Ehsan and Viaan - Page 2

Originally posted by: Jugnu15

Hello everyone🙋‍♀️. Actually I wanted to express my frustration somewhere so I wrote this long post. Btw I'm new here.

Hi Mili. I agree with you regarding Ehsan but their execution is very poor. He's looking like a typical ITV vamp. Spiking drinks and all are just........ His insecurities could have been portrayed subtlety. And why is he so obsessed with Katha? As if he has never been attracted to any woman before or he has never seen any talented architect before!!! When Katha said no, be should have understood. It doesn't suit the character.

Welcome to the forum🤗

You can vent out your frustration here. No issues at all.😃

Originally posted by: Jugnu15

Hello everyone🙋‍♀️. Actually I wanted to express my frustration somewhere so I wrote this long post. Btw I'm new here.

Hi Mili. I agree with you regarding Ehsan but their execution is very poor. He's looking like a typical ITV vamp. Spiking drinks and all are just........ His insecurities could have been portrayed subtlety. And why is he so obsessed with Katha? As if he has never been attracted to any woman before or he has never seen any talented architect before!!! When Katha said no, be should have understood. It doesn't suit the character.

Jugnu, this is how the writing bug starts, and soon you will be writing even longer essays😊

It's a fun forum. Jump in any thread any time you wish to discuss about something.

I understand your disappointment in respect of the latest development in Ehsan's character. We had certain expectations of how the character's track would progress. All stories require conflicts to progress. Unfortunately, our Ehsan has been chosen as the main source of conflict. His actions will only make Viaan become stronger and give him opportunities to work through his issues.

Try to make your peace, and accept Ehsan as the new dashing vamp of the show. I have to admit that I enjoy seeing Aarav annoy him🤣now I look forward to seeing Viaan punch him at a later stage🤣

Originally posted by: Jugnu15

Hello everyone🙋‍♀️. Actually I wanted to express my frustration somewhere so I wrote this long post. Btw I'm new here.

Hi Mili. I agree with you regarding Ehsan but their execution is very poor. He's looking like a typical ITV vamp. Spiking drinks and all are just........ His insecurities could have been portrayed subtlety. And why is he so obsessed with Katha? As if he has never been attracted to any woman before or he has never seen any talented architect before!!! When Katha said no, be should have understood. It doesn't suit the character.

don't worry, there are some of us who write a lot lot lot longer. 🤣🤣

Hey mango! Yeah I saw some posts🤣

Originally posted by: mili9

Good afternoon girls !!!!! 😃

I hope all of you are well. Sorry to go MIA, ek emergency ko deal karni thi. Dealt with it amicably, and now back. Trying to catch up on a lot of things, and so, whatever I write here is sporadic.

I also wanted to write about the same two characters, and I hope you don't mind me using this space, my friend, Jugnu😳

OK, my amateur analysis, here we go. Let us talk about why Ehsan is so insecure of Viaan. The show didn't explicitly say this, but I am assuming by nature of implication that their partnership is so far complementary. Viaan is the brain and sweat behind the business with sound technical knowledge. He is the work horse of the company. But, being an introvert or by personality, he would hide behind stoicism, brusque demeanor and generally lacked people skills. Whatever decisions or work he had accomplished came out as collective effort by both Viaan and Ehsan, as Ehsan served as a mouthpiece for Viaan.

Ehsan has great people skills, laid back, talkative, approachable, with an easy smile. He probably portrayed Viaan, probably unintentionally as a guy who is on the altar, unapproachable, rigid, stern and uptight person. Of course, Viaan didn't contest this, as either he didn't know how he is being perceived as such or it suited him alright. He would rather do the work and let Ehsan do all the schmoozing or smoothening rough edges. So far, so good. Ehsan is that interface through which people communicated with Viaan and the management of the company. So, Ehsan felt that he had a solid role in the company as a communicator while Viaan did all the background work👍🏼. Ehsan's weaknesses ( either lack of technical expertise or astuteness or clarity ) were covered up effectively till now.

