How did muslims come to live in israel? - Page 6

Originally posted by: NotYourType

If I wanted to engage with you I would’ve gone to your thread. As it is, after your initial two-liner dismissal of my ‘joke’ post, I haven’t the slightest inclination of engaging with you. Zilch. Nope. Nada.

Please take your views elsewhere, where people actually care. The more you bother me the more payback you will get.

Right. You do not want to respond now that I posted with proofs and sources for you to see and learn and actually formulate a decent response? Instead you take the "I don't want to engage" rhetoric because you don't have anything to back up your claims. Next time (if there's ever going to be a next time because you're clearly not well versed with the subject here) if you're going to engage with me in a discussion, atleast learn to differentiate basic terms and know the history and background of what you are arguing for.

It's good that I alteast know you really have no idea what you're even talking about. You haven't one of the facts and figure I have posted. Props for the clarification with this post.

Toodles.

Originally posted by: ohophelia

Right. You do not want to respond now that I posted with proofs and sources for you to see and learn and actually formulate a decent response? Instead you take the "I don't want to engage" rhetoric because you don't have anything to back up your claims. Next time (if there's ever going to be a next time because you're clearly not well versed with the subject here) if you're going to engage with me in a discussion, atleast learn to differentiate basic terms and know the history and background of what you are arguing for.

It's good that I alteast know you really have no idea what you're even talking about. You haven't one of the facts and figure I have posted. Props for the clarification with this post.

Toodles.

How can you clain to know it all when you are only talking from 1948 onwards about the history of israel and calling them illegal pccupiers when the fact rrmains that they have been the original habitants from before the times of jesus christ.

Isnt it a fact that muslims came to conquer the land some centuries ago ?

Now what s wrong if israel is doing what was done to them by these invaders?

Hum hindus mein kahavat hai... jiski laathi usiki bhains. I dont think its wring on israel's part to take revenge for what these islamic terrorists have been doing to them for centuries. These terrorists need to be perished for the better world.

Britannica commissions work from experts and is a trusted source used by universities worldwide including Yale and Oxford. Online edit suggestions are vetted through a rigorous editorial process.

If you believe what was cited is biased or not a verified fact, please feel free to make a suggestion on their site and see if they accept it.

Yes, I saw the partition map before. Was the UN proposal accepted by the Arab states? No. Did the Jewish leadership accept the UN proposal? Yes. Arab states wanted a war, they lost the war, and in the process, Israel ended up with more territory than proposed by UN. That's the risk of starting unwinnable wars. Time and again, they thought they could take Israel but they couldn't. To the victor go the spoils?

The point you originally made ("Israel has always been the aggressor state") was refuted. "War and aggression is different from occupation of land" is an opinion. I can't argue against opinions. Who are we to make up the "rules of engagement" in a war? I believe it's up to the winner; always has been.

Originally posted by: NotYourType

Even I am not versed in this history so have refrained to make an opinion so far. But If it was Jewish land originally, Israel has full rights to it. It is admirable that such a small community has created such a strong country.

As to Palestinians currently claiming it's their land, either they should live peacefully with Israel or take refuge in one of the 57 Muslim countries who are abundantly rich and have enough oil reserves to feed them for generations.

Finally, Hamas attacking Israel was an act of terror. It will be punished for it and if Palestinians support Hamas, their cause is doomed. They should rather side with Israel and try to find a middle route.

Going way back in history as per the Quran, it was stated that God promised Jerusalem to the Jews and Palestine to the Arabs.

I will make a separate post on it and that may explain things better.

Originally posted by: carisma2

Going way back in history as per the Quran, it was stated that God promised Jerusalem to the Jews and Palestine to the Arabs.

I will make a separate post on it and that may explain things better.

Which god promised palestine to arabs?....allah or some god?

Quran n Allah himself are 1400 years old...jewish have been around for atleast more than 3000 year. So why would they believe what allah said to muslims much later and without their consent?

See, Anyone can enter your house you have been living in for decades and decide it is theirs from there on and you are asked to share...would you allow them yo?

It is a fact no one can deny that jewish were the original inhabitants before muslims invaded palestine.

