**Dhruv Tara - Samay Sadi Se Pare Episode Discussion Thread #10 ** - Page 67

Originally posted by: Minhasmansi92

Arre yaar sab chal di😭 mai toh sneak peak Dene vali thi 🤔

Originally posted by: BUSH146

I'm Still here bro
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Chal at least tu toh hai 🤗

Originally posted by: aekiel

Another point- not sure if it's incompetence on the part of the writers or intentionally inserted.

The fellow servant said to Tillu that so many issues came in the D-T marriage rituals, yet the King remained firm in continuing it.

But after D-T completed theirs, everything seemed to be magically in place (the pot, the threads) and no one seemed to remember anything before.

So how does this servant remember it?

Maybe she belongs to the chugalkhor club. Mirch masala lagake bolna to inki pehli khasiyat hoti hai. Bina mirch masale ki chugli kaisi. Apna tadka to dalna hi dalna hota hai.🤣

Originally posted by: Minhasmansi92

Chal at least tu toh hai 🤗

Originally posted by: BUSH146

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Pr ab me bhi nikl rhi hu🤣
Chai peene jaa rhi hu , weekend jo hai🤣

Haan chal ja 🤣 mai tab tak apna kam karti hu writing vala.

Short WU for folks who might not have seen the whole epi.

Towards the end of yesterday's episode, it looked like Ravi was kicking the bucket. Today starts differently and he's fine after an injection

Dhruv is upset with Tara, and somebody outside his room in a jaadu-like suit is overhearing him. That person goes to Senapati and gives a chit that tells about D-T having troubles. He asks what the next plan is, and Jaadu-suit gives another chit that even takes Senapati by surprise for a second. He asks if they can do it, and they say yes.

Dhruv wants to postpone his marriage with Tara. Tillu is seen speaking with the servants, and one servant tells Tillu that even if a member of Dhruv's family dies, the King will not postpone the marriage. Dhruv overhears this, and gets more mad.

The Royal family are in discussion- Tara wants to postpone the marriage (citing Navrangvan's c u r s e), but the King disagrees, and says it can be done after marriage too. In their discussions, Dhruv interferes, and he's hopping mad. He says a fair bit to every person there, and Tara, who has probably never seen her family being talked to like this, tells Dhruv not to insult her family.

Dhruv drags Tara away and shows her the eclipse, and says there's an eclipse on their relationship. He then takes her to see Ravi, and asks what if he had done the same with her father (pita ke badle pita). Tara is angry and says she won't allow her father to be hurt. D then says- you got angry by me merely expressing that thought; now think what I'm undergoing after seeing my father like this.

When T says his anger is overruling his thought, D accuses her of being egoistic and classist (says that his family is beneath theirs). He says he's taking his father and leaving for the 21st. Angry Tara tells him to leave if he wants to.

D is packing his bags. The servants come with the gift that they had chosen for each other when the marriage was announced and a letter. Dhruv's gift is the Radha Krishna one, T's gift is a seat and an apology that she couldn't tell his father's truth earlier. Dhruv is stunned.

Precap- same as before, but shows Dhruv actively fighting with the King.

*****Controversial Post ********

I gave the warning as I don’t think my comment is going to appreciated, which is fine but I thought to bring a different perspective. I feel there may be conscious bias involved based on our own experiences and viewpoints and we feel because it’s incomprehensible for us it should be for others too.

To expect that 17th century people will have the same mindset as 21st is comparing apple and oranges. Even in this day and age there are certain parts in India where honour killings, dowry system, and caste violence is prevalent then to expect that 17th century people be progressive is beggars belief. Although, the royal family have surprised me with their somewhat liberal views. What we know so far:

- Dhruv fell for Tara because she did a lot for his mother. Even went to jail, treated her, listened to her taunts almost daily, was called characterless, a thief and what not. At that point all Tara wanted was her brother getting better and even told Dhruv that once you have completed the operation you can go back to your home and to Canada. She never had any intention to be part of his life after surgery. She even left his home and was going to find other doctor had Dhruv not gone in search for her.

