How did muslims come to live in israel? - Page 8

Originally posted by: YourCat

While talking about Abraham... I have not gone in details from which descendents Abraham comes from...Do not compare our religious book with yours ... Unless you can give proof of lineage? .. I means someone must have given you details about real human beings that existed on earth....

There is no lineage here. It's just copy paste in bits n pieces from the story n characters from hindu epics and scriptures.

We have countless scriptures written thousands of yesrs ago to rely on. You have only one from 1400 years ago. There cant be any comparision whatsoever.

As for a-brahm() , you can see for yourself there is no explanation required here..

One question keeps popping up in my head now n then..don't know who can answer..

Abraham is the opposite of Brahm or a variation? If it's the opposite then which of the two words is original?

If we go by grammar of prefix or upsarg in Hindi

Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon

One question keeps popping up in my head now n then..don't know who can answer..

Abraham is the opposite of Brahm or a variation? If it's the opposite then which of the two words is original?

If we go by grammar of prefix or upsarg in Hindi

Brahma vs A- brahm

Brahmic vs A-brahmic

Doesnt it make the origins obvious?

Ok..just read few things here in bits n pieces..busy right now so can't go through them in detail.

Just want to say that obviously humans came into existence before human made religions. Nature and other forms of life came into existence before humans. So the biggest leveller is nature..conserve and worship it.

No wonder there r similarities in religious texts. No human made religion is superior than other..What makes one seem better or worse entirely depends on the conduct of its majority of followers

U all may be knowing this..but still

Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon

U all may be knowing this..but still

Another copy paste concept

Whom we call avatars they call prophets

Originally posted by: Funtuss

There is no lineage here. It's just copy paste in bits n pieces from the story n characters from hindu epics and scriptures.

We have countless scriptures written thousands of yesrs ago to rely on. You have only one from 1400 years ago. There cant be any comparision whatsoever.

As for a-brahm() , you can see for yourself there is no explanation required here..

If you had this written in Hindu epics, then why did you ask this question? You should have gotten the answer from your scripture 🤦

Originally posted by: YourCat

If you had this written in Hindu epics, then why did you ask this question? You should have gotten the answer from your scripture 🤦

See, the original point remains that quean is not original. You guys have created a book by appropriating bits n pieces from other religions which is a fact.

Otherwise abrahm you mentioned has nothing to do with islam or mohamad and he was knfact a jew.

Jews dont believ in your prophet n neither do christians. They call mohammad a false prophet and here you are trying to associate with them when they dont believe in either allah or quran or preaching of mohammad whatsoever.

Neither do muslim believe in christianity or else they wouldnt have been so anti west. The ideological, cultural and religious differece is stark opposite.

Besides, on one hand you claim islam and quran to be original and on the other you are stealing abrahm from jews...whom nowadays you are wishing to wipe out from the face of the earth.

Aur waise bhi you are a sub continent muslim who was converted a few centuries ago. Its funny to see you claim lineage to abrahm from a far away land. Your loyatly to him and what he preached over ram or krishna makes you look overenthu ... Isnt it.

How is what some people whom you or your native ancestors had absolutely no connection with in a far away land had written some thousand years ago become YOUR book as opppse to lets say a bhagwad geeta from your native land ???

Shiuldnt you be proud of ram or krishana and claim their legacy over abrahm's?

Identity crisis???

Ah, just stumbled upon this. There was a time when I'd get all worked up, pick a side, and be fuming about how wrong the other side is. Now, as an atheist, it's just amusing to see the arguments from both sides. It's like being a parent watching their kids squabble over whose doll is more realistic.

Originally posted by: Funtuss

See, the original point remains that quean is not original. You guys have created a book by appropriating bits n pieces from other religions which is a fact.

Otherwise abrahm you mentioned has nothing to do with islam or mohamad and he was knfact a jew.

Jews dont believ in your prophet n neither do christians. They call mohammad a false prophet and here you are trying to associate with them when they dont believe in either allah or quran or preaching of mohammad whatsoever.

Neither do muslim believe in christianity or else they wouldnt have been so anti west. The ideological, cultural and religious differece is stark opposite.

Besides, on one hand you claim islam and quran to be original and on the other you are stealing abrahm from jews...whom nowadays you are wishing to wipe out from the face of the earth.

Aur waise bhi you are a sub continent muslim who was converted a few centuries ago. Its funny to see you claim lineage to abrahm from a far away land. Your loyatly to him and what he preached over ram or krishna makes you look overenthu ... Isnt it.

How is what some people whom you or your native ancestors had absolutely no connection with in a far away land had written some thousand years ago become YOUR book as opppse to lets say a bhagwad geeta from your native land ???

Shiuldnt you be proud of ram or krishana and claim their legacy over abrahm's?

Identity crisis???

None except uneducated trolls thinks that.... Even the non Muslims historians W. Montgomery watt, Stanley lane poole, Martin lings, Michael cook and many more do not agree with their view... If you think you are better educated than historians and archeologist then please, do write a book and call all these people with education and research a liar and wrong.... I challenge you...