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Posted: 2 years ago

This was a much needed post @Moor278

You said it right that virat has committed so many crimes...either saving his family during devkit/harini revelation, shruti ,surrogacy and then siding with family letting his own family leave. Letting his wife and child go for whom he went to the extreme of agreeing to illegal surrogacy. But he is ML n whatever sahi ya galat ka rona ho...Sai will go back to him. Uski redemption kaise hogi ya nhi hogi no idea.

Sai was an accomplice to virat in surrogacy track. She should have filed police complaint but nhi kia...she is an escapist when it comes to her own feelings. She should have told Savi about virat and vice-versa that's the ethically correct part but what was the guarantee that again her daughter wouldn't be snatched from her. Here V is also right as vinu didn't survive the accident so he had every right to know about his daughter...but again the question would he be able to give security to Sai that history won't be repeated ...NO...NEVER BECAUSE ITS HIS INHERIT CHARACTER....ME GOD

Sai to too righteous and hence both of them are wrong but virat has turned into the villain of the story. Sai's mistakes are the least and even her actions appear right in the given circumstances. Virat is weaker as a character than Sai.

Regarding your thought about pakhi...did feel bad about her in the beginning as a woman. But...but more than that actions matter. She asked for forgiveness and once got assurance that sai isn't coming back...she never went again to Sai for that...neither did anything substantial. She maybe positive for now...but for me is a selfish woman only. Matlab nikal gya to bhagado Sai ko. Matlab thha to le ayi. Abhi asli imtihaan of didi begins...as a woman wo sab chahti thhi jo Sai ka thha. Abhi maa hone ki duhaai deti thhi...me waiting k kia sath degi woh Sai ka as a mother.

P.S. NO OFFENCE TO ANYONE

Regarding V jo kar raha hai nhi kar raha...bhaad mei jaye...vanku ko nhi padi...actors ko nhi padii...hum kiu stress lei aur kisi ko dei😆. Moor best part of your post to delink Virat/Neil...nhi hoga...know...ya nhi ho sakta

Edited by Nirip - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

I don’t think sai and virat will be d endgame

Sai’s savage and vengeance which was shown in d precap is for her war against virat and his family and this is paving way for a new male lead and his family and he will support sai in her lows

I read somewhere on insta page whether real or fake but they wrote that casting for new entry is going on with d team

I hope this comes true and chavans will slowly take their exit except virat and pakhi and parallels will be shown between new family and chavans how they treated sai

Edited by Dewdrops1995 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Nirip

This was a much needed post @Moor278

You said it right that virat has committed so many crimes...either saving his family during devkit/harini revelation, shruti ,surrogacy and then siding with family letting his own family leave. Letting his wife and child go for whom he went to the extreme of agreeing to illegal surrogacy. But he is ML n whatever sahi ya galat ka rona ho...Sai will go back to him. Uski redemption kaise hogi ya nhi hogi no idea.

Sai was an accomplice to virat in surrogacy track. She should have filed police complaint but nhi kia...she is an escapist when it comes to her own feelings. She should have told Savi about virat and vice-versa that's the ethically correct part but what was the guarantee that again her daughter wouldn't be snatched from her. Here V is also right as vinu didn't survive the accident so he had every right to know about his daughter...but again the question would he be able to give security to Sai that history won't be repeated ...NO...NEVER BECAUSE ITS HIS INHERIT CHARACTER....ME GOD

Sai to too righteous and hence both of them are wrong but virat has turned into the villain of the story. Sai's mistakes are the least and even her actions appear right in the given circumstances. Virat is weaker as a character than Sai.

Regarding your thought about pakhi...did feel bad about her in the beginning as a woman. But...but more than that actions matter. She asked for forgiveness and once got assurance that sai isn't coming back...she never went again to Sai for that...neither did anything substantial. She maybe positive for now...but for me is a selfish woman only. Matlab nikal gya to bhagado Sai ko. Matlab thha to le ayi. Abhi asli imtihaan of didi begins...as a woman wo sab chahti thhi jo Sai ka thha. Abhi maa hone ki duhaai deti thhi...me waiting k kia sath degi woh Sai ka as a mother.

P.S. NO OFFENCE TO ANYONE

Regarding V jo kar raha hai nhi kar raha...bhaad mei jaye...vanku ko nhi padi...actors ko nhi padii...hum kiu stress lei aur kisi ko dei😆. Moor best part of your post to delink Virat/Neil...nhi hoga...know...ya nhi ho sakta


Ive been reading everyone's thoughts on this and to it seems like everyone is almost saying the same thing just in their own way....