- Dhruv actively pursued her and she realised she loves him too. Again, she is not a 21st century independent woman who can tell her dad that no I won’t do it or leave home and do what she wants. Also, all of her bravado in 21st century was in line with her royal bloodline where she would later realise people aren’t getting it and revert back to her normal ways. The fact that she told Samrat that body and mind I am Dhruvs and then hugging Dhruv in front of her dad is height of her rebellion in my opinion.

- When she found out about Ravi she immediately went to tell Dhruv but Samrat told her he will kill Ravi if she said anything. We have seen how angry Dhruv is now I can only imagine how he would have been back then and maybe even gotten Ravi killed so yes even though it wasn’t thought out she did the best she could. She did tell her mom and brother and it was logical.

- Tara has always said and Dhruv knows more than action intent matters. She didn’t tell him Ayesha stole the passport as she believed her intent was to support her husband. Dhruv knew the truth and realised. Similarly, when Dhruv was angry why his mother isn’t listening to him she again said it’s intent. Here there was no intent to dupe him - she wanted to wait until Ravi was found but her brother asked her to trust him and again makes sense why she trusted him because he trusted her.

- She never talked back to her dad because she is from 17th century and I bet even in this era in some conservative household talking back to elders is not allowed, then why would she in 17th? For her her father makes decisions based on laws and laws are never black and white and it fits all and there are no exceptions. She saw how Dhruv brought clarity there and was awed by it as she didn’t know. But to expect she will change her mindset by those anecdotes isn’t right. Dhruv supported Tara because situation demanded it, here she even took an arrow in the neck to prove Dhruvs capability and has had his back when needed. Her love like she said is not loud but she considers love as worship. She has more freedom in 21st century than in 17th.

- Mindset change never happens overnight no matter the century. You look at royal family now where after Princess Diana died everyone told the queen to address the nation and she said no, it’s not the protocol. They called her names, but she upheld the tradition of royal family. Megan markle a commoner couldn’t fit in as she was finding it hard to keep the tradition of never react and never explain. In here a king would never apologise, it goes against everything royal but he still apologised and gave his sword. To then have the expectation that they understand him is not going to work. That’s why a king a born and not made. I never understood why not one royal family member tried to defend themselves when both Megan and Harry were doing interviews after interviews blaming the royals for all their problems. All they royal family said was they are our family and we wish them well. Imagine what laws would have been in 17th? Well Henry VIII had 2 wives killed, divorced two, and one died thankfully, only so he can get a male heir. He even established a new religion because old one didn’t allow second marriage or divorce.

- Dhruv himself told the queen when she informed him about Ravi was that it was not her fault. He asked if my dad would not have been found would you have never told me, we know Tara would have as per the gift. I don’t think they would have hidden that from him. To then think it’s a big conspiracy doesn’t go well with Dhruvs personality. He knows that as soon as they can they did get Ravi out and king even explained himself and said had he known and understood he would have sent Ravi back.

- Samrat admitted to kidnapping Ravi, why would he feel like kidnapping Ravi if it was royal family’s intention to never tell Dhruv about Ravi in the first place? Queen told him that when I was exiled I couldn’t do much but now I want you to find his family for him. Dhruv treated Ravi and at that time he didn’t blame the king who was responsible for the condition but only after Samrat told him about Ravi being dad his outlook changed. If royal family wanted to permanently hide about Ravi’s identity then why even bother getting him out of the prison? Samrat only found out later on so had they kept him in prison no one would have been the wiser. Maybe right now Dhruv is emotional but I hope he thinks this eventually.

- He didn’t believe Tara was a princess until he saw concrete proof. He was supportive no doubt but her family once they found out he was a doctor have treated him like god. Second imprisonment was for loving tara and again from 17th century laws made sense. Mahavir even found a way to overcome the curse and helped him and Tara. Heck even in this day and age USA deports people who have lived and settled here for over 10+ years after one hearing where no one listens to the plaintiffs, as laws are laws and we want rationality in 17th century?

