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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

I get your frustration Swati 🙃🙃🙃

I didn’t think I needed to be this explicit here. Maybe I did. I needed to point it out in a better way and this is exactly where timeline is creating a havoc I guess.

I wanna say two things. Which probably should have been part of the chapter so it was better understood because maybe there are silent readers who echo exactly your thoughts.

So here’s my explicit explanations of the scenes. I hope they make sense.

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The period where he is letting go is the period where he is dealing with a lot. I genuinely think either I downplayed it or it didn’t come across properly just how much he went through in a short span. He is being asked to be absolutely on his level best when he had a literal panic attack at the mere mention of being a father. On the same day he is expected to come clean to Khushi. I think I wrote it there in detail. He couldn’t. The reports weren’t confirmed. He wanted to tell Khushi immediately. Lavanya episode just put a damper to it because first he wanted to clean up the mess as much as possible and then tell Khushi only when the parents are in Mumbai.

Secondly, he had taken care of the pics (of course now we know he failed) but the guy was under surveillance, just as he told his lawyer. Arnav cleaned up all this mess in 7 days. 10th - 17th December, all while dealing with the dread of the pictures leaks. Why would he then think Khushi could receive the pictures when he had the guy already? And by the way, threatened him with legal action? The guy who was supposedly terrified of Aman?


I know it comes off as selfish as to why he was worried about his reputation and not Khushi? What exactly will he tell Khushi instead of handling the matter Immediately? Whether we want it or not he is a public figure. His reputation does matter.






Why didn’t he think Khushi was a target despite Lavanya’s messages?

I think I explained this too. In the chapter itself. He is wondering if Lavanya is feigning an interest in him so that her baby can have a father and not be illegitimate. So the baby can have a comfortable life.

Another thing. Why would he think Lavanya would even need to target Khushi if he himself had told her of the divorce? The day he received the confirmation of fraud (2nd jan) it has been over 10 days since his separation wish Khushi. For all intents and purposes, his divorce was final. He was never going to see Khushi again. They were already separated

And Lavanya had been aware of it right? That he would talk to her the very next day. Manali wanted a confirmation on divorce the same day (2nd jan) and Arnav tells them something big (divorce) was going on in his life if they remembered?

Why would a wife, who is already out of his life permanently ever be a target for a personal attack from his POV? Even if he was one? What could possibly come off of targeting Khushi?? Even if Lavanya’s intentions became clear. He called it good riddance and moved on.


We know these things. We have seen it unfold. His logic was not incorrect. He is not the one who is aware of the obsession. There is nothing dumb about it.


Of course the moment Manali does bring Khushi in, he fights back. He still gave Manali a chance not because he is a saint but because he is doing what you wanted him to do. He is being level headed. He is asking Manali to drop it because a battle would get ugly and Khushi will be sucked into it nonetheless.

The whole stuff of going digging around Lavanya’s past and slandering everyone’s names around isn’t his style. It would directly affect Khushi too. The moment he becomes aware of it is the moment he stops playing fair. He had no time, but he misused his power in the first place he could. Slashed down the budget. Hit her career where he promised he would.

All this going around and digging mud on people and releasing fake news is way too weird imo. Then he will actively make Khushi a target by declaring a full fledged war. He wasn’t even willing to spy on Khushi’s village to check up on the guy until last minute. He asked Aman if this was possible. Not order him simply. He has never done that.


I think I agreed to a very well written initial comment on this chapter. And the last paragraph is solely dedicated to it. Arnav is shaken with how everything has turned out. He never intended to send lawyers to Khushi. He never even have divorce papers ready. He wanted to talk. He had just come out of the trauma of dealing with the pics. He was already dealing with the trauma of blinding panic at the thought of a child. On top of that the guilt of cheating is omnipresent.


Agin, we are thinking from the perspective of what we know. He was in the present. He doesn’t know that Lavanya is obsessed with him and not the idea of a future where her baby has a father. When he learns the pregnancy truth, that she is after money and attraction both come into his mind. But an already separated wife doesn’t fit in the picture.


Especially for someone like Arnav who prides himself on doing the right thing. Offered support to Lavanya at the cost of his mental health. This kind of man is dealing with the guilt of cheating on his wife.


