Instigation is not ok but trying to choke someone is? - Page 11

Originally posted by: ayaan786

lol i dont even have a favorite for who am i getting over emotional for?

im simply disgusted at archanas action and dumb people who are defending her. imagine a guy doing that to a girl. legal actions would be taken asap and his career would be over.

allright fine i give you the long answer if you want it soo badly. i was hoping you would understand how outragous and baseless your comment was and not double down on it.

archana is affiliated with priyanka gandhis party.

shiv mocked her before that "didi khada nahi karegi"

or "tumhari harkate dekh ke didi ne tumhe party se nikal dena hai"

if you paid attention he even repeated a bit of that in the confession room

now in that CONTEXT when he said "didi main toh interest hai?" he meant it in a political sense of didi not giving archana any position in her party.

do you still want to continue the narrative that it was a homophobic comment or can we shut that down right now?

i dont think you will be able to convince anyone that it was a homophobic statement.

Favorite or not, you have a habit of attacking members. I guess you love being an edgelord on the internet but don't try it on me!

Who cares if you're disgusted? Why is everyone supposed to show the same level of disapproval on Archana's act as you? If you bothered to read my whole post, I already said what Archana did was wrong and she deserved to be evicted and shouldn't come back. So show your so called disgust to someone else!

Nothing is stopping Shiv to take legal action on Archana either. According to you people, Archana tried to choke Shiv right? That comes under attempt to murder, and women can be charged for it just like men.

As for your "long answer", yeah nice try, but no. Statements like "didi khada nahi karegi" or "tumhari harkate dekh ke didi ne tumhe party se nikal dena hai", Shiv didn't make these statements when this incident actually happened.

Here's what happened. Archana was talking to other housemates and said, "tissue boxes ghusao". Shiv jumped in the middle like a monkey, picked the word ghusao for no reason and started asking her "ghusao kya ghusao kya?" I don't know why he picked that word, again I'm assuming it had some sexual connotation.

Archana told her to not bother her and that she has no interest in talking to him. Then Shiv made that statement "Didi se interest hain kya?" That's what was shown in the episode. In this fight, before this statement, he didn't say something like, "didi khada nahi karegi" or "tumhari harkate dekh ke didi ne tumhe party se nikal dena hai". He straight up said "Didi se interest hain kya?"

So there is no "context" like you're claiming. What he said hours ago doesn't matter. He says alot of nonsense stuff all day. What he said after in the confession room doesn't matter either. Like he's such an honest person to openly accept that he made a homophobic comment lmao.

I'm not claiming that my assumption is a fact, neither I'm forcing my opinion on anyone like you're doing. Also don't worry, I would still be in peace even if nobody agrees with me. I don't come on this forum to convince people. But you won't understand that, because clearly your mentality is like, your opinion is the only "correct" opinion, and the people not agreeing with you need to be taught a lesson.

Originally posted by: kusima

Abdu himself was targeting priyanka and archana in his captaincy and archana has full right to boycott his captaincy or whatever as it's related to the game.

Also those things to gori and sumbul were not planned to provoke them to hit archana.

When did archana actually entered in someone else' fights just with the intention to instigate?

Also yes if gender is reverse then also I would say the same.

Can you actually tell me why the hell sis shiv entered the fight that has nothing to do with him and that too when he was literally sitting in another room

bold : how do you know? so shiv was planning to get archana tohit him because "trust me bro" but archana wasnt then because "trust me bro"?

yeah im kinda disgusted at you and done discussing anything. its like talking to a wall.

i dont think its worth my time.

have fun in this forum. and dont bother qouting me again since i most likely wont reply to you back.

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

Favorite or not, you have a habit of attacking members. I guess you love being an edgelord on the internet but don't try it on me!

Who cares if you're disgusted? Why is everyone supposed to show the same level of disapproval on Archana's act as you? If you bothered to read my whole post, I already said what Archana did was wrong and she deserved to be evicted and shouldn't come back. So show your so called disgust to someone else!

Nothing is stopping Shiv to take legal action on Archana either. According to you people, Archana tried to choke Shiv right? That comes under attempt to murder, and women can be charged for it just like men.

As for your "long answer", yeah nice try, but no. Statements like "didi khada nahi karegi" or "tumhari harkate dekh ke didi ne tumhe party se nikal dena hai", Shiv didn't make these statements when this incident actually happened.

Here's what happened. Archana was talking to other housemates and said, "tissue boxes ghusao". Shiv jumped in the middle like a monkey, picked the word ghusao for no reason and started asking her "ghusao kya ghusao kya?" I don't know why he picked that word, again I'm assuming it had some sexual connotation.

