KATHA - EXTREME IDEALISM and.......... - Page 2

Originally posted by: Param-Sundari

Bigger sleaze ball 🤣

But it's also ITV soo the "hero" is forgiven for being the sleaze ball because he's traumatized and doesn't trust women 😬🙄

And hence the heartburn, my friend🤔 Hero ji gets mad at all women because his dad leaves him and his mom. Flip the same scenario, the girl who is from a broken home in our TV shows tries to become soooo sanskaari that no one( any man ) can " hate or leave" her ever. Heroes get a free pass with excuses, but the heroines go through the wringer😭I get irritated with these tropes, Pooja😒

Yeh loyalty kuch bhi samajh nahin aarahi hain, as she goes about being loyal to the " company", here the company (read Viaan) is saying, I don't know yaar, she hasn't given me enough, like willed away her heart, liver and one kidney to me and my company to make her the " permanent employee"

I am by no means suggesting she should betray and sell her designs. I will be the first to be up in arms about that. Because it comes under the clause of intellectual property when you are under contract with a company, and therefore belong to the company. This much I am clear, but she could have negotiated a different design with the rival company. What I am not clear is if the designs are approved and bidding is going on just for the execution/build OR the design and build is up for grabs. If designs are approved, then bargaining from Katha for the same design doesn't make sense. But if both design and build is up for the grabs, then, Katha can certainly bargain to work for the rival company with new design. Am I missing something here, girls? I am confused.

I know I should move on, but I am so stuck on the " architect should be single to dedicate her/his life to the company"😒. I mean in the era of everyone thinking about work-life balance, how does someone else dictate what your personal life should be? Are pets allowed, because, as far as I know, they are also responsibilities which require a time commitment and time pressure. Woh bathroom door or refrigerator open nahin kar sakte......... just to be clear🤡I mean all civil liberties can be dictated, may be time to go to bed, or what you eat or where you go...... so on and so forth... This belongs to a different era altogether.

I am also not sure, if it is just the lead architect who should be single or every employee has to be single? That means the Jeetu sir is also single? But Viaan has a mother- Booo.... RESPONSIBILITY☢️

OK, will shut up now😃and move on......

Originally posted by: mili9

And hence the heartburn, my friend🤔 Hero ji gets mad at all women because his dad leaves him and his mom. Flip the same scenario, the girl who is from a broken home in our TV shows tries to become soooo sanskaari that no one( any man ) can " hate or leave" her ever. Heroes get a free pass with excuses, but the heroines go through the wringer😭I get irritated with these tropes, Pooja😒

Yeh loyalty kuch bhi samajh nahin aarahi hain, as she goes about being loyal to the " company", here the company (read Viaan) is saying, I don't know yaar, she hasn't given me enough, like willed away her heart, liver and one kidney to me and my company to make her the " permanent employee"

I am by no means suggesting she should betray and sell her designs. I will be the first to be up in arms about that. Because it comes under the clause of intellectual property when you are under contract with a company, and therefore belong to the company. This much I am clear, but she could have negotiated a different design with the rival company. What I am not clear is if the designs are approved and bidding is going on just for the execution/build OR the design and build is up for grabs. If designs are approved, then bargaining from Katha for the same design doesn't make sense. But if both design and build is up for the grabs, then, Katha can certainly bargain to work for the rival company with new design. Am I missing something here, girls? I am confused.

I know I should move on, but I am so stuck on the " architect should be single to dedicate her/his life to the company"😒. I mean in the era of everyone thinking about work-life balance, how does someone else dictate what your personal life should be? Are pets allowed, because, as far as I know, they are also responsibilities which require a time commitment and time pressure. Woh bathroom door or refrigerator open nahin kar sakte......... just to be clear🤡I mean all civil liberties can be dictated, may be time to go to bed, or what you eat or where you go...... so on and so forth... This belongs to a different era altogether.

I am also not sure, if it is just the lead architect who should be single or every employee has to be single? That means the Jeetu sir is also single? But Viaan has a mother- Booo.... RESPONSIBILITY☢️

OK, will shut up now😃and move on......