BOTH leads think they are right in their own minds but BOTH have made mistakes....the gravity of each of their mistakes can be judged by the individual fan/audience ....some may find Sais mistakes extreme ( not many) some may find V's extreme (Majority are here)

When ppl review or analyze the episode they give their insight what they think happened....what they thnk are the REASONS behind someones actions- this doesn't mean they are siding with the character or justifying the characters mistakes. They are trying to understand the story and where it may possibly lead


Sai has made mistakes but Sai's conscience is telling her she made mistakes....that scene at the bus station with random ppl accusing her was a CLEAR indication of that....the problem is we are not getting the same from V his conscience or his "soul self" that he talks to hasn't made an appearance to show what mistakes hes making and how wrong it is. and that has an audience is frustrating so agreed we don't see any emotion other than hate from V towards Sai right now....because right now he is solely functioning as a baba who just found out he has a biological child that was kept from him he doesn't care WHY at this point he just cares that he got her NOW and will go to extremes to keep it that way....and this may continue for a few days....as many have mentioned while analyzing V he can only do one thing at a time and right now its being Savi's Baba nothing else....not DCP, not Ps hubby not Sais scorned lover not a son....and possibly not even Vinus baba at this point....some on this forum have a belief that in time this will change ( I myself think so too) but that in no way means anyone is justifying Vs behaviour OR giving him excuses that this is because he "loves Sai" right now its not about loving Sai or not its just about Savi



sorry for the rant on your post lol


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Posted: 2 years ago

I am at a stage in Ghum where morality can go out of the window. Give me what I signed up for. Super sasta drama.

Also, I am not a Jagatpati. So I am not big into TV show ka moral responsibility hai. Cigarettes are bad for lungs. Everyone knows that toh koi dharna leke baithta hai kya factory ke saamne “where is your moral responsibility karke.” Woh unka business hai and Ghum Is inka.

I know stoooopid example and no comparison but bottom line is not everyone seeks moral responsibility from a TV show.

Response to your rant, dear moor

Edited by nutmeg7 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Devil shows the ugly face!


They say that there is both good and evil within us, It is upon us to choose. it is not just about holding on to goodness in adversities, but also about not letting the evil take over that make one virtuous and strong. Yes, V is not a strong character and whereas Sai has been able to maintain her goodness in all her miseries. Despite being cheated on (from her POV), she always thought well of V and his family. Even P, the woman who destroyed her family.


Sai - Yeh aapki masoom shakal na duniya ke liye rakhiya, kyonki aapka asli aur ghinona chehra main ache se pehchanti hoon

So true. Sai has been the target and has been subjected to that dark side of V. V has been this guy who suffers from "Mahaan" syndrome. He goes out of his way to prove that he is the most selfless and virtuous person who will do anything for anyone..even strangers. But Sai is the one who has seen the true Virat, who can be complete opposite. He can be so vengeful and cruel in his anger that it can compete well or rather overshadow his goodness.

See goodness is definitely preferred. But if one can't be good but just be, that is also acceptable as long as one doesn't harm others.

Sai has seen his love and she is now seeing his hatred. There may have been misunderstanding. I agree that Sai is also at fault in not informing V about Savi, but nothing, warrantees such a behaviour.

In his insecurity and jealousy, he has already character assassinated her, called her names, and now got her arrested. Not a flicker of guilt or sadness on that face. Contrary to Sai who was thinking about not breaking his marriage. Yes, Sai is a white character, and V is not, but today he is no longer grey, he is dark. And today he makes himself even more unworthy of being Savi's father. He first used his physical power and forcefully took her mother away and then character assassinated her. And then he snatched away the child from the mother. How does he qualify to be a father to Savi? And how does such an extremely temperamental guy be safe for a child's upbringing? Today, Sai's wrong is completely taken over V's ugly side.


V we have spoken about has gone back to that same point when Sai left. His grief of losing Sai is no longer there with Sai's return, but he still mourns Vinu. To his defence he is reliving that moment again. And does not want to let go of Savi. But, that did not call for such an extreme step. No arguments.

He is someone who only hears what he wants to listen. Exactly why he liked P. She says exactly what he wants to hear. And we saw that again in the revelation episode with JM. He wanted Savi to be his daughter. He heard only that. Sai, her loyalty, his own ego and doubts, nothing was registered. He only heard that Savi missed her father, and the recollection of moments that connected to that. He thinks the desperation he saw in Savi means that she only wants him and can survive without Sai once she has him. WOW. Whoever made him a DCP? Intelligence is par excellence. Or is he even thinking about Savi? He blamed Sai for not thinking about Savi while hiding the truth. Did he think about it when he took Savi away from Sai? He is only thinking about himself. ONLY HIM. Not even Savi.

