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For every child taken away by CPA, there are hundreds of children living in abusive homes. Can’t remember the exact stats but you get my drift.

Haven’t read the thread or watched the trailer, yet. And I will not judge the parents whose lives this is based on. But In general, cultural relativism should not always be used as a justification.

Originally posted by: vcs17

everything grey is not cultural,

yes not denying that they the agency should have been more culturally sensitive

but denying that the mother may also have issues which required sensitive care is the grey area

the father fought for custody, which is why the divorce happened, never once did she also say that he was a bad parent

are you saying that post partum depression is recognised widely in india or indian mothers

you have to meet a gynaecologist in any small town in india to know that these issues are never prioritised by the family, a new mother needs as much care as a child, is she provided that. unfortunately it doesnt happen

@bold, it is not either or or, you can have psychological issues and still be a great, loving parent. we all have difficult moments, there are mothers who regret giving up their careers for their kids, does it make them bad mothers. mothers are humans too. saying she had issues is not saying she was a bad mother or did not fight desperately for her kids.

Just adding to this, I had read that her older kid (son) was also showing signs of autism after she had given birth to the second child. Her older kid needed special care, assistance and her undivided attention in such case and she was clearly not equipped to deal with so much work and burden with her husband's rigorous job (he was a scientist apparently). She needed an extra pair of hands because I highly doubt that they had domestic help in a foreign country.

A lot of indian parents are ill prepared to deal with kids with special needs because of lack of awareness. And taking care of an infant at the same time is not an easy feat either. I feel the authorities should have understood the situation the mother was in and lent their resources not reprimand her by taking her kids away. Or maybe it was that they thought she was not equipped to raise an autistic child and cultural bias played simultaneously leading to extreme measures. As you said it is not as black and white as the trailer is making it to be. Migrating parents must also abide by the rule of the land and this was 2 decades back so generally the rules were not stringent enough to hold the father equally at fault? He was let off the hook and the mother was branded crazy and unstable for what almost every new mom goes through. With extra help, she wouldn't have been stretched so thin as to get to the breaking point. A lot of desi men/fathers take no equal responsibility in raising kids. Mothers have to run around doing everything. The cultural differences would have been too many for the authorities to grasp.

There's also this allegation of the authorities forcefully giving in kids to foster homes to gain commission. I hope the movie showcases all angles of it and is not just a one sided narrative.

Originally posted by: ohophelia

Just adding to this, I had read that her older kid (son) was also showing signs of autism after she had given birth to the second child. Her older kid needed special care, assistance and her undivided attention in such case and she was clearly not equipped to deal with so much work and burden with her husband's rigorous job (he was a scientist apparently). She needed an extra pair of hands because I highly doubt that they had domestic help in a foreign country.

A lot of indian parents are ill prepared to deal with kids with special needs because of lack of awareness. And taking care of an infant at the same time is not an easy feat either. I feel the authorities should have understood the situation the mother was in and lent their resources not reprimand her by taking her kids away. Or maybe it was that they thought she was not equipped to raise an autistic child and cultural bias played simultaneously leading to extreme measures. As you said it is not as black and white as the trailer is making it to be. Migrating parents must also abide by the rule of the law and this was 2 decades back so generally the rules were not stringent enough to hold the father equally at fault? He was let off the hook and the mother was branded crazy and unstable for what almost new mom goes through. With extra help, she wouldn't have been stretched so thin as to get to the breaking point. A lot of desi men/fathers take no equal responsibility in raising kids. Mothers have to run around doing everything. The cultural differences would have been too many for the authorities to grasp.

There's also this allegation of the authorities forcefully giving in kids to foster homes to gain commission. I hope showcases all angles of it and is not just a one sided narrative.

yes, this is also an issue, unfortunately parents are not willing to accept that kid may issues which may need to be addressed, there is stigma attached to it.

the father not being able to devote time and the burden being on the mother was highlighted in few articles but this is not seen as a big issue as expectation are always more on women

Originally posted by: Supari_khala

For every child taken away by CPA, there are hundreds of children living in abusive homes. Can’t remember the exact stats but you get my drift.

Haven’t read the thread or watched the trailer, yet. And I will not judge the parents whose lives this is based on. But In general, cultural relativism should not always be used as a justification.

