Sujamal Track!

Watched the whole track again. Not even 1 percent, I felt it was jalal's mistake. Everytime, jodha was self centered, immature & irritating.

Still, they showed jalal as villian & jodha as victim. Remembering benazir track is now satisfying because she deserved it. 😂

Originally posted by: sharmacatty

Watched the whole track again. Not even 1 percent, I felt it was jalal's mistake. Everytime, jodha was self centered, immature & irritating.

Still, they showed jalal as villian & jodha as victim. Remembering benazir track is now satisfying because she deserved it. 😂

I disagree here , no offense .. ]

for me both were at fault .. Jalal as her husband should have trusted her and Jodha ko bata dena chahiye tha ... so both suffered 😆

Baaki why so serious Di ? It's all Ektaaa Mam's style of dragging shows and gaining trp by separating hero heroine 🤣

I also believe that it was Sujamal's mistake. He had no right extracting a promise of silence from Jodha. This is twice now that he has almost ruined Jodha's life- once by helping Sharifuddin attack Amber- which led to Suryabhan's death and now all this misunderstanding with Jalal.

His entering the Harem, disguised as a eunuch was a crime- he knew it was a crime, regardless of his intentions of finding out who was trying to kill Jalal- I think the saying- THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS- fits Sujamal extremely well.
He had no business committing such a crime. Perhaps, contacting Atgah Khan Saheb as he did once before would have been a better alternative but alas for some reason he chose to debase himself and the Pride of Rajputana in such a way.

The other plot hole- a massive one- is that Sujamal never says anything against Sharifuddin in front of Jalal. Not of the broken promise that Sujamal would get Amber if he helped Sharif, not of the Betrayal...nothing.
Had Sujamal come clean about Sharifuddin's deceit and his betrayal- I am sure, Jalal and Sujamal would have had a better relationship- if only for Jodha's sake.

Him- Sujamal- asking Jodha to come and meet him in extremely isolated places in the middle of the night was the height of carelessness.
Jodha at that point in time is a Mughal Begum- a member of a Royal family that values the Pardah system even inside its own castle walls and follows an EXTREMELY Conservative female etiquette.
And Sujamal was WELL-AWARE of this fact and still he asked her to come and meet him- has he no care of Jodha's marital life? No care of What Jalal could have done had he loved Jodha any less?

IN those times, such an act was worthy of getting you buried alive-and still Jalal gave Jodha the benefit of the doubt. He trusted her. Gave her time to come clean and she did neither-- she took her promise to her brother more seriously than her vows to her husband.
For once, I can forgive Jodha- she is a Rajputani and holds her promises above all else but how was it that once Jalal finally got angry at her and questioned her precious character, she was suddenly willing to break all those promises and come clean??

Jodha acted carelessly, Jodha acted not like a Mughal Begum...worse she did not even act like a Respectable Rajputani Princess. Jalal...in Benazir track was wonderful- he did the best he could for if he had not and had he been even a little attracted by Benazir, he would have died for a kiss alone from the vishkanya was deadly.
Yes, he could have been more trusting of Jodha but to be fair to Jalal- his Begum was accusing someone of being a Mythical villain and he just thought that she was jealous.

Originally posted by: lkdaswani

I also believe that it was Sujamal's mistake. He had no right extracting a promise of silence from Jodha. This is twice now that he has almost ruined Jodha's life- once by helping Sharifuddin attack Amber- which led to Suryabhan's death and now all this misunderstanding with Jalal.

His entering the Harem, disguised as a eunuch was a crime- he knew it was a crime, regardless of his intentions of finding out who was trying to kill Jalal- I think the saying- THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS- fits Sujamal extremely well.
He had no business committing such a crime. Perhaps, contacting Atgah Khan Saheb as he did once before would have been a better alternative but alas for some reason he chose to debase himself and the Pride of Rajputana in such a way.

The other plot hole- a massive one- is that Sujamal never says anything against Sharifuddin in front of Jalal. Not of the broken promise that Sujamal would get Amber if he helped Sharif, not of the Betrayal...nothing.
Had Sujamal come clean about Sharifuddin's deceit and his betrayal- I am sure, Jalal and Sujamal would have had a better relationship- if only for Jodha's sake.

Him- Sujamal- asking Jodha to come and meet him in extremely isolated places in the middle of the night was the height of carelessness.
Jodha at that point in time is a Mughal Begum- a member of a Royal family that values the Pardah system even inside its own castle walls and follows an EXTREMELY Conservative female etiquette.
And Sujamal was WELL-AWARE of this fact and still he asked her to come and meet him- has he no care of Jodha's marital life? No care of What Jalal could have done had he loved Jodha any less?

IN those times, such an act was worthy of getting you buried alive-and still Jalal gave Jodha the benefit of the doubt. He trusted her. Gave her time to come clean and she did neither-- she took her promise to her brother more seriously than her vows to her husband.
For once, I can forgive Jodha- she is a Rajputani and holds her promises above all else but how was it that once Jalal finally got angry at her and questioned her precious character, she was suddenly willing to break all those promises and come clean??