Mili dude 🤣

I can't stop laughing 😭🤣

You can have parents as per jitu sir who knows katha ke parents are dead. And so viaan is okay 😂

Yes, the thing about asking for design was rather ambiguous because who does the design belong to? And if there is already a deal btw Viaan and Dubai co than what will aniruddh do with the designs?

I'm sure it was just a moral science lesson nothing else. 🙄

Its also about choices, but idk if i want to go that deep into such an ambiguous scene.

Originally posted by: ruchita3179

In my opinion this single thing specially for women.In my company there is no policy though but they prefer married women who already have a kid or atleast married .Seems they think that they will work for more years & already settled in family.They had experiences with many single girls moving out of company after marriage. So they prefer already settled ones. This is my opinion no policy though.But such prejudiced thinking is not right but are there.

This is so sad and irritating to hear, my friend. I know our workplaces have to mature to give everyone the equal opportunity, with no prejudice or discrimination against gender, sex, marital, physical disabilities and reproductive status. Only then, can all of us feel safe to work and blossom. I wish the day comes fast in our country😳.

I have been out of the country for a while, and was astonished to hear the " single hona chaahiye" so openly spelled out in the show. Here there are laws against gathering such information and acting based on that kind of information.

I understand what you are saying about " unwritten rules". Unfortunately, we don't have checks and balances to call out people who are selecting employees or students based on specific personal profiles, as if someone blows the whistle, they will have the pay the price with either losing work or worse still......... I get really, really sad when I hear/see this happening in my country😒

Originally posted by: Sadika1011

I AGREE.

Somehow it feels like Katha is not desperate enough. Like if it was my kids life and needed money. No matter what shady or bad things I had to do. I would do it. But, Katha seems so unrealistic on this aspect.

As for Viaan I am still confused as to why he would give her ONS condition to give the money. Like it doesn’t seem like he is attracted to her at the moment unlike the original. I can’t seem to understand the logic.

May be katha went against him and did contact arpita for transport issue despite everyone warn her

May be that has triggered Viaan

Let see

also, I did not like katha - agreeing for ONS versus out speaking about her designs that pyramid has approached her

Give me permanent job plus loan otherwise I will join pyramid… then I do not see loyalty issue

She should blast Viaan when he puts condition of ons

That she could have got 1 crore easily by joining hands with rivalry

She is getting this treatment for her loyalty

at the end, this o s looks force fitting and katha’s muteness is not going well with me

Her self respect. Vs loyalty is also poorly executed

Originally posted by: DiamondLife

May be katha went against him and did contact arpita for transport issue despite everyone warn her

May be that has triggered Viaan

Let see

also, I did not like katha - agreeing for ONS versus out speaking about her designs that pyramid has approached her

Give me permanent job plus loan otherwise I will join pyramid… then I do not see loyalty issue

She should blast Viaan when he puts condition of ons

That she could have got 1 crore easily by joining hands with rivalry

She is getting this treatment for her loyalty

at the end, this o s looks force fitting and katha’s muteness is not going well with me

Her self respect. Vs loyalty is also poorly executed

See it is unreasonable and unrealistic for Katha to agree to ONS when she has another means to get the money. Like Loyalty shouldn’t matter when it’s her kids life in line. The most important thing for her should be no matter what happens she needs the money. And the most realistic way to get that money would be to join the other firm and get the money. Because if you look at self respect aspect even then she should choose the rival and figure things out once the whole kids life in danger situation is over. Because ONS is worse for her self respect than betraying her current job.

Originally posted by: Sadika1011

See it is unreasonable and unrealistic for Katha to agree to ONS when she has another means to get the money. Like Loyalty shouldn’t matter when it’s her kids life in line. The most important thing for her should be no matter what happens she needs the money. And the most realistic way to get that money would be to join the other firm and get the money. Because if you look at self respect aspect even then she should choose the rival and figure things out once the whole kids life in danger situation is over. Because ONS is worse for her self respect than betraying her current job.

