Katha Ankahee -- #daily episode discussion thread - Page 113

I think all the points you raise have been discussed in the EDT by many people. I will just state what I like about the show.

End of the day, we must in our moral standards have the ability to demarcate. To me the ML is a immoral man, he is in no way a victim and in no way can he be excused for his behavior. To me the FL is a a very courageous woman who has made a questionable choice but has immense clarity on it. She is a victim of her circumstance, not his victim.

In fact, I have said this before, I may be in the minority, I don’t want him to be forgiven, unless he has walked through burning coals.

In my personal life, I have worked with sex workers, I have learned a lot about what does empowerment truly mean for these women. They have helped me understand that end of the day a transaction must also be honored. My friend even represented a sex worker who was raped, a male colleague said “Arrey what was she expecting?” That is where our moral standards are reduced to.

Yes, I do hope on Twitter and other SM, the ML is not being made into a hero because now he is going through some moral dilemma. The fact is he came from a point of privilege- both as a boss and as a man, he should have known better. But that’s why he is not a hero. I want his friend at some point to call him out on it.

For me fiction, no matter what genre is a suspension of reality, now the quality of fiction or how much we can relate, will determine how much leeway can be given. The day we have a track where the guy just says sorry and all is forgiven, for me the show ends.

I urge you to read the EDT discussions, they have been really good, lots more here discuss these issues way better!

Lets see how the ML character is treated. To me, already he seems to be getting leeway from makers side in the way his monologues are written. To say he was merely doing all this as a "test" is silly. i mean, who the F is he to test anyone?! if he couldnt give her the money, simply say no. thats it. The explanation that logic wont be applied simply coz its a fictional show and they create OTT situations for drama- i dont fully buy that - can we not expect more tightly written scripts and plots as audience. I mean if people are putting all this effort into making a show, then they can plug the obvious loopholes atleast. If the audience is invested in the story, often a lot of things are overlooked, ignored, forgotten by the audience simply because they felt engaged in the story. but that liberty shouldn't be used to the point that- the loopholes are too glaring. even first 100 episodes arent tight without glaring loopholes- thats not fair na.

there have been several shows where even though there is a loophole right in the beginning I have still given the show a chance just because I liked the actors etc but that faith in waiting for the story to play out has never been rewarded.

So now I am wary of trusting. If people cant give a good water tight plot even for 50 episodes, I dont know if I should still give it a go. But then theres such few options available on tV hat I am conflicted. Obviously I watch webshows but then in the genre I want to watch theres limited options.

I want to emphasise I have only suspended reality with respect to the FL’s choice or her circumstances. I have in no way made that leeway for the way the ML has behaved. But I am able to separate what I expect from a ML and what this ML is. He is no hero, he was never meant to be. I am not impressed with him in any way, his immoral standpoint and his obnoxious behavior is well, just that. If they had put cheesy eerie bg music every time he came on the screen, he would have been a clear villain.

To me he is a bad person, and the writing is meant to do that. It is a tight script because it is creating a space in between his immoral behavior and confusion, very thinly. I have not interpreted his inner voice as an excuse for his behaviour, I have interpreted it as a response to his moral standards, and his expectations from his own set of double standards.

Those of us who have interpreted it as an excuse or something to right his wrong, are used to seeing our men in shows as heroes or villains. That is one set of audience for sure. This audience whatever they see will only look at life through that lens.

But there are other ways to look at it - He is no hero, let us hope he doesn’t reach the point of a villain - this may be one interpretation. Another interpretation could be he is a villain- let us see if he can redeem himself. The writers imo are now catering to both these interpretations.

Originally posted by: kshitu_20

I really really don't want to see second ONS offer and everything.. bas kaafi bura fcuk up kar liya hai already Viaan ne.. woh wala part omit kar do writers 🙏

Oh yes yes..

Makers, please don't show that . Viaan should not ask for 2nd ONS

to me, the way the inner voice is playing out, it seems as if its going alone the lines of justifying his behavior. I hope that wont happen but thats the sense I am getting unfortunately. So more than ONS, thats what is bothering me.

Waise ye ONS hua ki nahi??🤣

All these discussions make me think maybe if they showed katha as docile rotlu fl, a true bechari then audience would have been sympathetic to her ons. But as she fought a lot to the point she can't, and she accepted viaan ka offer and that's how story will progress, it's hard to select for audience who is the true victim.

Makers could have given some time to the leads , more scenes together but they gave that time to establish katha arav storyline to establish the length she will go for her kid (she went to her FIL who basically said her kid should die and went a second time). It suffered the storyline imo. The ons offer came out of nowhere for audience and of course the ml looked sleazy with no amount of monologue can fix that as of now. They are following the og to the T minus viaan ka backstory, as again they have no reason to make ml offer ons in exchange of money.

Originally posted by: Nja91

to me, the way the inner voice is playing out, it seems as if its going alone the lines of justifying his behavior. I hope that wont happen but thats the sense I am getting unfortunately. So more than ONS, thats what is bothering me.

I think you have to look at it as

“HE is justifying his behavior, HE is a bad person. His arrogance and sense of might is making him blame HER. But we as audience can’t wait for him to fall.”
So it’s not writers turning his actions or him as excusable, the writers are driving home the point, a man like that will first always try and gaslight and make it seem like he was not wrong. In his justification of the act, because he wants to be on moral high ground, he will say all this.

We as audience should discern that information as such, we are interpreting it as a “safety zone” but it’s not, it’s a continuation of his arrogant behavior. He is gaslighting himself, but as audience we should not get gaslit. At the most, we can commiserate on his confusion, and therefore cannot wait for his fall when things get revealed.

We will see it as justification of his beaviour if as audience have already attached them together, but in the story, they are not, they are still two separate individuals. It is not justification of his behavior , it is HIM justifying his behavior. There is a difference.

Originally posted by: Nja91

One more show where I started watching because of the buzz, enjoyed the first few episodes and found them intriguing but was quickly let down. i think the leads have great chemistry. but why do all ITV plots have this OTTness to it in a cringe way? it looks crazy that a woman like Katha would rather sleep with someone rather than speak the truth about what her issue is....I mean she could always offer sex for money if telling the truth didnt work. and now that her contract is also permanent and not probation etc, she cant simply be fired for revealing the truth that she has a family. And she still potentially has the option to go strike a deal with the rival company who offered her money and a job too...so why not atleast explore that...they wanna show that she is running out of time and she is desperate but even so, its OTT. its disappointing that every show I give a chance to, where I like the actors ends up giving something in the plot thats hard to digest...

If she tells the truth there may not be ONS .. if there’s no ONS the show will be another routine boss/employee office drama which will turn into sass bahu.. ONS makes this show unique n interesting

Originally posted by: Phir_Mohabbat

All these discussions make me think maybe if they showed katha as docile rotlu fl, a true bechari then audience would have been sympathetic to her ons. But as she fought a lot to the point she can't, and she accepted viaan ka offer and that's how story will progress, it's hard to select for audience who is the true victim.

Makers could have given some time to the leads , more scenes together but they gave that time to establish katha arav storyline to establish the length she will go for her kid (she went to her FIL who basically said her kid should die and went a second time). It suffered the storyline imo. The ons offer came out of nowhere for audience and of course the ml looked sleazy with no amount of monologue can fix that as of now. They are following the og to the T minus viaan ka backstory, as again they have no reason to make ml offer ons in exchange of money.

ONS should be in the beginning only..

If viaan’s layers are unfolded and audiance are connected to his character as he’s the ML ,at that point if ons is shown it will be biggest shock to the audience .