Paar kuch bhi kaho - Page 7

I feel for Nav

Koi iske bare me sochta hi nahi, itna abuse hota tha iske sath

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Bruh, I am saying that spousal dynamic hence spousal abuse is not the same as shouting on your ex or grabbing his collar.

If she did abuse her ex that still wouldn't fall under a DV case irl. Some other IPC may apply. But accusing your miscarrying wife of murder will definitely fall under the DV act irl.

Comparing what Abhimanyu did to Akshara and what Akshara has done post leap is a false equivalency. Because Akshara was Abhimanyu's wife then and Abhimanyu isn't her husband now lol. The same way other's children are not her own children

I am not justifying abuse lol

Lekin Nav ke sath to domestic violence hota tha na? Uska kya?

Physical harm ki punishment is much more than a perceived mental or emotional abuse.

Kisiko physically abuse karna is not right, ab pati nahi hai matlab ye nahi ki jisko paye marte hai

Edited out portion moral policing

Originally posted by: shrutiraina007

That does play, because the move was stupid. It was a mistake.

I am not downplaying what Akshara went through after that, but it was a mistake nevertheless.

What they did was sacrifice themselves as bait till the Police comes, instead of being smart about it. They could have noted down the vehicle number, followed them from far while keeping the Police updated. But na, trying to do something beyond their capability is what screwed things up.

If protecting those girls became Akshara and Neil's responsibility, so was protecting the kids in Akshara's womb and protecting themselves in the process.

I will not get into a debate about how medically or legally a foetus is not considered a conscientious being till after 20 weeks of pregnancy. I will not debate about how a foetus is not a kid. To each their own. I am not going to moral police anyone about that.

Agreeing to your premise, Akshara was divorced for her "mistake." Don't see how her ex gets to decide for her life choices after retributing her with a divorce for "her mistakes."

What she did after facing the "punishment for her mistakes" is solely her business imho.

Originally posted by: ExpectoPatronu

Lekin Nav ke sath to domestic violence hota tha na? Uska kya?

Physical harm ki punishment is much more than a perceived mental or emotional abuse, Google kar rahe ho to sahi se karo

Kisiko physically abuse karna is not right, ab pati nahi hai matlab ye nahi ki jisko paye marte hai

Google kae liya ji. Jo show mein dikhaya tha woh toh abuse hi tha.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/refusal-to-let-wife-stay-in-same-house-is-domestic-violence-sc/article5399294.ece

Baaki Akshara ke allegedly abuser hone se Abhimayu ganga nahi naha lega

Lol

Originally posted by: shrutiraina007

So exactly what did Akshara and Neil accomplish by "trying" to save the girls? Did they save them eventually?

Nope Police reached on time to save the girls. But due to Akshara and Neil's intervention, Neil died, Akshara miscarry one child and a goon was almost going to stab her when police arrived and saved Akshara.

Basically Akshara and Neil achieved by nothing intervening but lost everything.

Still their intentions were Noble and we cannot deny this fact.

However, even though the aftermath is sort of a parallel the two deaths cannot be compared.

Neil died coz his intention was to keep Akshara safe and help those girls. Whereas, Nav died after drinking too much and losing his balance.

Now comparison of blames:

Abhimanyu didn't blame Akshara of killing Neil. He said her decision led him to die which was a fact. Also, it's common sense that if you go and fight goons or in the situation Akshara and Neil were you will definitely get hurt anything can happen so before doing anything one must think of the consequences. For example- You avoid fights on road coz you know it's not going to be worth the loss.

About Akshara and Fam blaming AbhiM they're blaming him of being a cold blooded murderer. Their claim is that he killed Nav out of jealousy.

Again Nav and AbhiM situation no one can predict something like that can happen. Cliff wasn't that high that's why AbhiM can easily jumped and got Nav in his arms. Drinking with a friend isn't a crime, nor was his intention like this.

Nav is an adult he drank himself and if we are saying Nav isn't responsible then maybe he shouldn't be the caretaker/foster Father of Abhir then. We can't have it both ways. An adult is responsible for his own life especially when drinking.

So obviously Akshara and fam is being more vile towards AbhiM and Birlas than they have ever been to them.

To be honest isn't it a wishful thinking of Akshara to say AbhiM was jealous. What if he doesn't care. It's been months since he last confessed to her and after that he didn't take any step towards her or anything as such to get her. Feels more like Akshara want him to be jealous which he wasn't.

Abhir is his son that's a different story altogether. Abhir choosing Nav is also obvious cause that's how Akshara custom his mind.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Google kae liya ji. Jo show mein dikhaya tha woh toh abuse hi tha.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/refusal-to-let-wife-stay-in-same-house-is-domestic-violence-sc/article5399294.ece

Baaki Akshara ke allegedly abuser hone se Abhimayu ganga nahi naha lega

Lol

Show me dikhaya hai k they blamed Akshara, and he yelled at her and divorced and she left.

Akshara ne khud nahi bola kabhi k mere sath DV hua 🤣

Yeh sab DV mein nahi aata hai. You sharing all these unrelated links will not change the fact.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Bruh, I am saying that spousal dynamic hence spousal abuse is not the same as shouting on your ex or grabbing his collar.

If she did abuse her ex that still wouldn't fall under a DV case irl. Some other IPC may apply. But accusing your miscarrying wife of murder will definitely fall under the DV act irl.

