**Dhruv Tara - Samay Sadi Se Pare Episode Discussion Thread #1 ** - Page 100

Originally posted by: aekiel

I have very low expectations from ITV writers, so I'm not expecting these guys to stick to logic and/or have any consistency in the rules regarding time travel.

Unfortunate that the bar is set so low for daily soaps, but it's the way it is.

The time travel premise is fascinating (and mysterious), which is the primary reason I started watching the show

Still think the ultimate surgery for Mahavir has to take place in the 21st century- Dhruv's experience without modern technology is pretty much useless in the 17th century.

I have this little theory that returning to the past requires one to take someone from the present with them (which is why Tara's mother took Dhruv's father along)

Yes, the time travel concept also attracted me, but the idea of star crossed lovers being from two different eras was what actually made me watch this show in the first place. I expected time travel to be more of a plot device, and I thought writers won't make it very confusing since its not primarily a sci-fi show.

Dhruv will suggest Tara to bring Mahavir in present day after he believes her that she's indeed from the 17th century.

@red, its possible. But I hope not. It would give Sushila a valid reason to again go against Tara.

Originally posted by: Chinmayi18

Sahi guess kiya woh actual me 17th century se aaya hai 😆

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxl_h1hNnOQT_XY6016qzycav8VWWuR94o

Where are they going ? Looks like airport

Are they flying to Agra again to shoot?

Originally posted by: Devakshilover

Where are they going ? Looks like airport

Are they flying to Agra again to shoot?

Maybe ye old post / story ho

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

Time travel on this show is going to be very messy and confusing in the future episodes. So the kingdom of Vallabhgarh went extinct and nobody remembers it except a few people. Tara ends up getting married to Senapati and Mahavir likely dies. That's the destiny of Tara and Vallabhgarh.

I was thinking this show would follow time travel rules of Prisoner Of Azkaban. That you can't change the past and time travel is a never ending loop. But now I believe Dhruv and Tara are going to change the past by going back in time. This is more confusing because usually in such stories, a person from future goes back in past and changes it. Here Tara travelled from past to future.

So did she create an alternate timeline? Would this show have the concept of alternate timelines like shown in Endgame? Writers ne kaun se Hollywood movie ke time travel concept ko copy kia ya sabki khichdi banai hain?

Also if Dhruv and Tara create a new future where Tara doesn't marry Senapati, Mahavir doesn't die and Vallabgarh doesn't become a lost kingdom, then would Dhruv and his family remember anything about Tara in this new reality? I don't trust ITV writers. They're going to mess this up because the storyline looks very complicated.

Errm no... Past did change in Harry Potter. Buckbeak died initially. That's why Dumbledore insisted on 3 hour time travel so that they could save buckbeak too. Whenever one time travels, it's bound to alter past present and future. The thing is now that a whole team of historians have found the ballabgarh ruins, if Tara manages to save her bhaiji, how will it effect the present ruins. Will the ruins suddenly disappear, and be replaced by something else? I think the makers intend to repair the past in such a way that Ballabgarh will not fade from people's memory and it will grow to be what it is in reality today - an industrial town. Because the Geographic location of the serial's Ballabgarh actually matches the location of real Ballabhgarh of present.

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

Yes, the time travel concept also attracted me, but the idea of star crossed lovers being from two different eras was what actually made me watch this show in the first place. I expected time travel to be more of a plot device, and I thought writers won't make it very confusing since its not primarily a sci-fi show.

Dhruv will suggest Tara to bring Mahavir in present day after he believes her that she's indeed from the 17th century.

@red, its possible. But I hope not. It would give Sushila a valid reason to again go against Tara.

I think you guys missed the episode where Tara's mom explains why Mahavir can't go to 21st century for treatment. It's because he cannot withstand the atmospheric pressure of the time machine in his present tumorous state. So Dhruv has to treat him in 17th century only.

