they r giving makers the content they want from them when pumped and the other team as a result will be bashed with Ayesha being the biggest target lol

As for your bold replies here:

“I don't know but the way these house-mates put Arun down look so classist to be honest. I was happy that Salman defended Arun this week. Not only Munna but even Vicky has a different tone when fighting with Arun.”

Yeah it’s obvious that there have always been some contestants who the bigger celebs have looked down on be it Arun or Sana (and they might have their own set of faults but doesn’t mean u treat them differently due to your classist mentality lol) and treated them as an easy option to pick which is wrong and the one good thing sallu did in that episode was defend Arun lol


“I liked her somewhere but she is annoying but she was definitely spot on- although - I am not sure because I fast forwarded the episode. Don't have the patience to go through completely.”

Manara ka problem yahi hai ke agar woh sahi bhi ho toh phir bhi woh itni annoying and distasteful bann jaati by getting carried away in the heat of the moment that she loses out on getting any brownie points from most of the audience for calling out correct things 😂

“I think, flipping sides this season is fine and smart in my opinion because none of the groups are worthy enough to stick to. Rinku ki team has been formed mainly for unanimous disliking for Ankita and Vicky ( unke group me reh kar bas Ankita and Vicky k against tumhe compulsorily Jana hi padega) while Ankita and Vicky don't care about bonds and emotions but on numbers. Plus, Ankita can't take anyone going against her in her group, it can become suffocating for the person.”

Yeah most of Rinku’s team was formed to counter Ankita and Vicky but Munna, Rider and Ayesha mainly joined them cuz they have had a fallout with manara and team vicky sided with manara as she got positive feedback on wkw 😂

“Vicky is mad, he really thinks that Abhishek will get manipulated. Bhai wo pehle hafte wala Abhishek nhi raha. He needs to change his game play and be more smarter.”

For all his smarts Vicky ki shuru se bohat barri shortcoming rahi hai ke he doesn’t know when and where to stop kissi ko bhi kuch bhi bol deta hai and pehle chintu ko bhi aise bharkaya tha against abhishek and isha and it didnt work so why would he even expect this time it would work on Abhishek woh bhi against Munna of all people but bechara aadat se majboor hai kabhi nai badal sakta 😂😂

“Sabhi hi hai, no doubt.. isiliye, guilty feel karna hi nhi hai, kisiko bhi support karne k liye. Karo jisko man hai, kya farq padta hai.”

Everyone is problematic this time. Like the entire lot is messed up so no point trying to win the morality contest by supporting the most moral person this time cuz is dafa saare hi kameene so bindaas hoke apne kameene ko support karo 😂🤣

“The contestants this season had potential - be it Vicky, Munna, Aishwarya, but they were too slow to utilise that on time. I really feel, almost every contestant this season was strong in some way ( barring the likes of Navid and Aoora) but sabka sabun bahut slow tha.”

This lot did have a ton of potential but the biggest reason it flopped imo is cuz bb felt it knew better how to make this season successful so from day 1 started intervening in the games of housemates more than ever before as a result this lot abandoned their game strategies and solely rely on bb’s feedback on wkv lol

I hope ab makers ko sukoon hai apne season ko flop karwa ke but their huge ego will never let them admit that they in fact did not know what was best to make their season a hit 😂

As for your replies in red:

“I like the teams so far.”

If you ignore the side leads the main contestants in the groups are Ankita, Vicky, Manara and Isha vs Munawar, Abhishek and Rider (only cuz of his huge fanbase) so yeah potential toh hai but yeah teams waise ek week bhi nai barkarar rehni 😂

“The best example of contestants having potential but couldn't utilise and all look so weak”

Like I said is ka sab se bara blame bb pe jaata hai. Over involvement kar ke over smart bann rahay they aur season ko massively underperform karwa diya ab doosro pe apni frustration nikal rahay hain 😂

“Their rivalry was anyways not strong”

Haan mana ke Arun and Vicky ki rivalry itni strong nai thi but that is exactly what is missing this time. Like koi bhi kabhi bhi ek din rival banjaate hain and agle week waise hi outta nowhere without any proper build up become normal 😂😂

Where are the season long epic rivalries jo end tak khattam nai hui like shilpa vs hina vs vg, asim vs sid, gauhar vs tanisha, gautam vs tanna, ruby vs rahul, pcc vs mandli? 😂

Can't agree more, BB's interference definitely ruined the season. Force karke bhi kaun si rivalry karwa Li, isse better toh jaise chal raha tha chalne dete. At least, organic to hota. It ruined more. Probably, they could have exposed Vicky towards the mid ( it would be more interesting and surprising) , by exposing his game since the start, they made it way toi predictable. Baki ladkiyan to lad hi rahi thi. Munna k game me bhi kafi interfere Kia. Abhishek anyways wo kisi se bhi fight kar hi Raha tha, he was unpredictable from the start.

