Would audience give same leeway to female celebs as they do to males? - Page 7

attacking personally on IDS and twisting the words won't serve the agenda here, sorry 😅

No one EQUATED killing (by accident... not a planned murder) to women cheating in relationships.

what was said that women are no saint either and both gender are Grey, no need to make it a one sided never ending obsessive soap opera.

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Originally posted by: Tanya1991

what was said that women are no saint either and both gender are Grey, no need to make it a one sided never ending obsessive soap opera.

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Kangana wanted to erase my whole Nationality and I wasn’t suppose to be upset

Sounds like leeway

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

Kangana wanted to erase my whole Nationality and I wasn’t suppose to be upset

Sounds like leeway

Maroon, I think you're justified in being upset on Kangana's remarks about Pakistanis. I would be too if I were you and I don't think I am gonna ever defend Kangana offscreen. She's literally a joke offscreen now and people don't take her seriously, she's gotten a lot of flak for her astringent tongue.

What I don't understand and a few us don't understand here is, how is Salman Khan supported as much and what for? If I recount his trend of abusing women, cheating, you'd say that's his personal life so it doesn't matter. If I were to say, that he's killed innocent people in a drunk state, chose to drive that night and got out of it more easy than anyone would have. You'd still say that - okay, he had to go and chakkar marofy in Police stations for that, so that still counts.

But tell me what you think about a Man who's close friends with the Underworld folks, that cause the 1992 blasts that killed many innocent people's lives in Mumbai? That is close friends with the perpetrators, one of whom included Sanjay Dutt who kid the ammunitions and protected the underworld folks till he was caught later. Salman was favored, casted in Chori Chori Chupke Chupke which was funded by Underworld folks too and he was aware of were the funding came from. According to HT times call recording scripts that they had from Ash & his conversation 20 years ago, he'd threatened her life taking the name of these Underworld folks he knows if she didn't perform for one of his buddies from that group.

So Salman is perfectly okay to move along with people who took the lives of many innocent Indians in the blast and have shot and killed Gulshan Kumar, shot Rakesh Roshan. The underworld atleast from evidence of the 1992 blasts - were clearly a threat to Indians and their lives.

So you are concerned against Kangana speaking ill about Pakistanis, but you're okay to support a Man that is friends with and supports the Underworld who wished ill for Indians from way back in 1992? So is it, that as long as someone doesn't mean ill will and malice towards your nationality - you're fine? but Salman could support the folks that *literally* took the lives of Indians in the 1992 blasts, but it doesn't matter to you, because it doesn't concern your nationality? I am not insinuating that this is what you think. I am just curious.

What makes you give Salman as much leeway?

I ain't supporting Kangana in her comments. This isn't about Male Vs Female to me.. It's more about who got away with literal malice on many fronts (whether they inflicted it on people or were hand in glove with people inflicting that on others) Vs verbal malice.

Originally posted by: sanityinfinite

What makes you give Salman as much Leeway?

I ain't supporting Kangana in her comments. This isn't about Male Vs Female to me.. It's more about who got away with literal malice on many fronts (whether they inflicted it on people or were hand in glove with people inflicting that on others) Vs verbal malice.

I don’t think it’s just verbal malice if we go by shekar sumans son’s accusation.

^ an that makes her no different than Salman or Sanjay

An to round this out she still gets leeway just like he does. If degree of leeway is important that’s fine for you but it’s not to me

I said already in an ideal world none of them would get support but in the world we live in they all do.

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

I don’t think it’s just verbal malice if we go by shekar sumans son’s accusation.

^ an that makes her no different than Salman or Sanjay

An to round this out she still gets leeway just like he does. If degree of leeway is important that’s fine. But as the tm asked I showed man/woman both get leeway

I agree that Men and Women both get away with a lot of leeway and which is why I stated that I don't support Kangana on her comments offscreen. But I doubt if you could say the same for Salman, as anything he does seem to be okay or that you wouldn't really call out as wrong. That's leeway for Salman right there.

And the degree of leeway to the degree of malice that Salman & Sanjay have gotten away with i.e Literal Vs Verbal is more concerning. I still haven't gotten answers to a lot of the points I raised above such as the nationality concern, but that's cool.

I am not looking to pick on arguments or have long drawn fights. Was trying to understand things here.

Originally posted by: sanityinfinite

I am not looking to pick on arguments or have long drawn fights. Was trying to understand things here.

Yes TM asked about Leeway and i think I showed both men and women get it

It's a request people that please do not take the bhadaas (suffocation) of your (most probably) personal traumas here by portraying men as total villains, and women as some sheer ablas only, twisting people's posts and equating killing (though one time accident) etc to JUST a woman who cheated, as no one EQUATED something to another...

do not go low personally attacking people, labeling them, name calling them, talking about their ID(what is a fake ID by the way? 🤔 of course if the old one is no more due to some jobless people here who have no work other then reporting members , then one has to make a new ID, but it's neither a fake ID or a mid (multiple Id) so is it a crime to make only one ID at a time? else how come someone will post anything here? is this something to try to shame others for ? 🤔)

anyways... lots of bitterness and resentment people hold inside even for those who have nothing for you but only sincere and best intentions for (once upon a time though, not anymore... sorry... . as after watching how they flip flopped due to them been such over thinkers, overly sensitive and also due to some manipulative ones around them who added fuel to the fire, even the ones like me who genuinely liked them once have to think otherwise )

anyways I would still say

khush raho

abaad raho

think less

do and move more

and try and see more grey in human beings regardless of genders.

coz that's how we all are, in reality, in life, humans, not some card board characters outta some formulaic stupid shallow Bollywood films which usually portrays humans as just black or white and we absorb all of this subconsciously, unknowingly... and our personal traumas flare our imagination even more.

Kindly do not be so so so much definate about anyone as if we are living with them under the same roof or even inside their heads and hearts...

God bless you all.

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Originally posted by: Tanya1991

do not go low personal attacking people, labeling them, name calling them, talking about their ID

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

An her career is intact

Her career is somehow surviving. She had a long hiatus before roadies. Unlike many other male stars mentioned by OP whose careers thrived and barely had breaks. Hardly comparable.

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Her career is somehow surviving. She had a long hiatus before roadies. Unlike many other male stars mentioned by OP whose careers thrived and barely had breaks. Hardly comparable.

I feel it’s comparable.

I was here when her name was mentioned in all this nefarious things. I saw plenty of people giving her leeway