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Originally posted by: zara321

he is shown to be a 'caring' brother even when he brings a gun to his sisters college and threatens everyone.

Yeh kaunse country mein movie based hai😳

RK's character being the son of the lead in Indian crime webshows(Pataal Lok, Aarya, to name a few) who brings a gun to a school😅

Also, why is there always a scene of dadagiri in college. Principal kahaan hai college mein🤦‍♀️

Originally posted by: oh_nakhrewaali

Yeh kaunse country mein movie based hai😳

RK's character being the son of the lead in Indian crime webshows(Pataal Lok, Aarya, to name a few) who brings a gun to a school😅

Also, why is there always a scene of dadagiri in college. Principal kahaan hai college mein🤦‍♀️

There is no principal, no school security and no police in this Animal world, even the teacher in the class just silently stands there while rks character walks in and starts threatening people. And it's shown in a way of him protecting his sister becuase he loves her so much

Now imagine in the real world if a brother hears about his sister being touched while being ragged, should he now go into her school with a gun becuase he loves her so much? Obviously not, but I hope people don't get influenced by stuff like this.

Originally posted by: zara321

There is no principal, no school security and no police in this Animal world, even the teacher in the class just silently stands there while rks character walks in and starts threatening people. And it's shown in a way of him protecting his sister becuase he loves her so much

Now imagine in the real world if a brother hears about his sister being touched while being ragged, should he now go into her school with a gun becuase he loves her so much? Obviously not, but I hope people don't get influenced by stuff like this.

People don't get influenced overtly like this.. Bec we know guns/murder is illegal and has consequences.... So no one is going to go out and murder someone bec of a movie

The influence is more subtle and dangerous... It shows that women are disposable objects that can be objectified, violated and humiliated... It is dangerous bec it is essentially reinforcing what these young men already believe in or see in their daily lives... . It is taking that feeling and hyping it to ultra pro max and validating it so no education makes any difference to their thoughts

How did the conversation steer from blaming women for watching a movie to believing death to a bad character absolves their crimes? If that were true every director would portraying the worst psycho in existence and wash their hands off the character by killing them off without any depth or emotional connect with the story. The point is to portray even an evil character/sociopath/psychopath without elevating their actions to seem like they are moral. Or not using targeted violence against the opposite sex (read: women) repeatedly with no context to the movie just for kicks or for settling scores with critics.

Diwali hain kya? For good to win over evil and we all clap merrily. Death is not a redemption arc. Those wanting to watch a redemption arc should go watch Zuko in ATLB.

Zuko for reference

Originally posted by: ohophelia

How did the conversation steer from blaming women for watching a movie to believing death to a bad character absolves their crimes? If that were true every director would portraying the worst psycho in existence and wash their hands off the character by killing them off without any depth or emotional connect with the story. The point is to portray even an evil character/sociopath/psychopath without elevating their actions to seem like they are moral. Or not using targeted violence against the opposite sex (read: women) repeatedly with no context to the movie just for kicks or for settling scores with critics.

Diwali hain kya? For good to win over evil and we all clap merrily. Death is not a redemption arc. Those wanting to watch a redemption arc should go watch Zuko in ATLB.

Zuko for reference

I didnt say that a negative character dying absolves them from their crimes, but it is a consequence of their actions, the audience feels a sense of justice, and they don't necessarily have to be killed.

Just take the movie the lovely bones as an example, the villain rapes and kills a child, and he hides away her body and the body is never found by her family, the villain doesn't go to jail, but in the end he dies by accidentally slipping and falling to his death, that is the karma, that is the justice.

And redemption doesn't just have to be death, it can be them going to jail, it can be them ending up alone with nobody, it can be many things, but if there is no consequence then it in a way is excusing terrible behaviour. Like how kabir got everything he ever wanted, many felt it should have ended with him alone with nobody, that would have been a satisfying ending

Originally posted by: zara321

I didnt say that a negative character dying absolves them from their crimes, but it is a consequence of their actions, the audience feels a sense of justice, and they don't nessercuerly have to be killed.

Just take the movie the lovely bones as an example, the villain rapes and kills a child, and he hides away her body and the body is never found by her family, the villain doesn't go to jail, but in the end he dies by accidentally slipping and falling to his death, that is the karma, that is the justice.

But why must the audience feel a sense of justice for every movie they watch?

That line of thought is just an offshoot of thinking that the character dying accidently or otherwise is some sort of poetic justice and makes do for the crime committed by them. But is it really? There is no equivalence to him dying to the child being killed in a brutal manner.

Expecting movies to be bastions of justice when you don't even get 1/3 of that in the real world is funny. If justice equivalence is what is to be shown then the more practical way is to incorporate social commentary or do what Joker did. No elevation with stupid BGM, no romantic tracks, no excuses, no pandering. Straight up show the character's motivations, backstory and leave it to the audience to decide.

Originally posted by: ohophelia

But why must the audience feel a sense of justice for every movie they watch?

That line of thought is just an offshoot of thinking that the character dying accidently or otherwise is some sort of poetic justice and makes do for the crime committed by them. But is it really? There is no equivalence to him dying to the child being killed in a brutal manner.

Expecting movies to be bastions of justice when you don't even get 1/3 of that in the real world is funny. If justice equivalence is what is to be shown then the more practical way is to incorporate social commentary or do what Joker did. No elevation with stupid BGM, no romantic tracks, no excuses, no pandering. Straight up show the character's motivations, backstory and leave it to the audience to decide.

Yes every film does not need to show justice, but then there shouldn't be glorification of the terrible behaviour either, which is what is shown in kabir singh and Animal with romantic music playing in the background and the lead is shown as some sort of hero and 'caring' family man.

And as you said if there is no overt justice then atleast there can be social commentary. There wasn't even social commentary in Animal.

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

he had a love making scene in Fanaa and he was kissing white girls in Rang De

Kissing scenes are there in every Hindi film now. Love making scenes too. None of these films you mentioned had sex play main selling point of the narrative.

Originally posted by: TorinoPasta

Kissing scenes are there in every Hindi film now. Love making scenes too. None of these films you mentioned had sex play main selling point of the narrative.

There is so much talk of sex in Animal, it started to get very annoying, for no reason they would start talking about sex or referencing sex, it was unnecessary. There is also talk about genitals, periods, love bites, and the main reason was to get laughs, just eww.

At one point they show rk taking a drink of water, he then kisses rashmika and it look like she drinks the water from his mouth, its disgusting.