TRP this week 2.3 - Page 4

As far as online trps go, there's NO way for them to be calculated if the show/channels don't put them out! [I doubt the online trp numbers & how they're calculated very much. As far as I know there's no official data release from the shows/channels themselves. Does anyone even know the online trp sources?]

The way we track conversions -- in this case the metrics would be: 1) how many people clicked on the episode 2) how many watched it through 3) what touch point most people dropped out 4) what segments were watched most & over all conversions for complete trends decide trps (some major metrics among others). The data in this case -- at least for online tracking is pretty complete & i'm assuming if the trends between ott & tv audiences match, that is the pickup rate/interest rate/conversions match ott metrics can be used to gauge itv audience reactions as well. At this point the show would know if the last 3 months avg -- abhinav focused/non-abhinav focused have fared better or worse than the quarter falling between leap 1 and leap 2.

Also, people with sources on the set [twitter birdies where y'all get most of your spoilers or hints] have pretty much confessed that they tried showing a lot of abhira centric tracks which DID NOT work & so the showmakers themselves decided to go with SP's suggestion of bringing in another leap. We need not bother about whether it's working for them or not -- they've been running this show for 14 years now and there are entire TEAMS working on trp metrics. If abhinav stays & keeps getting SS we'll know why. If he's booted we'll know why. Let's not assume any of us know better than people who actually do this for a living.

Originally posted by: Silveraliax

Average it out.

And 2.3 and 2.1 mein kaunsa farak hain? Stil Top 5 show before even with no story. And before it used to top online trps too.

Now all they top is couple poll for Abhira which I don't know how long it will last.

Currently, there is story so 2.3 trp is not good enough if I'm judging from birds eye view. See when a female lead suffers and then comes back with a bang then trps shoot up and this has been the case for a lot of classic shows but this time female lead has not come back with a bang unfortunately.

I have already done from Oct 22 to Dec 22 and the avg. TRP for any of those 3 months or all 3 months combined doesn't come to an avg. of 2.3.

Since you are saying 2.3 is the average pre leap TRP, I request you to share your calculations or source.

Avg. 2.3 and avg. 2.1 mein farak hai. Like I mentioned earlier, from Oct 22 to Dec 22, Show was mostly 4th, now it is mostly in Top 3. Top 5 and Top 3 mein farak hai. There is no credible source for online TRPs like BARC. In any case, ITV serials are not made for online audience.

Love confession, grand wedding, pregnancy, divorce 1 , divorce 2 - avg . pre leap TRPs will include all of this. Post leap, none of this has happened. On top of that, Abhir truth track is being dragged since Abhimanyu left Kasauli and still it has not been revealed.

The TRPs did increase when leap happened in Jan 23. For now, Akshara is suffering because of her kid's illness and I guess next week's TRP will reflect Akshara pleading in front of Manjiri (who last insulted her when Abhimanyu was in the hospital and she ran away). This doesn't seem like a back with a bang situation to me.

Abhira are probably still the endgame but Abhinav may allow them to extend that endgame and have more eggs in their basket. He's been in the show for 3+ months now & his ss has been increased slowly and steadily. Idk what that means but why would they end his character & go back to the drawing board until the show's trps go into the kind of seesaw they had before him? They'll probably want to exhaust all tracks with him -- ideally -- and if those don't work they'll probably work toward reuniting abhira. Their daughter will be gen4's lead😆

Originally posted by: Silveraliax

Well then clearly I'm in the minority who thinks this track is good enough for 2.8

When Abhira OR Nav and Akshara get together and when Abhir's truth is out then what will the show have to offer? This is the last track that can get trps and I'm sorry but 2.3 is average yrkkh trp. They got that even with the boring holi track last year.

When you say that this track should get 2.8 when Ghum has got 2.5 (in effect beating Ghum) and Maa has got 2.9, did even the most interesting AbhiRa track ever beat Ghum and / or come within a 0.1 margin of Maa? I seem to have missed that.

I suppose there could be a lot of story when Abhir's truth is out as it has the potential of involving a lot of characters in some way or the other.

Kindly let me know how you came to know that 2.3 is the average YRKKH TRPs. I would like to track the average TRPs post leap from the same source. The person I follow gives only weekly TRPs.

Glad to know that YRKKH got 2.3 even with boring Holi Track last year. Please correct me if I am wrong but I think that week's TRP came out on 7 Apr 22.

https://twitter.com/GossipsTv/status/1511953410387750912?t=thEwjr8lP0MYhWpyIAaxFg&s=19

In that case, Maa TRP (most likely highest) was 3.5, and Chahatein had got more TRPs than Yeh rishta. Here, highest TRP is 2.9 and Chahatein has not got more TRPs than Yeh Rishta. So, people are finding this track less boring than the boring Holi Track.