Originally posted by: FantasyFan_8

Errm no... Past did change in Harry Potter. Buckbeak died initially. That's why Dumbledore insisted on 3 hour time travel so that they could save buckbeak too. Whenever one time travels, it's bound to alter past present and future. The thing is now that a whole team of historians have found the ballabgarh ruins, if Tara manages to save her bhaiji, how will it effect the present ruins. Will the ruins suddenly disappear, and be replaced by something else? I think the makers intend to repair the past in such a way that Ballabgarh will not fade from people's memory and it will grow to be what it is in reality today - an industrial town. Because the Geographic location of the serial's Ballabgarh actually matches the location of real Ballabhgarh of present.

My HP memories are a bit fuzzy, but I don't think Buckbeak died. They heard McNair swing the axe but nothing else.

It's a weird kind of time loop in HP- the figure Harry originally saw casting the Patronus (which he thought was his father) was actually himself. In the present, the "future selves" had already done the job, and the book shows it from the future selves' perspective the second time around, but both realities are the same.

Originally posted by: FantasyFan_8

Errm no... Past did change in Harry Potter. Buckbeak died initially. That's why Dumbledore insisted on 3 hour time travel so that they could save buckbeak too. Whenever one time travels, it's bound to alter past present and future. The thing is now that a whole team of historians have found the ballabgarh ruins, if Tara manages to save her bhaiji, how will it effect the present ruins. Will the ruins suddenly disappear, and be replaced by something else? I think the makers intend to repair the past in such a way that Ballabgarh will not fade from people's memory and it will grow to be what it is in reality today - an industrial town. Because the Geographic location of the serial's Ballabgarh actually matches the location of real Ballabhgarh of present.

No. You can't change the past in Harry Potter (ignoring Cursed Child here). The trio only saw the executioner (Macnair) swinging the axe in air from a distance, and assumed Buckbeak died. But he actually hit the pumpkin patch. Later on Hermione and Harry go back in time and rescued Buckbeak, but that had already happened. It was a time loop.

Time turner can't change the past. Hermione used it whole year in the third book whenever she had to attend classes. She didn't change the past whenever she used it. If it could change the past, Harry could've just prevented his parents or Sirius from dying, and many other people could be saved.

Again not counting Cursed Child which shits on all the time travel rules established. Dhruv Tara would be following time travel rules of Cursed Child. They will change the past and create a new reality where Vallabhgarh doesn't become a forgotten kingdom. Kind of also confirms DT not ending up together.😭 Tara now for sure won't abandon her kingdom to live with Dhruv in 21st century. She would want to stay in her time to work for the progress of Vallabhgarh and change the future she saw.

Originally posted by: FantasyFan_8

I think you guys missed the episode where Tara's mom explains why Mahavir can't go to 21st century for treatment. It's because he cannot withstand the atmospheric pressure of the time machine in his present tumorous state. So Dhruv has to treat him in 17th century only.

Yeah you're right. I saw the episode but didn't put much thought to it. Then its going to be a real struggle to treat Mahavir in 17th century, without all the modern equipment. Writers ignored the fact that Tara would have breathing issues in 21st century because her lungs are not used to the polluted air. So I thought they will also ignore Mahavir's condition. But since it has been specifically addressed in the show that Mahavir can't time travel, Dhruv would have to treat him in 17th century only.

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

No. You can't change the past in Harry Potter (ignoring Cursed Child here). The trio only saw the executioner (Macnair) swinging the axe in air from a distance, and assumed Buckbeak died. But he actually hit the pumpkin patch. Later on Hermione and Harry go back in time and rescued Buckbeak, but that had already happened. It was a time loop.

Time turner can't change the past. Hermione used it whole year in the third book whenever she had to attend classes. She didn't change the past whenever she used it. If it could change the past, Harry could've just prevented his parents or Sirius from dying, and many other people could be saved.

Again not counting Cursed Child which shits on all the time travel rules established. Dhruv Tara would be following time travel rules of Cursed Child. They will change the past and create a new reality where Vallabhgarh doesn't become a forgotten kingdom. Kind of also confirms DT not ending up together.😭 Tara now for sure won't abandon her kingdom to live with Dhruv in 21st century. She would want to stay in her time to work for the progress of Vallabhgarh and change the future she saw.

No i still think DT will end up together. Once Mahavir is cured and Senapati is exposed, Mahavir and his father can work towards progressing the kingdom with inputs from future. Mahavir himself is also quite progressive. Only Maharaj gets swayed by Senapati.