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Posted: 2 years ago
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I opened this thread because Rapist and Prostitute both are derogatory word for men and women.

Rapist is criminal and Prostitute is labeled as characterless.

I think when Katha says from the third person both have done paap, it means both are characterless.

I want to understand whether you considered people engaging in ONS are characterless. Or is it restricted to Prostitute. What will you say to man if he sleeps with prostitute one time. Is he also characterless?

I think lot of people agree upon prostitute. So whether Viaan is right in asking her 2nd time ONS because if once she sold her body, she is assumed to do it again for money.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neutral2

I opened this thread because Rapist and Prostitute both are derogatory word for men and women.

Rapist is criminal and Prostitute is labeled as characterless.

I think when Katha says from the third person both have done paap, it means both are characterless.

I want to understand whether you considered people engaging in ONS are characterless. Or is it restricted to Prostitute. What will you say to man if he sleeps with prostitute one time. Is he also characterless?

I think lot of people agree upon prostitute. So whether Viaan is right in asking her 2nd time ONS because if once she sold her body, she is assumed to do it again for money.

Neither prostitution nor ONS makes anyone characterless. - there are 2 parties in each situation and each is equally responsible for it.

Rapists are the only characterless people in this discussion.

Edited by Irshita - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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I think if katha would have been a gold digger then it would have made Viaan's offer valid, nothing wrong about it. Because i suppose gold digger is someone who attracts a man for money or financial favour. So the very purpose of gold digger is to get the money by using her body as bait. If katha would have been a gold digger then she would not have felt an ounce of guilt for that night and infact she would have been happily agreed for it or may be she would have proposed the offer herself.


Now when viaan apologized this question was put up by katha that he is apologising because she turned out to be helpless mother but if she was a normal girl then viaan would have not feeling guilty about it. And she didn't give chance to viaan to explain himself. Viaan was struggling to reply back. He said i am not like that. I dont do this to.

We have seen how viaan hates gold digger kind of girls. He thought very highly of katha but when she made an unreasonable demand, he kind of felt betrayed for trusting her.

The very premises of this incident depends on the fact that since viaan thought that katha is also gold digger, he wanted to test her. Now he is not some judge for human character certification and he had no rights to do that but he went ahead. And even katha didn't tell him anything and accepted the offer.


So in my opinion, it may be called ONS but some people are right that it was not result of mutual attraction. So it cant be put strictly in ONS category.

It was definitely not a rape because there was no force, threats, crime, brutality involved. There was clear consent from both parties.

It falls in to the bookish definition of prostitution where girl gets money by selling her body. It depends on girl for whatever reason she spends money but offering sexual favour in return of money is involved. But since we are watching from the start and we know the context, we know katha and her struggles so it would not be justice to her character if we put the incident in the category of prostitution.

So the best possible term to use for it was already suggested by viaan in one episode, ie, deal/transaction, where both the parties consents and get some benifit out of other.

Edited by Bechain_Bulbul - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Agree, neither prostitutes or those who indulge in one night stands are characterless. That is a very one dimensional way of looking at it and we are no one to judge.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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It’s called sexual harassment

The minute Viaan offered Katha money in exchange for sex as HER BOSS, it’s sexual harassment

He used his power & position to take advantage of an employee for monetary terms


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Posted: 2 years ago
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No, it was not sexual harrasment in my opinion.

Viaan didn't give company's money to her. He gave his personal money. And he didn't promise to give her promotion or any kind of increment for that night or threatened to throw her out of job if she says no. So yes, he was her boss, in a position of power but he didn't do anything in professional capacity. He clearly said, if your answer is no then you can forget about the offer like it ever existed and nothing will change between them. So it cant be called sexual harrasment.


What happened between viaan and katha is very unique to their case. So it can't be put it any category i guess.

Edited by Bechain_Bulbul - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Irshita

Neither prostitution nor ONS makes anyone characterless. - there are 2 parties in each situation and each is equally responsible for it.

Rapists are the only characterless people in this discussion.

The word prostitute gives a different impression of woman. No decent man want to marry or love prostitute. People are even scared to do friendship or talk with them.

Here Katha Viaan has secretly done that. But when it is revealed to public, Katha will get derogatory comments from public.

That's why I don't consider this as prostitution.

I have read in this forum, lot of people are upset for Viaan 2nd proposal of ONS. People are ready to beat him online.

If lot of people agree that it fall to the bookish definition of prostitution then what is wrong with Viaan 2nd offer of ONS.

Edited by Neutral2 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#18

For those people who are saying this as prostitution or near prostitution. I have one question. Would you call people beggar who ask for charity for medical treatment.

Is Katha beggar too since she asked for help from strangers?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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If an employer asks sexual favour from his employee in return for promotion or providing payment is termed as Sexual harassment.

IRL, either women keep quiet about the harassment or be brave and report it.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: angelic2005

It was no longer a loan it was a deal. Otherwise Katha would insist paying it back. She put down conditions but Viaan got curious and broke them.

I agree. The serial should show she is atleast trying to repay back EMI. But she become carefree since she got money.

Damn.. Viaan is that rich to afford 1 cr for ONS.

Edited by Neutral2 - 2 years ago

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