Comparing what Abhimanyu did to Akshara and what Akshara has done post leap is a false equivalency. Because Akshara was Abhimanyu's wife then and Abhimanyu isn't her husband now lol. The same way other's children are not her own children

I am not justifying abuse lol

Basically Ex ko maar sakte hain par Spouse ko nahi.

This is new information for me. Kaash mujhe phele pta hota

Originally posted by: chaipaani

Show me dikhaya hai k they blamed Akshara, and he yelled at her and divorced and she left.

Akshara ne khud nahi bola kabhi k mere sath DV hua 🤣

Yeh sab DV mein nahi aata hai. You sharing all these unrelated links will not change the fact.

Abhimanyu ya Abhinav ne khud bhi kabhi nahi bola ki Akshara ne unhe abuse kiya hai lol.

'Lo ho gaya divorce, jab tak mere saamne rahogi mujhe meri galti ka ehsaas dilate rahogi" was said before Akshara signed anything lol

Originally posted by: Deltablues

I will not get into a debate about how medically or legally a foetus is not considered a conscientious being till after 20 weeks of pregnancy. I will not debate about how a foetus is not a kid. To each their own. I am not going to moral police anyone about that.

Agreeing to your premise, Akshara was divorced for her "mistake." Don't see how her ex gets to decide for her life choices after retributing her with a divorce for "her mistakes."

What she did after facing the "punishment for her mistakes" is solely her business imho.

I never said Akshara was divorced as "Punishment for her mistakes". The divorce papers were signed by Abhi because their relationship hit a low point with the whole situation. He was in grief, devastated, and Akshara kept pushing him instead of giving him space to stabilize things.

Neil was like a kid to him. He had lost his 3 kids that day. His mother was in shambles. His complete family was falling apart. And he wasn't capable enough to handle the trauma well at that time.

Uske liye he has been punished enough. You are right that what Akshara does in her life isn't Abhi's problem but that DOES NOT include Abhir. Abhir was always Abhi's son and stripping away that right wasn't a decision that Akshara can take emotionally or legally.

And the foetus debate, so you are saying that it wasn't a concious being so it was okay to loose them? I mean, seriously? Then with that argument, Akshara's complete "Maa" argument is null and void, although that is not the case.

Originally posted by: chaipaani

Nope Police reached on time to save the girls. But due to Akshara and Neil's intervention, Neil died, Akshara miscarry one child and a goon was almost going to stab her when police arrived and saved Akshara.

Basically Akshara and Neil achieved by nothing intervening but lost everything.

Still their intentions were Noble and we cannot deny this fact.

However, even though the aftermath is sort of a parallel the two deaths cannot be compared.

Neil died coz his intention was to keep Akshara safe and help those girls. Whereas, Nav died after drinking too much and losing his balance.

Now comparison of blames:

Abhimanyu didn't blame Akshara of killing Neil. He said her decision led him to die which was a fact. Also, it's common sense that if you go and fight goons or in the situation Akshara and Neil were you will definitely get hurt anything can happen so before doing anything one must think of the consequences. For example- You avoid fights on road coz you know it's not going to be worth the loss.

About Akshara and Fam blaming AbhiM they're blaming him of being a cold blooded murderer. Their claim is that he killed Nav out of jealousy.

Again Nav and AbhiM situation no one can predict something like that can happen. Cliff wasn't that high that's why AbhiM can easily jumped and got Nav in his arms. Drinking with a friend isn't a crime, nor was his intention like this.

Nav is an adult he drank himself and if we are saying Nav isn't responsible then maybe he shouldn't be the caretaker/foster Father of Abhir then. We can't have it both ways. An adult is responsible for his own life especially when drinking.

So obviously Akshara and fam is being more vile towards AbhiM and Birlas than they have ever been to them.

To be honest isn't it a wishful thinking of Akshara to say AbhiM was jealous. What if he doesn't care. It's been months since he last confessed to her and after that he didn't take any step towards her or anything as such to get her. Feels more like Akshara want him to be jealous which he wasn't.

Abhir is his son that's a different story altogether. Abhir choosing Nav is also obvious cause that's how Akshara custom his mind.

Complete agree.

Though few points, Akshara and Neil's intentions might be Nobel, but that is not enough to save lives. There is a reason why Police is trained to handle these situations, cause anything can go haywire.

And we still don't know whose idea it was to go on that gadde ka top to drink. Although, we know who was trying to be SRK.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Abhimanyu ya Abhinav ne khud bhi kabhi nahi bola ki Akshara ne unhe abuse kiya hai lol.

'Lo ho gaya divorce, jab tak mere saamne rahogi mujhe meri galti ka ehsaas dilate rahogi" was said before Akshara signed anything lol

Exactly he yelled at her, he said that her impulsiveness was the reason that led to the situation they are in. That still doesn't make it a DV case.

Abhimanyu ne toh yeh bhi nahi kha k tumne paternity fraud kra hai par kra toh hai na. Lol

Abhimanyu ne yeh bhi nahi bola k Akshara fake passport banwaye. Par banwaye toh the na lol

Abhimanyu keh nahi rha par clearly we can see muskan pushed him, Akshara holding his collar every now and then. Lol

Made Akshara realised she is better of without them cool works her choice but still isn't DV.

Edited out portion moral policing .