A very Happy Birthday Vibey. May you get all the happiness, success, a super healthy life ahead. And may all your wishes get fulfilled.

Originally posted by: Kinginthenorth9

Yeah mera bhi yahi funda hai once season over slate is clean time to move on though it does get difficult at times to not be bitter about past biases by bb 😂

Exactly bro, I mean, jo khatam wo khatam. You can appreciate the game play from previous seasons, people grow and change their perspectives probably. Itna kya rona hai.

As for the wonderful expose you have done of Abishek you were spot on and I just got one thing to say to it:

DP killed it.

And as for sm pe povs what do you expect from impressionable teens who idealize kabir singh and radhe from tere naam type characters? 😂

Has always been. 🤣 I have always believed there is a difference between supporting and praising someone and idolizing someone. Even If I said, Oh I liked Vicky's game, but never would want someone like him in my life. He sucks, always did. You need to get the difference.

Don’t let sm affect you too much waha pe koi cheez serious nai lenay ka sab trolling aur bakchodi hi karte hain waha 😂😂

True 💯

And yeah as you said Isha is a bully, very mean and pokes others and a flipper based on who sallu praises on wkw and has badly targeted kz first with manara and sana and this week Ayesha with manara and chinto and aaj abhishek ko bhi unprovoked poke kia and haan biased bhi hai aur captaincy bhi sar pe charh gaeyi hai usse.

Agreed.

All of that is true but despite that Abishek as you mentioned with the entire breakdown you gave as proof is worse than her as a highly toxic, abusive and problematic person even though he might have toned down this week so coming across better (woh bhi as usual heat of the moment mein carry away hoke zyada bol gaya aur platter mein milli hui sympathy ka kachra kar diya lol) 😂

As for Ankita and Vicky I do see your point that as she is more palatable for the general audience she gets more sympathy than someone like Isha but udhar bhi she has her set of detractors who believe she fakes it and Vicky ka waisa intention nai tha which is fine cuz no matter how much proof there is some won’t change their pov about something or someone once their mind is fixed lol

Bang on.

Originally posted by: RockingSunny

I will support munna if he improves his game. He took a stand against mannara right or wrong doesn't matter but there he looked strong. But if he keeps loitering around ayesha and keeps babysitting others then his game will never improve

Yeah true this Ayesha debacle and a lot of other bs of his definitely drags his game down and he has several short comings and has been a disappointment this season but ever since lockup I’ve had a soft corner for him and ek attachment hai and other than ayesha kaand I found him better than other housemates so still by him but yeah sure I obvio would prefer he gets better both game wise and as a person lol

Originally posted by: RockingSunny

Somehow I am not disappointed by ankita because I never had any expectations from her. I generally don't have any expectations from TV actors because I know most of them will disappoint me in bb. But ankita didn't disappoint me infact she is looking better than the lot. However her game would be better if she stops trying to be perfect, stops being insecure and stops her rona dhona. She has her fair share of flaws but I thought she would be negative but till now I didn't find her negative

I still like vicky's gameplay but as a person I can never like him. Same goes for isha. Although isha didn't disappoint me at all because I disliked her from the stage itself. Beech mein I felt bad for her but then she showed her true colors. But suddenly as a player she has become strong, bold and confident which is a good quality of a bb contestant. So although I didnt forget her behaviour with khanzadi but I am liking her game and strong personality

For me khanzadi was a disappointment but still I could tolerate that because I never fully supported her. But munawar disappointed me like hell. I literally called him good hearted contestant, wanted him to win but abhi to iski shakal se nafrat ho gayi hai. Although if munawar can improve his game I can support him for his gameplay

I totally get what and why you feel for Ankita for what reasons cuz i have similar thoughts about though different flaws and i do see negative in him at times lol

Also totally agreed with what you’ve written about Vicky and Isha like Vicky is a terrible person but as a strategist and gamer perspective bohat shaana hai and it’s fun to watch him in that mastermind zone and Isha while having her own fair share of negative traits but confident and bold toh bohat hogai hai and its not sudden its orchestrated by bb pumping her on wkw for continous weeks and all the power he has bestowed on her expecting the same results from her which she has given 😂

Originally posted by: Deviant_Pixel

Vicky doesn’t get half the amount of leeway Abhishek does all over social media even with Ankita being insanely toxic. Not that he should as he clearly has displayed last week.

