Bharat to be the official name? - Page 10

Originally posted by: Moonks

I will share the links

Yes please

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Yes please

Originally posted by: Moonks

I did check your tags

Yes saw that. They are taking a jibe

I like to be able to call myself Bhāratīya by heritage even though the modern country of India relegates me to second-class citizenship (OCI).

The word Bhārata carries these positive connotations from our heritage.

1. Bharasva putraṃ Duḥṣanta - support your child, Duḥṣanta!

According to a legend in Mahābhārata, young Sarvadamana, who would grow up to be a Cakravartin - mover of troops ruling śaila-rāj'āvataṃsakām catur-antām imām urvīṃ - this four-cornered expansive land ornamented by the mountain-king, came to be known as Bharata because a voice from the sky exhorted his deadbeat dad Duḥṣanta to support him. It is a Bhāratīya value to provide for children even at the cost of one's own health, and to protect our environment because it belongs to future generations.

2. Bharata-bhāva - Bharata's attitude

Another prince named Bharata from Rāmāyaṇa is synonymous with the spirit of fraternity. Even when this Bharata had been handed a political victory, he chose to share his rival's hardship and restore him to power.

3. Bhāratī vṛtti - eloquent expression is the first of the four kinds of expression recognized in the dramatic tradition of Bharata-nāṭya-śāstra, attributed to Bharata Muni. (The others are sāttvatī vṛtti - didactic expression, ārabhaṭī vṛtti - belligerent expression, and kaiśikī vṛtti - delicate expression.) The word bharata was used for any member of the śūdra community who was an actor - for example, Bharata Rohaka who was born in an acting family and became the prime minister of King Pradyota of Ujjayinī, or the bharata-kanyā - dancing-girl named Raṅgapatākā who loved King Śūdraka. Our heritage's high regard for the śūdra tradition of performing arts and its Bhāratī vṛtti is reflected in the name of Goddess Bhāratī - language, also known as Brāhmī, Vāṇī, and Sarasvatī.

Our linguistic diversity and respect for performing arts are defining features of our Bhāratīya identity.

Originally posted by: RainOfDew

@b: well if we can learn their language why not them.. they never wanted to so named our country India acc to their convinience but not anymore.. its Bhaarat nd they will hv to learn speaking it.

Who are they ? Who do you think named India ‘India’ ?

Originally posted by: mnx12

Indiaforums can be Bharatiyakula.(com).

Kula- community.

A better word for "forums" is sabhāḥ or saṃsadaḥ. So, bharatasabhah or bharatasamsadah could be the domain name.

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

Also, while we are at it, words like हफ्ता should be stricken from the Hindi language and officially replaced with सप्त:.

The Saṃskṛta word is सप्ताह = sapt'āha - seven-day period, not सप्तः = saptaḥ which is the word for seven followed by a meaningless visarga.

I have no appreciation for the Hindi language, but it has its own identity apart from Saṃskṛta, and that allows Hindi speakers to use vernacular or borrowed or Urdu words alongside classical Saṃskṛta words.

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

It is the result of the same westernised sound change that led to Vedic Sanskrit सिंध —> हिंद —> Indica in Indo-Bactrian Greek.

The Saṃskṛta word is सिन्धु = sindhu - stream or sea, plural सिन्धवः = sindhavaḥ. Spelling n with an anusvāra is a tendency of vernacular languages.

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

Like Hindi speakers wouldn't say राम षे instead of राम से just because Sanskrit phonology demands the consonant र be followed by ष and ण instead of श/स and न.

Note the म in between र and स, but a counterexample to what you think phonology demands is परस्य, in which पर is directly followed by स.

The Hindi ablative राम से (translatable to रामात् in Saṃskṛta) is as correct as the Saṃskṛta genitive रामस्य.

Please show me even one compound word in which स changes to ष following राम.

I'll show you one example where it doesn't, from Kālidāsa's Raghuvaṃśa:

यच् चकार विवरं शिलाघने

ताडकोरसि स रामसायकः ।

अप्रविष्टविषयस्य रक्षसां

द्वारताम् अगमद् अन्तकस्य तत् ।।

yac cakāra vivaraṃ śilā-ghane

Tāḍak'orasi sa Rāma-sāyakaḥ

apraviṣṭa-viṣayasya Rakṣasāṃ

dvāratām agamad Antakasya tat

That hole which Rāma's arrow made in Tāḍakā's rock-dense chest attained the status of a door for Death in the as-yet-unentered territory of Rakṣases.

(The poetic metre of this verse is discussed in the Metres of Saṃskṛta Poetry topic. This link will work after you use the link in my signature to join the Saṃskṛta Text Discussion private forum.)

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/samskrta-text-discussion/5298936/metres-of-sa-sk-ta-poetry

Bharat is official name as some others already mentioned.

The problem is how much we use it?

We have a habit of mixing English words in our native language. That is how the word India became more prominent than the word Bharat.

If we use proper words in the language we speak, then this problem will be reduced and Bharat will become more prominent.

Cheers..

People should stop using railways diesel/petrol driven vehicles stop using airways and start using horse driven chariots instead since that was what used by the great people who called this land Bharat.

They should stop using all the fruits of modern science and modern medicine and use Vedic science for the betterment of their lives since that's what Bharat is all about.

How about stop using computers and modern communications systems like this since these were all invented by westerners.

People who claim that there's lot of science in Vedas should use all that science and improve the lives of people of this land.

Originally posted by: Message

A lot of so called religious people make God small, petty, and intolerant. Politics has always been a dirty business, but it appears to be getting dirtier every day. That is why politics and religion would not appear to mix very well. Religion is supposed to appeal to our better angels, but that is not the case today. The merging of politics and religion has not been good for the country because it blurs the lines of what is acceptable and what is not.

This isn't related to the topic

Please stay with the topic

Originally posted by: aparnauma

People should stop using railways diesel/petrol driven vehicles stop using airways and start using horse driven chariots instead since that was what used by the great people who called this land Bharat.

They should stop using all the fruits of modern science and modern medicine and use Vedic science for the betterment of their lives since that's what Bharat is all about.

How about stop using computers and modern communications systems like this since these were all invented by westerners.

People who claim that there's lot of science in Vedas should use all that science and improve the lives of people of this land.

This is such a strange argument, I carry the name since the time i was born. Back then I couldn't speak, we didn't have mobiles, so just because I still have that name I shouldn't speak or use mobile??

How is being proud of the ancient name of this country mean forgoing modern advancements?