Archana told her to not bother her and that she has no interest in talking to him. Then Shiv made that statement "Didi se interest hain kya?" That's what was shown in the episode. In this fight, before this statement, he didn't say something like, "didi khada nahi karegi" or "tumhari harkate dekh ke didi ne tumhe party se nikal dena hai". He straight up said "Didi se interest hain kya?"

So there is no "context" like you're claiming. What he said hours ago doesn't matter. He says alot of nonsense stuff all day. What he said after in the confession room doesn't matter either. Like he's such an honest person to openly accept that he made a homophobic comment lmao.

I'm not claiming that my assumption is a fact, neither I'm forcing my opinion on anyone like you're doing. Also don't worry, I would still be in peace even if nobody agrees with me. I don't come on this forum to convince people. But you won't understand that, because clearly your mentality is like, your opinion is the only "correct" opinion, and the people not agreeing with you need to be taught a lesson.

so before i give a proper reply let me conform one thing. do you still really believe shiv made a homophobic comment even after i told you all the qoutes of him before?

ideally just answer with a yes or no

Originally posted by: ayaan786

so before i give a proper reply let me conform one thing. do you still really believe shiv made a homophobic comment even after i told you all the qoutes of him before?

ideally just answer with a yes or no

It's very much possible that it was a homophobic comment and I would've been open to change my opinion if someone had argued with me with decency. But since you can't do that and you're hell bent on changing every opinion that you don't agree with, I'll go ahead and say YES, I still think so. What would you do about it?

I wonder if archana would have stabbed shiv with knife, still people, bb n salman would've used the word 'provoking'? The biggest provoker is bb. When bb gave the chance to gautam to sacrifice every1's ration, then if Sajid would've broke not bb, but bb's house property in anger, then also would bb have used the word 'provoke'? Becoz snatching some1's food 4 whole week is also provoking. Bb himself keeps testing every1's patience. Ok i wonder what would salman say if someone from his hit n run victims' family member comes n physically attack salman? Then also will he use the word 'provoking'? Shiv did provoked archana by words n that too not on her character or he didn't spoke anything on her family or he didn't use that much derogatory words to her. Just that 'didi' was not enough reason to strangle him

But Shiv needs to tone down, he is too arrogant in first half so far.. yet to complete the full episode. I am very happy if Salman takes his class without any mercy.

Originally posted by: PangaNaLe

Instigation by bringing OUTSIDE STUFF is also against the rules. Shiv was constantly commenting on Archana's profession, political party and Priyanka Gandhi (a person who has nothing to do with this show). The fact that Shiv had to stoop low by bringing outside matters to instigate Archana, instead of sticking to what has just happened in the show, tells alot about him.

Agar ye allowed hain toh then contestants should also bring Sajid's MeToo allegations and Shalin's cases of domestic violence against him during fights and arguments. If that happens we would see how calm Tina, Sumbul, Shalin and Shiv stay, after wanting to throw Archana out of the house for losing her calm.

There is no controversy around Archana Gautam and Priyanka Gandhi which has hit headlines, n

When she can speak dirty about Maharashtra, Shiv's language and Satara ( his place of origin), why will such a thick skin contestant get triggered.

Shalin's domestic violence case was made public when Daljeet gave interviews to the media. His ex wife was a part a hugely popular show on SP. It became a media trial. For some unknown reasons or lack of proof, the court's decided to give him a clean chit and his ex dropped all charges.

Sajid's image is battered with me too accusations.

Shalin and Sajid can go insane because there is sufficient maal masala to dig out.

Whereas,

Archana joined politics in 2021 and got a ticket to contest within a yr. She is bragging about a career which has not taken off. I doubt whether Priyanka Gandhi remembers her in the first place.. This dame is using every trick in the book to remain in show. Tomorrow AR joins opposition or a national level party like BJP, is she going to do jay jaykar about her didi.

If Shiv has planned, Archana too studied mentality of BB contestants by following previous shows. She revealed about her auditions for BB. The level of preparations done from her side is equivalent to a case study.

The political angle, is just a bait for content which is used conveniently.

Archana can arm twist contestants when her profession is mentioned because she knows provocation and getting personal is a part of the game and a HM can loose the plot if he or she uses certain words which is planted in the house by the lady in question.

It was funny how Salman was forcing everyone to say they are fine to bring her again. And when he couldn't convince everyone he's like well she's coming in. BB made a fool of themselves.

I wonder if Archana was from BJP, would Shiv have guts to say bhudde ki chamchi .. Modi ki bhakt. 🤣 Waise whats wrong in saying Mumbai ya Pune ka ladka?