Also , I think the one thing I had been waiting for and still anyone is yet to comment is about his mental health. Everyone went ‘he needs therapy’ but nobody is able to process the kind of state he was in October? Was I too subtle in implying he was about to nearly fall to his death? He did see a glass crashing and thinking it would be too easy to end it all.


There are few points i would like to add


1> He discussed his divorce with everyone. He did not. Payal saw the lawyer in office and figured it out based on arnav and akash discussion in sept. Akash too reacted and left.I doubt they stayed behind to discuss anything. They just assumed he is going for divorce and that's it. as per prologue they ghosted him after that isnt it. so no he didnt discuss divorce with his friends.

He discussed it with Lama, No he just informed them. they kept pestering him and he kept putting them in their place. that's not discussion. He talked to la but as per lawyer's instructions he always made sure his stand of no involvement is clear. he did not initiate the contact nor gave any promises or extra attention

2> Why he did not go behind LaMa - I get it he didnt called them out on the fake pregnancy and i was irritated by it but i think thats more because he was just relieved.. Oct is already a vulnerable time for him (we don't know why). nov and dec were spent in immense guilt. There was a mention he didn't sleep for a long time. so along with this added stress he was sleep deprived. I am sure he would have consumed alcohol too. He was dealing with too much already. did he want to deal with making a plan to crush Lama at that moment? Plus they had a reputation of taking people to court and destroying people. He just didnt have any energy to invest into it.

3> Why would he think they will target khushi. We know lavanya is Obsessed with him. He doesn't. He must have thought they wanted to trap him, plan failed and thats that.

Edited by Ashviniv - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Can you believe the amount of revelations that khushi is yet to go through?????


MY GOODNESS.


Her husband's mental health, past secret, present dilemma since 2013, rave party, ONS, pregnancy well fake pregnancy, him going to see la when she was in mumbai, la's obsession with her husband, Mala plans, the photos...... i hope this list ends somewhere.

If she goes crazy, i will not blame her.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: VeiledWords

I get your frustration Swati 🙃🙃🙃

I didn’t think I needed to be this explicit here. Maybe I did. I needed to point it out in a better way and this is exactly where timeline is creating a havoc I guess.

I wanna say two things. Which probably should have been part of the chapter so it was better understood because maybe there are silent readers who echo exactly your thoughts.

So here’s my explicit explanations of the scenes. I hope they make sense.

—————————————————-

The period where he is letting go is the period where he is dealing with a lot. I genuinely think either I downplayed it or it didn’t come across properly just how much he went through in a short span. He is being asked to be absolutely on his level best when he had a literal panic attack at the mere mention of being a father. On the same day he is expected to come clean to Khushi. I think I wrote it there in detail. He couldn’t. The reports weren’t confirmed. He wanted to tell Khushi immediately. Lavanya episode just put a damper to it because first he wanted to clean up the mess as much as possible and then tell Khushi only when the parents are in Mumbai.

Secondly, he had taken care of the pics (of course now we know he failed) but the guy was under surveillance, just as he told his lawyer. Arnav cleaned up all this mess in 7 days. 10th - 17th December, all while dealing with the dread of the pictures leaks. Why would he then think Khushi could receive the pictures when he had the guy already? And by the way, threatened him with legal action? The guy who was supposedly terrified of Aman?


I know it comes off as selfish as to why he was worried about his reputation and not Khushi? What exactly will he tell Khushi instead of handling the matter Immediately? Whether we want it or not he is a public figure. His reputation does matter.






Why didn’t he think Khushi was a target despite Lavanya’s messages?

I think I explained this too. In the chapter itself. He is wondering if Lavanya is feigning an interest in him so that her baby can have a father and not be illegitimate. So the baby can have a comfortable life.

Another thing. Why would he think Lavanya would even need to target Khushi if he himself had told her of the divorce? The day he received the confirmation of fraud (2nd jan) it has been over 10 days since his separation wish Khushi. For all intents and purposes, his divorce was final. He was never going to see Khushi again. They were already separated

And Lavanya had been aware of it right? That he would talk to her the very next day. Manali wanted a confirmation on divorce the same day (2nd jan) and Arnav tells them something big (divorce) was going on in his life if they remembered?