- This level of anger from Dhruv is cathartic in a way for him. He lost his identity, his family, curse, dad all in one go but there Tara has guilt, she is a worrier by nature and yes I can imagine it’s hard to connect with her but she is from 17th century. Imagine a girl whose marriage breaks twice and that too a princess. I bet even today people talk when a girl’s engagement breaks twice? Also she and Dhruv did decide to postpone but I can see why the father is reluctant. Also he is right in a way that they can sort it after marriage too. Dhruv didn’t blame Tara for his predicament when Tara said had she known this would happen she would have never pursued him. So for him to now doubt her love is very much unlike him.

- Dhruv talking about revenge and all is not him. His own brother used to taunt him on an hourly basis and I didn’t see any malice in him. His father was tortured by king so yes getting upset with king made sense but Dhruv believes in forgiveness and we saw that with doctor but him saying those words is not him.

- Him also saying their love is affected is not him either. He fought for love when Tara wanted him gone. He told her repeatedly that together we can overcome anything. Also, him not seeing another person’s viewpoint is not him.

In all this I blame Ravi. He said he considered queen his sister then why not tell his wife what he was doing? He ran off with her in a stormy night and I have yet to see a brother do that. Had he told his wife I am going to drop her off I don’t think sushila would have minded at all.

Dhruv also doesn’t know Ravi is actually his uncle. To deprive him of a fathers love was a choice “His” family made, not Tara. His dad was right there they chose to give him away so that Sushila comes out of her depression. Very noble gesture but not fair for Dhruv. Would he be this upset when he finds out that truth?

The show is DT and I don’t like to malign the leads. That babaji, king, and Samrat are fair game but in my mind if I don’t like the leads I don’t watch the show. Those who has ever loved knows that love is never all roses, issues always arises but it’s how you handle it. Love also just doesn’t go away - other emotions take over at times but the love stays. Before I met my husband I had two serious relationships and those memories will never go. We are all settled but emotions will forever remain. That’s the reality.

Dhruv going to 21st century without Tara would mean his love was good when times were good. Again, he actively pursued her and she was willing to sacrifice herself for his dad. Samrat is smart he picked Dhruvs weakest link but I would hope Dhruv is better than that and realises that it’s circumstances that created this situation. King asked queen who is the man she came with, she couldn’t tell him so from his perspective as a king who doesn’t bring emotion in his life made sense. Dhruv was deprived of dads love ( once by action, and other by his own family’s choice) then tara was deprived of her mothers love. Exile is brutal - I know when Iranian king was exiled and came to USA for his treatment, Iran captured US embassy people for over a year. We all know Carter lost his presidency over it. So yes, exile is not something where they can do what they want and in 17th century I can only imagine.

For me it will always be Dhruv and Tara - it’s testing time for them and would be good to see how they overcome it. If Dhruv is upset over his dad and his grief is justified then here Tara’s dad has died so why are the expectations that she be rational? She loves Dhruv but her family is just as important. I can’t speak for others but even today if god forbid I have to choose between my husband and dad, without blinking I will pick my dad. I know as many are loving the character and maybe the actor, rationalisation may be difficult but I don’t think Dhruv is going anywhere without Tara and I don’t think she will give over this easily either.

They are brought together by god and no curse, no situation, no time, or no event is bigger than god himself. God wanted them together that’s why they are - nothing else. Dhruv said today in his letter that Tara taught him what love meant that’s big coming from him and shows that it’s divine connection. Even today god intervened and I know he will in future too. If Dhruv has indeed killed the king then I think punishment is justified. I don’t understand how a lookalike can come and wear clothes, and talk just like Dhruv but if it’s Dhruv then it’s sad. In any century killing the head of the nation means death. Hinckley tried to assassinate Reagan and only because he was mentally unstable he was sentenced to a mental health facility. Those words he used are unlike him and maybe feels like he is under influence or something.