Now, Viaan is slowly coming out of his shell, talking on his own behalf, announcing his decisions and policies without using Ehsan as his mouthpiece. So, all of a sudden, Ehsan's role as that interface vanished. Viaan can work AND communicate too👍🏼. So, now Ehsan's role will be reduced to somebody whose money is in the firm, he doesn't automatically get included as the brain behind whatever policies or decisions that are made on behalf of the firm. He becomes someone who is reaping the benefits of his stronger partner because of his partnership. I may be very unfair in how I am looking at Ehsan and his typical transition to your quintessential vamp.

Just like a typical vamp he will fall on his face, the more he tries to defame Viaan. Like, he put Katha in-charge of an inebriated Viaan, in the car. What happened? She got to learn his sincerest apology and his deeper angst about the blunder he committed

I don't know why otherwise, all of a sudden he would look at his bachpan ka dost as his arch nemesis and tries to degrade him. He is making off the cuff remarks on him, such as excess alcohol use and other things, in the guise of being a jokester. He probably also feels that there may be some deeper connection between Viaan and Katha, who is his current object of affection. Because, he knows that once Viaan Raghuvanshi's worth as a professional comes out, Ehsan doesn't stand a chance. So, he is degrading him at a humanistic, personal level. This is my take on Ehsan's behavior- jealous, sly and back stabbing🤢

Nice thing is that Viaan is not keeping quiet and giving in to misunderstandings, he is standing up for himself and questioning Ehsan for all the off beat comments. Not sure how many felt this way, but Viaan's dance was hilarious, bilkul bandar jaisa. I am not a dance police, but I felt there was not much grace in it, just a joyous liberation🤣with flailing limbs😃

Not sure what Ehsan and his mom see in Katha, to the point that they are going to the extent of talking about break up of the company. Ek technically solid architect se, business bann jata hain, is news to me😲they are foolish if they don't acknowledge team work of Earthcon for their success, not one Dubai heritage project and certainly not one architect Or are the writers feeding us more on Katha is next to Frank Lloyd Wright ?

Lastly, what is godh ke laddoo?😲 The girl next to Katha at the party in green looked really pretty, is it Jenny? Just my random thoughts.

Fire away ladies..........

Tagging a few of my old buddies here.............. I am sure I am forgetting some names.

@Rishu, absolutely didn't forget you, my friend🤗 Good, bad and ugly times we had before😃, good to see you here.

Such an exact analysis of Ehsan's and Viaan's characters👏

Hi, I recently started watching Katha and got completely hooked.. Haven't been much on this forum yet..but am trying to catch up on the many many write ups..

Originally posted by: mili9

Good afternoon girls !!!!! 😃

I hope all of you are well. Sorry to go MIA, ek emergency ko deal karni thi. Dealt with it amicably, and now back. Trying to catch up on a lot of things, and so, whatever I write here is sporadic.

I also wanted to write about the same two characters, and I hope you don't mind me using this space, my friend, Jugnu😳

OK, my amateur analysis, here we go. Let us talk about why Ehsan is so insecure of Viaan. The show didn't explicitly say this, but I am assuming by nature of implication that their partnership is so far complementary. Viaan is the brain and sweat behind the business with sound technical knowledge. He is the work horse of the company. But, being an introvert or by personality, he would hide behind stoicism, brusque demeanor and generally lacked people skills. Whatever decisions or work he had accomplished came out as collective effort by both Viaan and Ehsan, as Ehsan served as a mouthpiece for Viaan.

Ehsan has great people skills, laid back, talkative, approachable, with an easy smile. He probably portrayed Viaan, probably unintentionally as a guy who is on the altar, unapproachable, rigid, stern and uptight person. Of course, Viaan didn't contest this, as either he didn't know how he is being perceived as such or it suited him alright. He would rather do the work and let Ehsan do all the schmoozing or smoothening rough edges. So far, so good. Ehsan is that interface through which people communicated with Viaan and the management of the company. So, Ehsan felt that he had a solid role in the company as a communicator while Viaan did all the background work👍🏼. Ehsan's weaknesses ( either lack of technical expertise or astuteness or clarity ) were covered up effectively till now.

Now, Viaan is slowly coming out of his shell, talking on his own behalf, announcing his decisions and policies without using Ehsan as his mouthpiece. So, all of a sudden, Ehsan's role as that interface vanished. Viaan can work AND communicate too👍🏼. So, now Ehsan's role will be reduced to somebody whose money is in the firm, he doesn't automatically get included as the brain behind whatever policies or decisions that are made on behalf of the firm. He becomes someone who is reaping the benefits of his stronger partner because of his partnership. I may be very unfair in how I am looking at Ehsan and his typical transition to your quintessential vamp.