My parents always had a debate about Sholay

Mom said because of Amitji the film became a Mega Hit

My father insisted on Dharam paji

When I finally saw the film after decades I loved Sanjeev Kumar's performance. He simply stole the limelight with his more then 2 min of SS.

Similarly ff to modern day Pathan, though the film is a salad of all MI films, I liked John Abraham over Shahrukh. His character had a better arc and he is more appropriate as a villain.

Deepika also did well in the stunts department.

So who brought the numbers or openings is irrelevant.

Yeh Rishta Kya khelata Hai will never be about the leads. Normally most of HC's shows revolved around his character only, I cannot figure out why.

In Yrkkh, Hina and Karan got their arc because of the Singhania's

Similarly Shivin had a plate full of Goenkas.

3rd generation did not go deep into family drama hence avg trps.

Repeating once again no actor can bring in trps it is a team effort.

Originally posted by: Snowfally

I have already done from Oct 22 to Dec 22 and the avg. TRP for any of those 3 months or all 3 months combined doesn't come to an avg. of 2.3.

Since you are saying 2.3 is the average pre leap TRP, I request you to share your calculations or source.

Avg. 2.3 and avg. 2.1 mein farak hai. Like I mentioned earlier, from Oct 22 to Dec 22, Show was mostly 4th, now it is mostly in Top 3. Top 5 and Top 3 mein farak hai. There is no credible source for online TRPs like BARC. In any case, ITV serials are not made for online audience.

Love confession, grand wedding, pregnancy, divorce 1 , divorce 2 - avg . pre leap TRPs will include all of this. Post leap, none of this has happened. On top of that, Abhir truth track is being dragged since Abhimanyu left Kasauli and still it has not been revealed.

The TRPs did increase when leap happened in Jan 23. For now, Akshara is suffering because of her kid's illness and I guess next week's TRP will reflect Akshara pleading in front of Manjiri (who last insulted her when Abhimanyu was in the hospital and she ran away). This doesn't seem like a back with a bang situation to me.

In my opinion, comparing YRRKH from Oct 2022 is so random because overall journey should be discussed but okay....

As far as I remember Oct 2022 was about divorce na? I dont think myself watched it because it was so dull just like the first leap so sorry for that but securing top 5 position even with such basic storyline is no easy feat. That's the point.

Top 3 is better than top 5 but you are forgetting competition also. You do realise Abhira had competition like bigg boss which had got its highest trp last year. What competition does it have now? Imlie without sumbhul and the same two top 2 shows?

Trp before confession - 2.3 to 2.8

Love confession - 3.0

Grand wedding - 2.4 or more I think

After that I stopped watching and came back now because I must love watching people be separated.

Trps will naturally increase with such leaps because people will always be interested to watch how the leads evolve and there is that newness to the show but makers could have generated more trps with this track. Their problem is that they start something good then they stop working on it and give half baked episodes by dragging things. This has happened since beginning hence you will see trp rise and then fall because makers do not wrap up episodes properly. They try something and then abandon it.

@Bold Ab mein kya he bolu. Akshara could have come back with a bang but sadly they showed her as a bechari. There was no need of jam selling or begging Manajri for surgery. After all that happened, Akshara should have been in a place where she can look at Birlas and not be phased. Audience loves to sympathise with fl but more than that, audience loves a badass fl and Akshara ain't one which is why in leaning towards abhi who is at least changing but yeh toh badli he nahi hain.

I guess I was expecting Parvati come back type scenes which is too much to expect from yrkkh makers. Now I'll never get it.

Originally posted by: Snowfally

When you say that this track should get 2.8 when Ghum has got 2.5 (in effect beating Ghum) and Maa has got 2.9, did even the most interesting AbhiRa track ever beat Ghum and / or come within a 0.1 margin of Maa? I seem to have missed that.

I suppose there could be a lot of story when Abhir's truth is out as it has the potential of involving a lot of characters in some way or the other.

Kindly let me know how you came to know that 2.3 is the average YRKKH TRPs. I would like to track the average TRPs post leap from the same source. The person I follow gives only weekly TRPs.

Glad to know that YRKKH got 2.3 even with boring Holi Track last year. Please correct me if I am wrong but I think that week's TRP came out on 7 Apr 22.

https://twitter.com/GossipsTv/status/1511953410387750912?t=thEwjr8lP0MYhWpyIAaxFg&s=19

In that case, Maa TRP (most likely highest) was 3.5, and Chahatein had got more TRPs than Yeh rishta. Here, highest TRP is 2.9 and Chahatein has not got more TRPs than Yeh Rishta. So, people are finding this track less boring than the boring Holi Track.