I would like to see how this all fits in and ends nicely though. I need some happy moments and romantic scenes as all I have seen since confession is tear fest. I really want to see some light moments and then along with Ravi come to 21st century and tackle issues there too such as Dhruv finding out his dad is really not his dad and maybe even truth about Ayesha’s feelings and Jay’s and hers divorce reason out too.

Originally posted by: Chinmayi18

Interesting but then does that mean Ravi’s truth is not out and Tilotima doesn’t exist? I don’t think it’s altered reality but I also don’t think there is a duplicate as in 17th century to find a guy whose mannerisms are of a 21st century doctor would be highly illogical and how come they got similar clothes as well?

I am thinking it’s:

- Either Dhruv is under the influence like when he was made unconscious by Samrat. Maybe given something similar to PCP which can make a person highly aggressive and volatile and they do things they wouldn’t otherwise. It gives them immense strength as well.

- Maybe there is another angle which we don’t know.

To be honest I want and hope Tara and Dhruv work together but I am also mindful her father has died. As stated in my previous post I can’t speak for others but I know god forbid if my dad is harmed I won’t be able to speak. Dhruv when he found out about dad was upset which is fine but the words he used isn’t him at all. He is not a guy who says revenge and eye for an eye. I don’t see him changing even after dad reveal. However, his dad is not even his dad and it was his biological parents choice to give him away to pacify his aunt. He had a dad but he was made to believe his dad ran away when in reality by the time Ravi left he must have known Dhruv is actually his brothers kid and not his. Dhruv must have been what - 3-4?

Originally posted by: vibha28

Interesting but then does that mean Ravi’s truth is not out and Tilotima doesn’t exist? I don’t think it’s altered reality but I also don’t think there is a duplicate as in 17th century to find a guy whose mannerisms are of a 21st century doctor would be highly illogical and how come they got similar clothes as well?

Yeah articles trustworthy nahi hote but theory interesting thi is liye share kiya 😆

I am thinking it’s:

- Either Dhruv is under the influence like when he was made unconscious by Samrat. Maybe given something similar to PCP which can make a person highly aggressive and volatile and they do things they wouldn’t otherwise. It gives them immense strength as well

17th century me aise medicines milte honge I remember samrat ne bola tha prem medicines hote hai jise dekar D ne T ko fasaya hai premjal me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

- Maybe there is another angle which we don’t know

Inke sare angles audience ke liye mad angles bante ja rahe hain ab 😝😝

To be honest I want and hope Tara and Dhruv work together but I am also mindful her father has died. As stated in my previous post I can’t speak for others but I know god forbid if my dad is harmed I won’t be able to speak. Dhruv when he found out about dad was upset which is fine but the words he used isn’t him at all. He is not a guy who says revenge and eye for an eye. I don’t see him changing even after dad reveal. However, his dad is not even his dad and it was his biological parents choice to give him away to pacify his aunt. He had a dad but he was made to believe his dad ran away when in reality by the time Ravi left he must have known Dhruv is actually his brothers kid and not his. Dhruv must have been what - 3-4?

Agar Dhruv ko pata hota Ravi uska papa nahi hai to woh apne chacha ke liye dangle karta simple 🤣
Kal ke epi me Dhruv ka gussa use overpowered kar gaya aur Tara ka family Prem Tara ko dono wrong the 👎

Aur letter read karke dono ne ye realize bhi kiya

D ne letter me likha tha agar mai kabhi bhatak jau to mera sath mat chhodna plz!! Tab Tara ko laga ki use gusse me Dhruv ko jane ke liye nahi bolna chahiye tha

Same T ne letter me Ravi baba ko apni family bola tha plus ye letter T ne bohot pehle likha tha ye janne ke bad Dhruv ko bhi realize hua ki T ne deliberately Ravi baba ka sach nahi hide kiya tha

Isi liye jail me D T ko hug kar raha tha aur gusse me bhi nahi tha

Ab agar initial gusse ke bad Tara thoda soche ki gusse me bolna aur actual me murder karna dono me bohot bada difference hota hai aur somehow D ko trust kar le to DT ke liye scope hai....