Why would a wife, who is already out of his life permanently ever be a target for a personal attack from his POV? Even if he was one? What could possibly come off of targeting Khushi?? Even if Lavanya’s intentions became clear. He called it good riddance and moved on.


We know these things. We have seen it unfold. His logic was not incorrect. He is not the one who is aware of the obsession. There is nothing dumb about it.


Of course the moment Manali does bring Khushi in, he fights back. He still gave Manali a chance not because he is a saint but because he is doing what you wanted him to do. He is being level headed. He is asking Manali to drop it because a battle would get ugly and Khushi will be sucked into it nonetheless.

The whole stuff of going digging around Lavanya’s past and slandering everyone’s names around isn’t his style. It would directly affect Khushi too. The moment he becomes aware of it is the moment he stops playing fair. He had no time, but he misused his power in the first place he could. Slashed down the budget. Hit her career where he promised he would.

All this going around and digging mud on people and releasing fake news is way too weird imo. Then he will actively make Khushi a target by declaring a full fledged war. He wasn’t even willing to spy on Khushi’s village to check up on the guy until last minute. He asked Aman if this was possible. Not order him simply. He has never done that.


I think I agreed to a very well written initial comment on this chapter. And the last paragraph is solely dedicated to it. Arnav is shaken with how everything has turned out. He never intended to send lawyers to Khushi. He never even have divorce papers ready. He wanted to talk. He had just come out of the trauma of dealing with the pics. He was already dealing with the trauma of blinding panic at the thought of a child. On top of that the guilt of cheating is omnipresent.


Agin, we are thinking from the perspective of what we know. He was in the present. He doesn’t know that Lavanya is obsessed with him and not the idea of a future where her baby has a father. When he learns the pregnancy truth, that she is after money and attraction both come into his mind. But an already separated wife doesn’t fit in the picture.


Especially for someone like Arnav who prides himself on doing the right thing. Offered support to Lavanya at the cost of his mental health. This kind of man is dealing with the guilt of cheating on his wife.


Also , I think the one thing I had been waiting for and still anyone is yet to comment is about his mental health. Everyone went ‘he needs therapy’ but nobody is able to process the kind of state he was in October? Was I too subtle in implying he was about to nearly fall to his death? He did see a glass crashing and thinking it would be too easy to end it all.

Hey , I did mention his mental health!!! That he was about to commit suicide just then la saved (thank you ) and then attacked him !!!
I don’t blame you if you missed it though 😀. He was thinking of divorcing his wife of ten years, who he did love enough to let his fear go even if for short period he did try honesty. And if khushi had been selfish enough and conceived he would have been there for her even if it hurt him. I for one love him. He was about to give up the only family he truly ever had, that would have taken his friends and dear ones away too. This was his mental condition when he realised he has landed into a wrong place, I give the man credit he fought even in that condition he asked her to call the driver, he was not able to. He never deserved what happened. He tried to get out of there sooner but couldn’t because he was already drugged. A man knows his limit he knew his , he just didn’t know that someone was so obsessed with him. Men getting raped is alien concept and a man of his stature is even more. The very reason he never considered himself a victim. He always thought he was the culprit.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

Can you believe the amount of revelations that khushi is yet to go through?????


MY GOODNESS.


Her husband's mental health, past secret, present dilemma since 2013, rave party, ONS, pregnancy well fake pregnancy, him going to see la when she was in mumbai, la's obsession with her husband, Mala plans, the photos...... i hope this list ends somewhere.

If she goes crazy, i will not blame her.

Though she needs to know everything soon, but you are right she will go crazy. She might even push Arnav, BL and her sidekick from that Panchgani balcony thinking “Bhaad me jao sab”. 😏
Edited by tashi26 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

Can you believe the amount of revelations that khushi is yet to go through?????


MY GOODNESS.


Her husband's mental health, past secret, present dilemma since 2013, rave party, ONS, pregnancy well fake pregnancy, him going to see la when she was in mumbai, la's obsession with her husband, Mala plans, the photos...... i hope this list ends somewhere.