Yes YRKKH did beat Ghum when the truth of fire was revealed and Abhira United - 3.0 beating Ghum's 2.9. It also beat Ghum couple more times but I don't keep a record. All I remember is coming on trp threads since start of gen 3 and being surprised it would be in top 5 even with lamest tracks. And I think the few times it fell below 5 was when I wasn't watching so must be when leap 2 was happening which was a snooze fest. Never watched after wedding much because some way or another Arohi would be centre stage and didn't sign up to watch tht sorry. Even in wedding, Arohi was in the middle like why?

If yrkkh had 2.4 trp than how does that conclude that people are finding this track of 2.3 more interesting? This track has 10 times more masala than holi of last year which mostly had Abhira scenes and family fun - very clean but non dramatic episodes compared to now. Technically, this track should have fetched higher trps if your comparing to storyline because at the end of the day, content sells.

Originally posted by: Snowfally

Long story short - Show has no way near budget for grand festivals or weddings so dont expect trps from them.

writing starts well then goes to sleep so trps don't rise to their full potential.

In my opinion, comparing YRRKH from Oct 2022 is so random because overall journey should be discussed but okay....

Tell me how you calculated the average TRP from the Gen 3 beginning - was it Oct 21? - to pre leap Dec 22.

From the beginning of gen 3 and I must confess I did not actually add the figures and then divide to find average 🌚

As far as I remember Oct 2022 was about divorce na? I dont think myself watched it because it was so dull just like the first leap so sorry for that but securing top 5 position even with such basic storyline is no easy feat. That's the point.

Divorce in ITV is basic storyline?

I mean have you seen those episodes? Divorce doesn't mean trp guaranteed. You need head and tail for every storyline and makes were just experimenting since the confession. Just because the confession was so intense and good, they want to create similar episodes again.

Top 3 is better than top 5 but you are forgetting competition also. You do realise Abhira had competition like bigg boss which had got its highest trp last year. What competition does it have now? Imlie without sumbhul and the same two top 2 shows?

BB16 had its extension and finale this year post leap - Jan to Feb. It still maintained quite well. BB16 got 3.3 TRP - Rank 1 - in Feb this year. I think this is the highest TRP that BB16 has managed. BB15 was a flop last year. Imlie has been without Sumbul since atleast Oct 22 - again pre leap. What about Faltu? YRKKH was struggling to beat that also in Nov 22. Same two top shows were hardly beaten pre leap also. Infact, Maa was never by YRKKH as far as I remember.

BB16 started before Jan though. What's faltu?

Never said Anupama was beaten by yrkkh and neither did I say it should. Just because I'm saying yrkkh should get 2.8 trp now doesn't mean I'm expecting it to topple anupama. Anupama is watched by a greater range of audience than yrkkh and do not expect it to get anything less either. I mean have y seen anupama ke dialogues and side actors, they are on another level and I've said this since gen 3 began.

Trp before confession - 2.3 to 2.8

Love confession - 3.0

Grand wedding - 2.4 or more I think

Post leap, TRP before confession - 2.3 - 2.6. That too when the overall TRPs have crashed - not like 3.5 like pre leap.

Love confession - Not yet post leap

Grand wedding - Not yet post leap

That's why taking average TRP pre leap - again how are you getting those figures? - is so random.

Since you have the numbers, average gen 3 trp till this leap. It will not be bad I guarantee because I've been here since gen 3 began and show has always been stable. The only time I stopped watching was when leap 1 began.

After that I stopped watching and came back now because I must love watching people be separated.

Trps will naturally increase with such leaps because people will always be interested to watch how the leads evolve and there is that newness to the show but makers could have generated more trps with this track. Their problem is that they start something good then they stop working on it and give half baked episodes by dragging things. This has happened since beginning hence you will see trp rise and then fall because makers do not wrap up episodes properly. They try something and then abandon it.

@Bold Ab mein kya he bolu. Akshara could have come back with a bang but sadly they showed her as a bechari. There was no need of jam selling or begging Manajri for surgery. After all that happened, Akshara should have been in a place where she can look at Birlas and not be phased. Audience loves to sympathise with fl but more than that, audience loves a badass fl and Akshara ain't one which is why in leaning towards abhi who is at least changing but yeh toh badli he nahi hain.

I guess I was expecting Parvati come back type scenes which is too much to expect from yrkkh makers. Now I'll never get it.

Originally posted by: Snowfally

How is expecting higher trps for this track a bad thing?

We all know show can never match what Abhira had in the beginning but this track should fetch more than it is getting now simply because it has a lot of things going on that trp audience normally eats up.

I guess the only mistake is that makers do not know how to carry a track like this. Focus is lost.