Originally posted by: Roohani27
@Bold that ain't true. This place isn't the same anymore. 
@Bold2 what do you know about domestic violence and mental harassment?? Please don't use such sensitive topics to justify your opinion of a fictional character. Apart from some of the things he has said which are not at all justifiable what did you do that makes him an abuser? Did he ever try to force himself on her? Did anything intended to harm her? Abused her? Used/called derogatory names? Tortured her? Because that is called domestic violence and thats when people are put behind the bars. 
Glad we agree upon something but let me correct you she was seducing him wasn't trying to force herself. Its wrong but again not a crime 
@Bold3 because both have their own ways to deal with betrayal and pain. Shiva reacts impulsively and raavi behaves dumb. At least Shiva fans accept that Shiva is flawed in fact both are. Raavi isn't oh so perfect either. 
Want to highlight raavi's one dialogue here when asked her how will react if she ever sees Shiva with a random girl, she said "jaan le lungi pehle teri phir uski" now imagine this same dialogue from Shiva?! Yaha rallies nikal jaati against him for even saying sucha thing.
We can't have a healthy discussion on this until you accept the fact that raavi is flawed too and not perfect. 
Nothing personal, and sorry didn't mean to violate the thread rules I promise this is last. Could've posted it in edt but looks like one can't be a part of it unless you hate the "heera beta"
Just tell me 
There are soo many people on EDT 
Barely anyone goes personal
AT is barely used. 
Well Heera beta got kiss & hugs from Disaster
Went on Ramp walk with her, sat on bike with her, made her wear ring and would have got engaged to her too if Raavi won't have stopped it. 
Well Raavi didn't killed him or Disaster too. 
Idk why Shiva fans are talking about it 
We also got to know Heera beta got new Dewaani on shop about whom Raavi knows, still there have not been any scene where Raavi is doing anything as the line you are focusing on. 
I am doing Law 
You don't need to tell me what comes under DV 
When Shiva threw Raavi out of the house 
Remember he threw her with her suitcase
Issi per he can get arrested. 
Disaster track comes under emotional cruelty which is a ground of DV. 
The name calling she gets everyday from his mother and he never stops it, it comes under DV. 
The CA which he did soo many times that comes under Defamation jiski punishment is 2yrs imprisonment and fine too. 
You are saying doing CA is not called derogatory names. Are you serious ? 
Suman was hoping Raavi dies, she was hoping her to get harm and die. 
What are you talking about bro? 
Raavi is dumb we all know but heera beta is also no brains
Tell me last time when he used his brain
He is no better from Raavi in using brain, still Raavi doesn't harm his self respect in middle of the road. 
Again 
I have clearly said Raavi makes mistakes and I have said this several times. 
But Raavi doesn't do crime 
What Heera beta does comes under crime 
Their so called mistakes can't ever be compared. 
If you knew me you would know 
I have said this several times no person on this show is sane or who hasn't done crime. 
Still Raavi is the only one who did crime once or twice but heera beta and his mother, are the ones who does crime on regular basis and Dora ka toh kya he kaho, usne kuch sahi kiya nahi usko toh after all the kidnapping of minor is itself is such a big punishment and usne toh aur bhi bohot crime kiye hain. 
Posting this on EDT
Also why I always say heera beta as I can't insult Shivji ka naam, if you want I can change it to best ML of ITV or anything else.