Just like a typical vamp he will fall on his face, the more he tries to defame Viaan. Like, he put Katha in-charge of an inebriated Viaan, in the car. What happened? She got to learn his sincerest apology and his deeper angst about the blunder he committed

I don't know why otherwise, all of a sudden he would look at his bachpan ka dost as his arch nemesis and tries to degrade him. He is making off the cuff remarks on him, such as excess alcohol use and other things, in the guise of being a jokester. He probably also feels that there may be some deeper connection between Viaan and Katha, who is his current object of affection. Because, he knows that once Viaan Raghuvanshi's worth as a professional comes out, Ehsan doesn't stand a chance. So, he is degrading him at a humanistic, personal level. This is my take on Ehsan's behavior- jealous, sly and back stabbing🤢

Nice thing is that Viaan is not keeping quiet and giving in to misunderstandings, he is standing up for himself and questioning Ehsan for all the off beat comments. Not sure how many felt this way, but Viaan's dance was hilarious, bilkul bandar jaisa. I am not a dance police, but I felt there was not much grace in it, just a joyous liberation🤣with flailing limbs😃

Not sure what Ehsan and his mom see in Katha, to the point that they are going to the extent of talking about break up of the company. Ek technically solid architect se, business bann jata hain, is news to me😲they are foolish if they don't acknowledge team work of Earthcon for their success, not one Dubai heritage project and certainly not one architect Or are the writers feeding us more on Katha is next to Frank Lloyd Wright ?

Lastly, what is godh ke laddoo?😲 The girl next to Katha at the party in green looked really pretty, is it Jenny? Just my random thoughts.

Fire away ladies..........

Tagging a few of my old buddies here.............. I am sure I am forgetting some names.

@Rishu, absolutely didn't forget you, my friend🤗 Good, bad and ugly times we had before😃, good to see you here.

I LOVE your analysis and I do agree with most points. I think Ehsaan's role in the company was mostly HR related in a way. If I remember correctly, Katha met Viaan for the first time in the first or second episode but it seems she has met Ehsaan before and he was involved in her hiring. I could be wrong about this detail. Also this whole policy about "single women" and all. Ehsaan was soo stuck on that and kept mentioning it to Viaan over and over again.

I think this whole Viaan's guilt trip has made him question a lot of his decisions, policies and life. And now he wants to really repent and change things around him. I do think that Viaan should run some of these things by Ehsaan before announcing them. However, on the other end of the spectrum, Viaan is soo used to Ehsaan supporting him no matter what that he cannot fathom that Ehsaan would question him.

I am bugged by one thing though, both of these men are in their 30s. I think by 30, there should be some maturity about being introspective and reflecting on your thoughts/ actions. My problem is not essentially with Ehsaan drugging Viaan. People do things all the time in the heat of the moment and at that point in the party- it really seemed that Viaan was the star and Ehsaan was just background.

My problem is they should have at least showed Ehsaan feeling a little guilty or just questioning his actions. Hell even a hesitancy or a sense of guilt when he sees Viaan all drunk. SOMETHING!!

That little display of insight doesn't mean he won't become negative, it would just help us understand this transition more.

He may not be the main character but why can't all characters have some point of introspection and background??

I really do hate a friendship going down under because of a romantic interest. I haven't watched the OG but does the friendship ever get fixed?

PS- I actually did like Viaan's dancing. I thought he was pretty decent ;-)

Thank you ladies for all the wishes🤗 It makes my day a little birghter❤️.

Welcome Jugnu, Austen and anybody who is joining us and want to vent or dissect out the show and characters. We are a brutal but a fun bunch with regards to our dissections😃Jugnu, I am one of those essay writers that Mango is pointing out😔.

Letha and Shalzie, I think in my mind I am talking about Ehsan's role internally in the company. Absolutely agree, it is Viaan who is moving the business forward, project forward with actual actions on the ground. Of course, if somebody is not solid with their expertise, they can't bring in the business. Schmoozing se kaam nahin chalega, especially when the stakes are high. He won't be able to make well thought out negotiations if he is not sure of the content OR think on his feet as he speaks with the clients. So, yeah, Viaan is the face of the company in his architectural world👍🏼 Should have been more clear😔.

