Ye bhi propaganda actor honge - Page 4

I'm back, Natkhat 😊

It's okay...if I get the feeling of uneasiness, I'll tell you 😊

Years ago, I had those discussions with all kind of people coming from different countries and religions. Colleges and especially universities are wonderful places to get to know diversity.

No Muslim ever tried to convince me of his/her belief...the only people that tried to converse me relative to a religion, where Jehova's Witnesses, a catholic cult. However, I got to know a lot of religions (additional to those I practised as a child)...and I lapped up what I could learn about them. I prayed in temples and mosques and churches...and inmidst of nature...to the sun, the moon, the stars, the forces of the Universe, to God, to Mumbadevi, to Ganesha, and to my gardien angels...without any rule and restriction (except regarding clothes and shoes). I got blessed by priests of various religions, got tika, hand on head, given a dupatta...and I was asked to bless others who touched my feet,

When I lived alone in Mumbai for two and a half months, I never had a bad encounter, not even in the night, not with kids, not with men, not with women, not with the police or riksha drivers, not in busses or in the trains.

I'm grateful for everything I could live, experience and learn.

You wrote that you see things as they are without whitewashing them, but I think that depends on where you are and what you see.

Okay, I'll try to not underestimate you, Natkhat 😊 and no, I don't think that you're "proselytising" 😆

It's midnight here, so I send you a good night...and sleep well 😊

Originally posted by: Clochette

I'm back, Natkhat 😊

It's okay...if I get the feeling of uneasiness, I'll tell you 😊

Years ago, I had those discussions with all kind of people coming from different countries and religions. Colleges and especially universities are wonderful places to get to know diversity.

No Muslim ever tried to convince me of his/her belief...the only people that tried to converse me relative to a religion, where Jehova's Witnesses, a catholic cult. However, I got to know a lot of religions (additional to those I practised as a child)...and I lapped up what I could learn about them. I prayed in temples and mosques and churches...and inmidst of nature...to the sun, the moon, the stars, the forces of the Universe, to God, to Mumbadevi, to Ganesha, and to my gardien angels...without any rule and restriction (except regarding clothes and shoes). I got blessed by priests of various religions, got tika, hand on head, given a dupatta...and I was asked to bless others who touched my feet,

When I lived alone in Mumbai for two and a half months, I never had a bad encounter, not even in the night, not with kids, not with men, not with women, not with the police or riksha drivers, not in busses or in the trains.

I'm grateful for everything I could live, experience and learn.

You wrote that you see things as they are without whitewashing them, but I think that depends on where you are and what you see.

Okay, I'll try to not underestimate you, Natkhat 😊 and no, I don't think that you're "proselytising" 😆

It's midnight here, so I send you a good night...and sleep well 😊

Mumbai is rather safe for women. Even at night women can walk alone. I've lived in Mumbai for about a month and a half and I quite liked it compared to new Delhi where u need to be very vigilant.

Anyways I've visited church, gurudwara and even a mosque once, apart from temples obviously. And I've interacted with people from all major religions too. I can totally agree with you when you say no muslim ever tried to convince you of their belief. It doesn't happen like they will meet u and straightaway try to convince u of something.

In my case too it took quite a long time. Initially they would tell little tid bits of good information about their religion. Then they started inviting me to iftar parties. I'm a vegetarian, so i was a bit uneasy, but still i used to go so that they don't feel bad. Then during casual conversations such things would pop up like why u have so many Gods etc. But I was able to explain it to them as I'm quite rooted in my religion.

But them pretending to be Hundus to trap hindu girls into romantic & physical relationship and then subsequent blackmail and conversion is a bitter reality too. I see such cases reported regularly in twitter as well as newspaper. You also may know about the grooming gangs in UK which work in same strategy. I know not all of them are like this but are we ready to take risk of trial and error just to prove a point (that not all of them are like this) or is it better to be aware and take precautions. The onus of getting back the credibility and goodwill of their community lies on them only. But even good people, instead of trying to accept and try to bring about a change, prefer to play victim and cry *slamophobia. In such a case I think it's better for us to take precautions ourselves.

** Long post alert **

Please don't faint looking at such a long post from me 😆

I watched the movie yesterday and it made me very uncomfortable.

If we look at it from a movie experience point of view, it's not a well made movie, it's a low budgeted one and it shows. The plot was all over the place, understandable given the fact they couldn't show everything in 2.5 hours. They could've focused on one story to show the brainwashing done in details to make an impact. The performances were good. The actors got their Malyalam accent well, something mainstream bollywood actors struggle to achieve. The Afghan scenes were well shot.

** Spoilers ahead**

Now coming to the message the movie gives and its impact. I watched it with my female cousin who is in the same country (I downloaded the movie online as it's not playing in theatres here). My cousin was crying uncontrollably by the end credits started rolling. I was too stunned to console her. I couldn't believe what I had seen.

Keep the religious aspects aside for a minute. Are girls that naive? I could believe the story only because I know real stories of families who have lost their daughters, I know that the brainwashing done is to a much more graver level.

I believe the drugs aspect shown in the movie. We all know about the rape drug and I always thought that something else must've been used to sway people to this extent. They showed that in the movie.

My heart just broke looking at the girls' suffering. How can any human being do this to another human?

I suddenly understood why my mother was always so protective about my sister and worried about the company she kept. And also why she always taught me to respect girls and women. We were not allowed to go out with anyone while in school and college unless the friends were introduced to my mother.

I realized the importance of family values, family bond and the support system that comes with it. Children should be raised in an environment where they feel safer with their families than any other outsider.

About the religious aspects, we know love jihad exists and there are many real life stories. The movie not only showed the suffering of women who agreed to convert "for love" but also of those who refused to convert. I always felt majority of educated Hindus downplayed their own religion in order to look cool and secular. We ourselves make fun of our own gods and goddesses and so we don't really mind movies which do the same, rather we make them blockbusters in our own country (PK, for instance). During colonial times, we forced our own people to convert to Christianity due to the treatment meted out to them.

I do not want to comment on the believers - whether one should believe in a faith or not However, now I know what I'll be doing:

1. Not tolerate if anyone makes fun of my country, culture, religion and beliefs including 33 crores of Gods

2. Be protective of women around me, in my family, outside my family.

3. Be aware

Take care all....

Such a long essay by Minion himself 😲🤯

Dude must have been really affected by the movie 🤓

No interest to discuss a religion, so please stop to ask me those questions. 😊

Originally posted by: Clochette

No interest to discuss a religion, so please stop to ask me those questions. 😊

What are you interested in discussing then? Internal matters of India?

Originally posted by: TheMinion

What are you interested in discussing then? Internal matters of India?

The subject of the movie...read Natkhat's conversation with me (if you're genuinely interested).

Actually, want to write a thank you for your review and thoughts in the long post. 😊

Originally posted by: Clochette

The subject of the movie...read Natkhat's conversation with me (if you're genuinely interested).

Actually, want to write a thank you for your review and thoughts in the long post. 😊

😲

My quota for both reading and writing is already over for the month 😆

So, consider your thank you is accepted and please do not write a long post 😳