See closer home, pakistanis have stolen 1/3 of india n despite clear cut partition based on religion as per their demands they stayed back... not only that thise who left came back n invaded kashmir and took a major chunk soon after. In the remaining kashmir, muslims drove out hindus to create their own palestine in subcontinent.

Like palestine, did allah also sign away kashmir to muslims exclusively?

Nahi na....?

Phir kyu they are claiming exclusive rights when the original inhabitants were hindus before invaders came. Islam originated in far away land. Muslims pray to foreign god and their loyalties are with their allah only. It is neither with the people nor with the piece of land they live in. Otherwise they wouldnt have kicked out kashmiri hindus.

I am sure god/allah didnt mention anything on kashmir... or did he?

Originally posted by: Funtuss

Which god promised palestine to arabs?....allah or some god?

Quran n Allah himself are 1400 years old...jewish have been around for atleast more than 3000 year. So why would they believe what allah said to muslims much later and without their consent?

See, Anyone can enter your house you have been living in for decades and decide it is theirs from there on and you are asked to share...would you allow them yo?

It is a fact no one can deny that jewish were the original inhabitants before muslims invaded palestine.

See closer home, pakistanis have stolen 1/3 of india n despite clear cut partition based on religion as per their demands they stayed back... not only that thise who left came back n invaded kashmir and took a major chunk soon after. In the remaining kashmir, muslims drove out hindus to create their own palestine in subcontinent.

Like palestine, did allah also sign away kashmir to muslims exclusively?

Nahi na....?

Phir kyu they are claiming exclusive rights when the original inhabitants were hindus before invaders came. Islam originated in far away land. Muslims pray to foreign god and their loyalties are with their allah only. It is neither with the people nor with the piece of land they live in. Otherwise they wouldnt have kicked out kashmiri hindus.

I am sure god/allah didnt mention anything on kashmir... or did he?

When u start with telling me that Allah and Islam started in 1400. I lost interest to read anything you wrote afterwards. First pls research when Islam started. The dates you are giving is from the time of the Last Prophet.. and there were many before him. So go figure.

Do that tell me.. then I'll read the rest of your post and reply.

In terms of building anything there, the Jews were there earlier. Just as one example, look at the Al-Aqsa mosque that some people keep wailing about. It's built on top of the Jewish Temple Mount. The implication should be obvious. They tried to destroy Jewish structures, build their own mosque on top and then claim the whole thing as their own. Not nice.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

In terms of building anything there, the Jews were there earlier. Just as one example, look at the Al-Aqsa mosque that some people keep wailing about. It's built on top of the Jewish Temple Mount. The implication should be obvious. They tried to destroy Jewish structures, build their own mosque on top and then claim the whole thing as their own. Not nice.

Arre Waah !! It was this easy to decide who was first..

Originally posted by: carisma2

How dare you?

I'm not going to entertain any racist competition with you.

You need to learn to respect other peoples religion, even of you do not hold your own faith in it. Otherwise people like you should refrain themselves in any platform of communication. End off.

How is it racist if i say allah isnt older than ram or krishna? Lol

I am sorry i meant no offense. I truly am sorry even if your sentiments are hurt over such small matters. There is too much filth and toxicity being spread by all sides. And if you cant handle it then i request you to keep away just as you have thus far.

And i am saying this to you genuinly coz whatevwr i have seen of you, you are a very gentle and sweet person. And like i said before people like you need to be aware of cerrain agenda driven folks using muslim causes to further their devilish agenda agaisnt a group of people who have nothing to do with either israel or palestine. These are the people you need to call out instead if you are willingly chosing to ignore their shenanigans and still partake in the discussions and debates then dont complain later on if things dont go your way.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

In terms of building anything there, the Jews were there earlier. Just as one example, look at the Al-Aqsa mosque that some people keep wailing about. It's built on top of the Jewish Temple Mount. The implication should be obvious. They tried to destroy Jewish structures, build their own mosque on top and then claim the whole thing as their own. Not nice.

Are you sure evil jews didnt get the idea of building their temple underneath the mosque after how we built ram mandir underneath babri mosque?

I am sure there exist some madressas where they are teaching the correct history