Jodha acted carelessly, Jodha acted not like a Mughal Begum...worse she did not even act like a Respectable Rajputani Princess. Jalal...in Benazir track was wonderful- he did the best he could for if he had not and had he been even a little attracted by Benazir, he would have died for a kiss alone from the vishkanya was deadly.
Yes, he could have been more trusting of Jodha but to be fair to Jalal- his Begum was accusing someone of being a Mythical villain and he just thought that she was jealous.

Very well said...👏

Originally posted by: awesomeava

I disagree here , no offense .. ]

for me both were at fault .. Jalal as her husband should have trusted her and Jodha ko bata dena chahiye tha ... so both suffered 😆

Baaki why so serious Di ? It's all Ektaaa Mam's style of dragging shows and gaining trp by separating hero heroine 🤣

I still remember we all were praising RT's performance in that episode where he confronted her. I personally would have reacted much earlier if I was at his place. She lied so many times. He kept his patience. Is it relevant, to keep one promise you must say multiple lies? It was absolutely rubbish.

Also, jalal should have asked her about it directly that yes, he has seen her with someone. Why she's hiding it?

Even if she was hiding it for her brother then before making any decision, he did ask jodha about it and she did say that he should punish him. Both ways, she was at fault.

And what was she thinking exactly? That from now on, only she will save jalal and other people are just there to do 'adaab' to them😆

People make mistakes. It was acceptable but the way they showed jalal chasing her, asking for forgiveness yet she denied to come with him was so irritating. The only thing I like about it is when jalal talked to her as 'jalal' and told her that now it's her arrogance so he would rather take care of his other responsibilities.

This post was for ekta only. 😆 because she always fail to have a balance. She has to put one person down so that the other character can shine through it. I don't like it, at all.

Originally posted by: lkdaswani

I also believe that it was Sujamal's mistake. He had no right extracting a promise of silence from Jodha. This is twice now that he has almost ruined Jodha's life- once by helping Sharifuddin attack Amber- which led to Suryabhan's death and now all this misunderstanding with Jalal.

His entering the Harem, disguised as a eunuch was a crime- he knew it was a crime, regardless of his intentions of finding out who was trying to kill Jalal- I think the saying- THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS- fits Sujamal extremely well.
He had no business committing such a crime. Perhaps, contacting Atgah Khan Saheb as he did once before would have been a better alternative but alas for some reason he chose to debase himself and the Pride of Rajputana in such a way.

The other plot hole- a massive one- is that Sujamal never says anything against Sharifuddin in front of Jalal. Not of the broken promise that Sujamal would get Amber if he helped Sharif, not of the Betrayal...nothing.
Had Sujamal come clean about Sharifuddin's deceit and his betrayal- I am sure, Jalal and Sujamal would have had a better relationship- if only for Jodha's sake.

Him- Sujamal- asking Jodha to come and meet him in extremely isolated places in the middle of the night was the height of carelessness.
Jodha at that point in time is a Mughal Begum- a member of a Royal family that values the Pardah system even inside its own castle walls and follows an EXTREMELY Conservative female etiquette.
And Sujamal was WELL-AWARE of this fact and still he asked her to come and meet him- has he no care of Jodha's marital life? No care of What Jalal could have done had he loved Jodha any less?

IN those times, such an act was worthy of getting you buried alive-and still Jalal gave Jodha the benefit of the doubt. He trusted her. Gave her time to come clean and she did neither-- she took her promise to her brother more seriously than her vows to her husband.
For once, I can forgive Jodha- she is a Rajputani and holds her promises above all else but how was it that once Jalal finally got angry at her and questioned her precious character, she was suddenly willing to break all those promises and come clean??

Jodha acted carelessly, Jodha acted not like a Mughal Begum...worse she did not even act like a Respectable Rajputani Princess. Jalal...in Benazir track was wonderful- he did the best he could for if he had not and had he been even a little attracted by Benazir, he would have died for a kiss alone from the vishkanya was deadly.
Yes, he could have been more trusting of Jodha but to be fair to Jalal- his Begum was accusing someone of being a Mythical villain and he just thought that she was jealous.

Absolutely Agree with you! The main point is he couldn't even find that person who was involved in conspiracy. So basically, they showed him dumb as he was always there to take care of bakshi bano and nothing else. Didn't even try to talk to jodha, for once and only at night, he thought to find that person when everybody sleeps? 😆

He didn't even understand shareef's intentions towards jodha even after knowing that he had her portrait.

No point of whole track. Just to create a misunderstanding, they dragged it unnecessarily.

During benazir track, jalal even tried to make sure about benazir on the day of his wedding. So, I really didn't feel that he was at fault yet they made her victim as well as heroine, there too.