CPS is corrupted to the core. The amount of corruption is unimaginable. Whatever good has come out it is tilted way off by the bad it has managed to do. So no, I'm not in favour of these institutes because the rules are skewed and they favour the guardian/parent more than the child. The whole system needs an overhaul. Look up Gabriel Fernandez's case (there's a Netflix docu on this). Don't read too much, because it's not for the faint of heart. I couldn't sleep for a week after watching that.

Originally posted by: ohophelia

CPS is corrupted to the core. The amount of corruption is unimaginable. Whatever good has come out it is tilted way off by the bad it has managed to do. So no, I'm not in favour of these institutes because the rules are skewed and they favour the guardian/parent more than the child. The whole system needs an overhaul. Look up Gabriel Fernandez's case (there's a Netflix docu on this). Don't read too much, because it's not for the faint of heart. I couldn't sleep for a week after watching that.

Every system is corrupt.

Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly

I agree with your point, to an extent. Rani definitely has the kind of commercial success that the other two don’t. But the thing with flowerpot roles or any role is could anyone else have done those roles? I think for a lot of Rani’s commercial roles anyone else could have done it and it would have worked just as well. I don’t believe that to be true of Vidya and Tabu’s niche or dramatic roles.

i think this is a classic comparison of breadth vs depth

when we judge actors versatility is held as a benchmark, which is fine

actors like rani (even madhuri, rekha) are very good and can carry of most roles well enough from dramatic to comedy, dance etc.

then there are actors like tabu, vidya who are phenomenal but probably will not fit into some roles like the regular commerical ones or dance. i wont even say comedy as tabu has done roles like biwi no. 1 or vidya does great in tumhari sulu etc. but when you pick their best performances, they just are once in lifetimes performances like kahaani, chandni bar, dirty picture, haider, maqbool, andhadhun (tabu has a huge list). can rani do these roles, yes, she is good enough that she will carry them but when it comes to depth in the performance tabu and vidya will score imo. it is like if i compare a chandni bar or astitiva (intense roles) with a black i will rate tabu higher. but versaitily rani is higher

Osm , rani movie not to be missed

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Originally posted by: cougarTown

Can you give examples of those commercial roles? i am talking ever since she established herself..2002 onwards..

If you are hinting at bunty bubbly..nah..i don't think anyone could have done that AT ALL..if you are talking about the likes of Tara Rum Pum..Thora Jadu thora Magic..Dil bole haddipa..yes may be an equally good or less actor could have done those but then any one equally good or less could have done a Hey Baby too or a Kismat Konnection..or a Biwi Number 1..or Jai Ho for that matter..so i don't quite get this logic..rani still i believe has excelled in more genres than vidya for sure..though i love VB..

Juhi Chawla or Madhuri Dixit definitely could have done BAB and it would have been a feasible pairing if SRK had agreed to do the role. I do concede that Vidya probably couldn’t have done the role but at this point I’m not convinced that Tabu couldn’t have. I agree that anyone could have done Kismat Konnection or Biwi No. 1 or the likes. But I don’t think Rani could have done Haider or a Begum Jaan. This is my opinion but I don’t think she has the subtlety in dramatic roles that Tabu and Vidya have, specially Tabu.

Originally posted by: rushi1981

to put it simply… rani can do all the roles done by vidya and tabbu.. but you cant expect tabbu to do what rani did in bunty or babli and cant expect vidya to perform what rani did in dil bole hadippa…and being just mere 5 foot actress..the way she performed action scenes in mardani is beyond amazing…so yes Rani is far a head in terms of being a complete herione material as compared to tabbu and vidya

I think we’ll have to agree to disagree.

Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly

Juhi Chawla or Madhuri Dixit definitely could have done BAB and it would have been a feasible pairing if SRK had agreed to do the role. I do concede that Vidya probably couldn’t have done the role but at this point I’m not convinced that Tabu couldn’t have. I agree that anyone could have done Kismat Konnection or Biwi No. 1 or the likes. But I don’t think Rani could have done Haider or a Begum Jaan. This is my opinion but I don’t think she has the subtlety in dramatic roles that Tabu and Vidya have, specially Tabu.

I disagree with you on the last line especially with the word subtle, Rani is known to be subtle even in the 90's when everyone went OTT. Thats why she stood out as her acting was more earthy and real.

Have you seen Talaash? The depth of that performance outshines many other lead performances by an actor...