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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: abca19510


This is what Aditi meant by we are not doing dramatic enough scenes. This might be that mass audience attracting element she was talking about smiley39smiley44

If they want to drag the mass audience then do it properly na...bring all the OTT drama and negativity which is shown in every show nowadays. Why to make it a khichdi trying to cater to both elite and mass audience ??They are trying to keep a balance between two set of viewers but failing miserably.
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: john909


It doesn't matter whether you anyone is a regular viewer of this show or not. What happened was a ONS not rape. Please look up the what rape actually means. I know what work place sexual harassment is and their story doesnt qualify for it. He didn't buy katha or was dying to sleep with her. He wasn't even eyeing her like that before the ONS. considering you admitted to not really knowing the full story, I wonder what even made you write all this most likely based on seeing the shorts or reading discussions. I have already said that morally what viaan proposed was wrong but it wasn't rape or work place harrassment. You have an opinion on this without even knowing either characters or their story properly. Point is viaan was wrong for putting that offer on the table when katha came to him and he shouldn't have gone ahead with it (his reasons were pretty misguided) and he has been blamed enough for it. He repented and got punished for it. Katha also.played her part in this by accepting the offer instead of taking a chance and confessing the truth of not being single and needing money for her son. Viaan's reaction when he found out made it so clear that he would have helped her for sure without any strings attached.

Garewals?? Seriously? Same garewals that left her to her own devices for 10 years and then told her to get out when she came asking for financial help for aarav? Their reaction was out of care of katha but there was a lot of guilt too esp Mr garewal. They would have never contacted katha if she didn't come to them asking for help. Also did you even read my post or comprehend it at all? I was and still am clearly pointing out mistakes on both sides so saying I am blaming everything on katha is ludicrous.

Textbook definition of rape mean sex without consent. But in Indian law, sex with the consent of girl on the false promise of marriage is also consider rape.

I don't consider this rape. It is a prostitution. But the offer made by Viaan is called sexual harassment.

If a roadside loafer teases girl and the girl doesn't complain to police, it doesn't mean loafer are not doing harassment.

Whether Katha reject it, ignore it or accept the offer, it doesn't change what Viaan did that too at workplace. Yes Katha is stupid, so does Viaan is harraser.

Viaan doesn't have to threaten the employee or make a proposal for promotion. As a boss, it is automatically assumed a threat. If a boss has more power, he has more responsibility also. Also wonder how people forget what he did after ONS to know the reason of why Katha asked for money. He overloaded Katha with work, unnecessary Dubai trip and asked for night, held hand at airport and reached at her home. Katha wasn't able to complain because if she complain, she would have to reveal her ONS risking her reputation. It is textbook harassment.

If it is not harassment, it is not morally wrong. I don't understand when people say it is morally wrong but doesn't mention what is wrong. She need money, he need sexual partner, what is wrong if she ask for 1 cr and he ask sex in favor?

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: divine_16

If they want to drag the mass audience then do it properly na...bring all the OTT drama and negativity which is shown in every show nowadays. Why to make it a khichdi trying to cater to both elite and mass audience ??They are trying to keep a balance between two set of viewers but failing miserably.

balance karne ke chakkar mein they will neither attract masses nor satisfy the elite resulting in losing 😀 that’s why when they start itself they should decide which audience it is made for or else it will be a disaster if they try to change midway.
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: divine_16

@bold- rapist doesn't give choices...FACT!! A rapist will pounce on his prey!! Viaan clearly told her that night in the hotel that if she is uncomfortable then she can go.But she chose to continue with it.Viaan was absolutely wrong in giving that proposal but wasn't a rapist...that's it!! And one more thing to add...I saw many saying that Katha didn't have choice but to accept Viaan's proposal... here too I disagree!! She did have a choice to take up the bribe ,offered by Anirudh.

It is a crime to sell company design/project. Earthcon would have file a case against Katha if she took the bribe and sold Dubai project design.

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Posted: 2 years ago

I think this discussion is futile since we both so fundamentally differ on the definition of workplace sexual harrassment. She didn't come to him for money, she went to Ehsan for it. Talking about what katha could've or should've done is moot, because Viaan's conduct shouldn't have been dependent on her conduct in any way. Yes, he didn't rape her, but putting the onus of behaving responsibly and in a morally upstanding way in a professional setting falls more on Viaan as the CEO, the top dog and the person having the highest authority in EC. So, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: divine_16

@bold- rapist doesn't give choices...FACT!! A rapist will pounce on his prey!! Viaan clearly told her that night in the hotel that if she is uncomfortable then she can go.But she chose to continue with it.Viaan was absolutely wrong in giving that proposal but wasn't a rapist...that's it!! And one more thing to add...I saw many saying that Katha didn't have choice but to accept Viaan's proposal... here too I disagree!! She did have a choice to take up the bribe ,offered by Anirudh.

I think it's more about a having a feasible choice than something that she couldn't have done. Of course by that logic there were hundreds of options. She also had a choice to give up and let her kid die because she couldn't get the money. People die all the time from cancer because they can't afford the treatment. It's an expensive disease, and Aarav's was an even rarer case. What was the big deal. Aarav would have become another casualty, and she would've have gotten over it eventually. But, she couldn't take that option right? Just like accepting Aniruddh's bribe wasn't possible as that would've entailed legal repercussions. She would have been sent to jail for taking bribe and selling company secrets.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Neutral2

It is a crime to sell company design/project. Earthcon would have file a case against Katha if she took the bribe and sold Dubai project design.

Yup..it's a crime. I would still say it's much better than sleeping with her boss!!
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Eternalallure

I think this discussion is futile since we both so fundamentally differ on the definition of workplace sexual harrassment. She didn't come to him for money, she went to Ehsan for it. Talking about what katha could've or should've done is moot, because Viaan's conduct shouldn't have been dependent on her conduct in any way. Yes, he didn't rape her, but putting the onus of behaving responsibly and in a morally upstanding way in a professional setting falls more on Viaan as the CEO, the top dog and the person having the highest authority in EC. So, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree here.

Moreover, Viaan was a member of sexual harassment committee. smiley37

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