I personally LOVED Benazir's track- It is my favourite out of all tracks 😍😛.
I remember this very minute detail in one of the episodes where Benazir comes to Jalal's chambers to seduce him and hands him a goblet of Sherbet while shamelessly touching his hand- Jalal calmly tells her that he is the Shahenshah and that there are several rules one must follow in order to meet him- that she is NOT allowed to just barge into his chambers whenever she wants. (Very clearly indicating that he did not wish for her 'company')

What happens next is brilliant- Jalal watches her leave and instead of drinking that sherbet he spills it over the hand that Benazir had touched- washing it off of her touch. His aversion to touch is something that has been shown very subtly throughout the show but in this scene, it stood out brilliantly and perfectly.

((UFFFF, Rajat killed me in that scene. ❤️❤️)

Originally posted by: lkdaswani

I personally LOVED Benazir's track- It is my favourite out of all tracks 😍😛.
I remember this very minute detail in one of the episodes where Benazir comes to Jalal's chambers to seduce him and hands him a goblet of Sherbet which shamelessly touching his hand- Jalal calmly tells her that he is the Shahenshah and that there are several rules one must follow in order to meet him- that she is NOT allowed to just barge into his chambers. (Very clearly asking her to leave.)

What happens next is brilliant- Jalal watches her leave and instead of drinking that sherbet he spills it over the hand that Benazir had touched- watching it off of her touch. His aversion to touch is something that has been shown very subtly throughout the show but in this scene, it stood out brilliantly.

((UFFFF, Rajat killed me in that scene. ❤️❤️)

Yes, same. I love this track and that scene is❤️ Yet it was his way to make her accept that she's jealous and he was not wrong. She wasn't willing to offer but expecting to take more & more.

Jodha actually looked stupid in few places, specially when she stood by herself and come to sit with him when he was so angry? Like, he could sit with salima too? He decided not to touch salima but she was one of his khaas begums so how could she think he'll choose her over salima when he is so furious.

That's why I feel ekta do everything in extreme😆 Later, I liked jodha when she had a control over her emotions but in the beginning of the track, she did come up as someone who's jealous and hurt unlike Rukaiya who knew how to hide her insecurities in front of others. 🤣

Originally posted by: lkdaswani

I personally LOVED Benazir's track- It is my favourite out of all tracks 😍😛.
I remember this very minute detail in one of the episodes where Benazir comes to Jalal's chambers to seduce him and hands him a goblet of Sherbet while shamelessly touching his hand- Jalal calmly tells her that he is the Shahenshah and that there are several rules one must follow in order to meet him- that she is NOT allowed to just barge into his chambers whenever she wants. (Very clearly indicating that he did not wish for her 'company')

What happens next is brilliant- Jalal watches her leave and instead of drinking that sherbet he spills it over the hand that Benazir had touched- washing it off of her touch. His aversion to touch is something that has been shown very subtly throughout the show but in this scene, it stood out brilliantly and perfectly.

((UFFFF, Rajat killed me in that scene. ❤️❤️)

That scene, how brilliantly you have penned it then rajat's jalal ...that shehanshahi ego was so on point..., though in show anyone & everyone was barging in his khwabgah anytime they want....😆

I know right! I also hate that Jalal has been shown- in some places- as someone who is heavily influenced by his emotions while taking Decisions. Do you guys remember the scene where there is this Hindu Family that refuses to change their religion? He sentences the mother and father to prison until their Son asks,
"Mere liye kya aadesh hai aapka?"

Suddenly Jalal is reminded of his own past and he forgives the whole family.

Similarly, during the Sujamal track?- there is this couple that comes for justice and the woman is said to be in love with someone who is not her husband and Jalal sees himself and Jodha in place of the couple.
('Badzaaat!'- He shouts in the Diwan-e-Aam, not being able to help but see his own relationship with Jodha playing out so clearly in front of him)

I understand that Akbar is human but there was A charm in his coldness. In the Jallad-e-Shahenshah reputation of his...Jalal is said to not have a Heart and yet I felt in many places, he took decisions from his Heart alone and that is not a good Characteristic in a King.

Also, maybe it's just me...but Jodha cries a LOT. Like a Lot. Even the Marium Makani in the show has a dialogue in which she fondly says,
"Baat baat par tumhare yeh aansu hume pasand nahi hai."
Jodha cries...a ridiculous amount.

I also agree with Shamacatty, I hate the part of the show where Jodha was running about all teary-eyed and evasive while Jalal was trying to apologise to her after the Sujamal Misunderstanding- bet if Jalal ever did that he would be called arrogant and cruel.

Hell, maturity is when Someone apologises and then you answer clearly- whether you accept their apology or not. That's queenly.
And then there is Ekta's Jodha...
The only time when I genuinely like Ekta's Jodha is during the trip to Salim Chishti's dargah with Jalal, after Benazir track.
"Ae toh tanne seth ji bolein, mai tanne ke bolu?"

I love her playful charm and her generosity in those episodes.