If she goes crazy, i will not blame her.


I am immensly happy they didnt had 'the Talk' after the anniversary day. Arnav was still under the impression khushi is unhappy because he doesnt want to have children. he was under the impression he got La pregnant..My god what a mess that would have been


its not like it will be pretty this time around but i cannot imagine Khushi thinking even for few minutes that another woman is going to be mother of her husband's child.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Learrntowrite

Okay you NEED to confirm this!


The date details


Lavanya said she was going to get reports on Sunday, 15th November. I randomly checked calenders. And Sunday 15 th November 2015 was in fact a Sunday.

The date of Holi towards march end in 2016 is also in line with the story. The date of karwachauth in 2015 also matches the description. Last day of October. Arnav was in Nepal right?

And so is Diwali 2005 being early November!!!


Did you research all the dates too?? 😮😮😮😮

Guess what I had my leg dislocated after my 2rd year project submission in 26th October 2015 and bedridden for 2 weeks and went to attend the semester exam in 16th Nov in crutches🤣so my exam was in Monday.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Ashviniv


I am immensly happy they didnt had 'the Talk' after the anniversary day. Arnav was still under the impression khushi is unhappy because he doesnt want to have children. he was under the impression he got La pregnant..My god what a mess that would have been


its not like it will be pretty this time around but i cannot imagine Khushi thinking even for few minutes that another woman is going to be mother of her husband's child.

If I read khushi even a little right, the most thing that is going to hurt her that he chose to go through so much alone!!!

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Pujakrishna

Ofcourse i was talking about his mental health only, when everytime i said he needs therapy and help, otherwise why would he even need that in the first place.


What is strange to me is, how come in 10 years he never showed his mental weakness to khushi and how she never know the extent. 10 FREAKING YEARS not enough for him to open up to khushi?


Till the time he kept khushi as his anchor i.e till 2013 he was fine, but the moment he started distancing from her his mental health went down the drain.


i dont think he had issues than the usual pressures and tensions early on. I think the turning point is what happened to Anjali


His phobia of kids and all his issues and self blame started from there. Khushi knows it that he is troubled by those events. Thats why she volunteered to stay in that Oct. something happened in oct between 2006-2009. but she couldn't fathom the depth of his real state of mental health. She even was not able to relate his decision of not having kids to those events so its clear there is something which khushi doesnt know and that is a root cause of his guilt. Lets see what's that secret is

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Posted: 2 years ago

What could that secret be though ladies that he cant share with Khushi


Is it something related to khushi? does khushi inadvertently did something which impacted Anjali/her baby and if known khushi will blame herself? does someone from their family did something?


I dont think he was abused as child.


The timeframe between 2006-2009 is very crutial. And if we note Arpita has not put a single scene or reference between this time period. Last we get is Anjali having Baby and next immediately is on the film set of Kahin door in 2009


even then Arnav was unhappy with khushi going to bhagwanpur. his expressions changed when Aman asks is khushi bhabhi back


After all the investigation we do in all chapters, Arpita leaves next set of clues for us to go on a merry chase

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: tashi26

Also , I think the one thing I had been waiting for and still anyone is yet to comment is about his mental health. Everyone went ‘he needs therapy’ but nobody is able to process the kind of state he was in October? Was I too subtle in implying he was about to nearly fall to his death? He did see a glass crashing and thinking it would be too easy to end it all.


No, it’s clear that the guy is depressed and for god knows how long and the issues have never been addressed.

In fact him indulging in dangerous sports at the same time khushi goes for yearly trip to Bhagwanpur, him having his will at such a young age for the main reason that he is aware he is putting his life at risk. All this shows he is very very troubled.

I don’t think even Khushi is aware of the nature of his trips. She might have understood something that she was trying get his father to Mumbai but not the full extent of it. Also, did not push him much on any topic including the baby one.

I think that’s why everyone says he needs therapy, because nothing short of professional help can take him out of his mental traumas.

I agree with everything other than his trips. People go for these kind of trips even when they are sound. So even khushi knew about the nature of trips she couldn’t have guessed it.

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