Yeah I was incensed in the start at people championing Abhishek for what I have no idea . Isha is many things but she doesn’t pretend she’s angel, it does suck she wasn’t called out when she should have been but called out for all the wrong reasons.

He has toned down because he has no other choice and makers clipped his wings. Not many contestants can withstand it. He doesn’t know how to fight Isha without bringing up the word khokla, how he got intimate with her or her past.

Usne bhi kaafi kuch bolaa hai, but behind the back toh Abhishek ne shuru kia and then Chomu 2. This is during a time he claimed to be head over heels about her and was weeping for her. Usne toh nahin kahaa I am in love with him.

Ah, people keep saying how Vicky is given leeway in this forum and especially DDT but I don't see the same. He was praised on Reddit but after that slap incident, he is being dragged rightly there including his fans. How many Abhishek fans on twitter actually call him out for his abusive behaviour like Vicky fans did. Vicky has been tagged as the worst husband since the start by most of us. He is dragged on twitter and Insta since the start. I don't actually get the comparison. People liked his game and sympathised with the harrasment he was getting from the BB but now again he is bashed. He doesn't even have a fan-base like Abhishek has. Pta nhi, logo ka issue kya hai.

Isha never played Victim and that's where she comes out better than Abhishek. Isha over Abhishek anyday.

He was always like this, pehle lado, character assassinate Karo, and then cry cry cry.

Exactly ( last para) 💯

Originally posted by: RockingSunny

This time most of us have favourites just on the basis of gameplay. As far as I remember many people (even me) always said that vicky is good as a bb contestant but people never idealised him as a person. Most of us have accepted that the contestants are horrible. We either support the best of the lot or those who have a good game. But this season is so bad ki jisko bhi support karte hai wo turant disappoint karte hai. That's why though everyone has some fixed people in their dislike list but no one has a fixed favourite list

Exactly 💯

At least we accept that the ones we supported or are supporting are horrible but baki to blindly hi kar rahe support, uske upar pe DDTians are being shaded for disliking and liking contestants.

Originally posted by: Kinginthenorth9

Haan thats true ke Vicky ko bilkul bhi utna leeway nai milta jitna abhishek ko though based on how they have been behaving their wife/ex dono ko leeway nai milna chaye

I feel the reason for that is ke Abhishek fits the criteria of a conventionally good looking lone and angry young man who is troubled but a good heart and emotional andar se (this is all a farce and bs and cr*p obviously but uske fans yahi sochte hain lol) for a certain subset of the bb watching audience while vicky with his sly, backfoot strategical games and his obsession with using the number game to get ahead causes him to not be as liked by that subset of the audience lol

And yes I love how you mentioned that starting mein Isha ki regularly wkw pe dhajjiyan uraate thaiy channel waale aur abhishek ko pump karte thaiy so its only fair ab role reversal ho thora sa cuz hain toh dono hi colors faces at the end of the day toh promote toh dono ko karein ge 😂

And don’t worry in a couple of weeks isha ki phir se bajana shuru honge jaise hi unka us se kaam nikal jaaege so sahi hai abhishek ki bbhi bajti rahe jab tak bajti hai lol

And I’m glad you’ve reminded everyone of the terrible terrible words he has used for her on national tv like koi kasar nai chori to demean her and her character and then he expects phool from her in return? Bloody fool 😂

Can't agree more 💯

Originally posted by: Jayjaya79

Ankita kitni insecure hain, usko gussa iss baat ka nahin ki isha ne mannara ko rakha usko asli ghussa iss baat hain ki isha ne Vicky ko uske pehle rakha! Jhoot mat bol Ankita, dikh jaata hain!

Insecure kyun. If Manku wants to remain on top ofcourse she will try to get confidence of captain so that Isha ranks her at the first position. That's a good quality of a player. It's game show . Her husband is her competitor too. I loved her effort of convincing Isha for her betterment.

Originally posted by: CobraKai1972

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Grace period waale jeete nahin hai cobra ji .