Agreed. Spending a night in exchange for money mein kaunsa self-respect hain. When compared to this, selling her talent for the right price, at the right time to a right company seems to be the practical thing to do Koi rules nahin break kar rahi hain, just too much of extrapolated idealismHer loyalty seems to be misplaced. When the company doesn't even give her the courtesy of a permanent employee, kaunsa loyalty bhai and why?

So far the Pyramid guy is not shown as a sleaze-ball. He is trying to poach her for his own benefit. If poaching people and lobbying with higher ups are not against the process, then Viaan saying we respect hierarchy is also moot and to some extent stupid😵. Not sure how the process works, but if there are no such rule to the process, then, sab kuch jaayez hain when the stakes are high👍🏼. So, if he had tunnel vision of only talking to the beard guy, then don't blame the rival for going above and beyond him, if there are no rules set in stone😎.

I need this Viaan guy to soften up a bit, and come out of the angry young man persona and show us the humanistic side of his personality. It is intriguing for a bit, but after that it grates on my nerves🤔

Originally posted by: mili9

Agreed. Spending a night in exchange for money mein kaunsa self-respect hain. When compared to this, selling her talent for the right price, at the right time to a right company seems to be the practical thing to do Koi rules nahin break kar rahi hain, just too much of extrapolated idealismHer loyalty seems to be misplaced. When the company doesn't even give her the courtesy of a permanent employee, kaunsa loyalty bhai and why?

So far the Pyramid guy is not shown as a sleaze-ball. He is trying to poach her for his own benefit. If poaching people and lobbying with higher ups are not against the process, then Viaan saying we respect hierarchy is also moot and to some extent stupid😵. Not sure how the process works, but if there are no such rule to the process, then, sab kuch jaayez hain when the stakes are high👍🏼. So, if he had tunnel vision of only talking to the beard guy, then don't blame the rival for going above and beyond him, if there are no rules set in stone😎.

I need this Viaan guy to soften up a bit, and come out of the angry young man persona and show us the humanistic side of his personality. It is intriguing for a bit, but after that it grates on my nerves🤔

That rival company offer angle has only been inserted to make Viaan's guilt deeper when he finds out the truth. That's it.. Baaki koi reason nahi hai.. Moral dilemma samajh me aata hai but flat-out rejecting the money not once but twice when she literally has no other leads and very less time makes little sense.. Pyramid people were not only giving her the money but also a job.. So under the circumstances the she's currently in, koi aisa offer nahin chhodta.. Some of her dialogues in that scene when she rejected the Pyramid offer were also a little too much.. She was like other employees might have loans and old parents and future planning so how can do this to them, main kaise decide karu kiski jarurat badi and all... I was like, behen you are the one with only a week to do this.. tu kya bol rahi hai 🤦

Originally posted by: kshitu_20

That rival company offer angle has only been inserted to make Viaan's guilt deeper when he finds out the truth. That's it.. Baaki koi reason nahi hai.. Moral dilemma samajh me aata hai but flat-out rejecting the money not once but twice when she literally has no other leads and very less time makes little sense.. Pyramid people were not only giving her the money but also a job.. So under the circumstances the she's currently in, koi aisa offer nahin chhodta.. Some of her dialogues in that scene when she rejected the Pyramid offer were also a little too much.. She was like other employees might have loans and old parents and future planning so how can do this to them, main kaise decide karu kiski jarurat badi and all... I was like, behen you are the one with only a week to do this.. tu kya bol rahi hai 🤦

Originally posted by: ruchita3179

Rival company angle is added but rejecting the offer somewhat looks unreal.I would have taken the offer.The rival company is also seems to be a prestigious company as they too are running for the big project. Viaan company not treating her well too.She should have gone & told Viaan about the offer & negotiate to get the urgent loan .I would have done that .

That's what I am saying ki uss angle ka purpose hi Katha kitni loyal aur principled hai aur Viaan ne kitna galat socha Katha ke baare me yeh dikhaana hai taaki uska guilt aur jyaada ho.. I agree with you that it looks unreal.. Katha barely has any time to arrange such a huge amount.. Koi bhi hota toh le leta despite moral dilemma..