@hemanshi, it is bothering me as well that this long term friendship is going to crumble over nothing😒.

Originally posted by: mili9

Thank you ladies for all the wishes🤗 It makes my day a little birghter❤️.

Welcome Jugnu, Austen and anybody who is joining us and want to vent or dissect out the show and characters. We are a brutal but a fun bunch with regards to our dissections😃Jugnu, I am one of those essay writers that Mango is pointing out😔.

Letha and Shalzie, I think in my mind I am talking about Ehsan's role internally in the company. Absolutely agree, it is Viaan who is moving the business forward, project forward with actual actions on the ground. Of course, if somebody is not solid with their expertise, they can't bring in the business. Schmoozing se kaam nahin chalega, especially when the stakes are high. He won't be able to make well thought out negotiations if he is not sure of the content OR think on his feet as he speaks with the clients. So, yeah, Viaan is the face of the company in his architectural world👍🏼 Should have been more clear😔.

@hemanshi, it is bothering me as well that this long term friendship is going to crumble over nothing😒.

I do feel the friendship hasn't really been that pure so yeh hona hi tha.. Over something or at some point or other.. Bcz it's been an unequal partnership.. Probably the fathers worked well and equally together but with the sons one is a better, more intelligent, more invested worker than the other and has built up over the previous generation while Ehsan is mostly just enjoying the fruits of his father's and now his 'friend's' labour..

Originally posted by: hemanshi

I LOVE your analysis and I do agree with most points. I think Ehsaan's role in the company was mostly HR related in a way. If I remember correctly, Katha met Viaan for the first time in the first or second episode but it seems she has met Ehsaan before and he was involved in her hiring. I could be wrong about this detail. Also this whole policy about "single women" and all. Ehsaan was soo stuck on that and kept mentioning it to Viaan over and over again.

I think this whole Viaan's guilt trip has made him question a lot of his decisions, policies and life. And now he wants to really repent and change things around him. I do think that Viaan should run some of these things by Ehsaan before announcing them. However, on the other end of the spectrum, Viaan is soo used to Ehsaan supporting him no matter what that he cannot fathom that Ehsaan would question him.

I am bugged by one thing though, both of these men are in their 30s. I think by 30, there should be some maturity about being introspective and reflecting on your thoughts/ actions. My problem is not essentially with Ehsaan drugging Viaan. People do things all the time in the heat of the moment and at that point in the party- it really seemed that Viaan was the star and Ehsaan was just background.

My problem is they should have at least showed Ehsaan feeling a little guilty or just questioning his actions. Hell even a hesitancy or a sense of guilt when he sees Viaan all drunk. SOMETHING!!

That little display of insight doesn't mean he won't become negative, it would just help us understand this transition more.

He may not be the main character but why can't all characters have some point of introspection and background??

I really do hate a friendship going down under because of a romantic interest. I haven't watched the OG but does the friendship ever get fixed?

PS- I actually did like Viaan's dancing. I thought he was pretty decent ;-)

Hemanshi, I totally agree with the parts in bold. I think that this show has defined its main characters, and they are Katha, Aarav, Viaan, MamaG and PapaG. All the others, even if they appear important to us, are just side characters. They help the story to move along but they never offer us any insight into these characters. Unfortunately, Ehsan seems to be one of those. I have always liked him since the start. I felt like it was a solid friendship and that they were brothers more than friends. Most of us are shocked because we never saw any sign that we were headed in this direction where Ehsan can stoop so low. We did get some indications that Ehsan wanted to be consulted before Viaan took some decisions on behalf of Earth Con. We did not give much importance to this because we never knew how Ehsan really felt. I do not like putting people into white or black boxes. I am fine with people being grey. However, it seems that makers have chosen to vilify Ehsan to redeem Viaan.I am disappointed with the way Ehsan character has turned out. As an avid reader, I understand that the storyteller's vision won't always match mine. So, I am fine with it.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

don't worry, there are some of us who write a lot lot lot longer. 🤣🤣

M, it's been a while since I've seen an essay from you!😲

Fewer scenes of PapaG, architecture has disappeared from the show and Abdali has vanished...are you getting bored?🤣