Yesterday, when V blamed her for being the reason that they lost their son, she said "Ye hai aapka asli chehra". It was a continuation to all the accusations he levied on her when she had left. For spoiling his life to the death of Sam. @Sadhika - like you mentioned about Sai's conversation with KJ "That is was the thorn in his life". He more or less told her so that day. And she felt unsaid part was P. His frustration at the life denied with P due to her. And so, she without any malice wished them happiness. As a mother Sai is guilty of losing Vinu as well. And she does feel herself responsible. But she now sees a side of V, who portrays something when he feels completely opposite. For he only faked his care, and the truth was out when he actually held her responsible for Sam's death.

For Vinu he didn’t hold back. Has blamed her right from the beginning. This is why she did not return. Because she realised that V only lies and in truth he will blame her for Vinu's death, just like Sam.

The fact is if Sai took Vinu away, V didn’t stop her and prioritise them either. Both wrong at this point. Accident was destiny, Sai didn’t cause it, neither V. But the blame is on Sai.

Now we don't know what Sai suffered and how she delivered Savi. But either ways, it wouldn’t have been easy. Yes, if V was around he would have supported and she may not have suffered so much. Again, I'm not saying Sai is right, but, does that negate the fact that he is nothing more than a sperm donor at this point. Sai could have chosen to abort a child. What then? She chose to bring her to this world. Just using the same argument "If you had not" like Sai is being accused for Vinu's loss. Maybe Sai would have never been able to deliver Savi.


The point is that V's behaviour didn’t come as a shock because of the BTS. And it was conscious step. To dilute the strong reactions of his actions. V could have definitely fought with Sai as a father, but snatching a sleeping child and getting the mother arrested was horrible. Using his power and position to render a mother helpless, pleading to be with her child, was so inhumane.

The only scene I would credit him today was "Savi meri aur Sai ki beti hai". For a brief second he acknowledged that Sai was the mother. Apart from that there was nothing he said or did that even showed that he registered that fact. And this guy claims to have loved her.

Now it looks like a sham, only for the world to see and keep him in good books. And his act to marry P. Can you blame Sai if she doubts that?


Tomorrow will be all of ZA and more name calling of Sai. And V going around fretting over an ill Savi and hyper ventilating P. Chavans will only want Sai to stay away and P to take over Savi's upbringing as her mother. I won't be surprised if V agrees too. He anyways holds her in high regards and Sai..well is worthless. If this goes this way, not far when he says he regrets that he married Sai instead of P.

I'm only looking forward to a strong Sai returning and beating the hell out of the power obsessed V. Let her file bigamy, physical abuse and

Looks like Sai vowing and returning will not happen before Thu-Fri. character assassination. The world should know the truth of this so called virtuous man. The truth that only Sai has seen!

P had said that she will pay off Sai's debt. I hope she is not the one who gets her out. I wouldn’t want that, considering Sai had got her arrested. It doesn’t play right. I hope Ninad has the sense. If he could do that for P once, why not for Sai.

V is the same guy who got P out on bail for trying to harm Sai and today he got Sai arrested for trying to meet her own daughter. What do we even make out of this man. Like Sadhika said "Paradoxical". He tortures the one he claims to love the most. Never have I seen V be so insensitive to V or anyone. You don't treat someone like this even if they are taken for granted as they are your own.

If this is what becomes of him if he has finally become a father, then "Save the child".

PS - On a lighter note, I felt that he said "Savi meri aur Sai ki beti hai" to ensure no one pulls him up for bigamy or straying. With Sai being the mother he at least got himself clear.

Just wanted to keep the humour with such highly toxic episode

Edited by Sherry24 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

I just want to say Ghum captures how life happens. No one can expect what life throws at you. When placed in a situation, you take decision based on your mental state and understanding of people around you at that point of time. You make some assumptions and will be ready to take chances. With all this in mind, you make a decision which might change your life. The important thing is what is the intention behind those decision. Is the decision made to cause harm to someone, protect someone, disturpt peace, make peace? That tells you whether you are good or bad.

The more responsible person you are, the tough choices you have to make. Sai and Virat both are responsible people. They own their decisions and their mistakes. Thats why they are capable of taking tough decisions. People like Pakhi, and others will wait for circumstances to make a choice for them or if they make any decision it will revolve only around them. We have seen Pakhi's choices after Samrat's death. She wanted to write her destiny and she did it in a pathetic way. Thats the difference between SaiRat and her. Sai's decisions have higher rate of success because she doesnt mix emotions. Her sense of truth prevails most of the time. Virat succumbs.

Edited by sadiltl - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

I am at a stage in Ghum where morality can go out of the window. Give me what I signed up for. Super sasta drama

You made us all Zen woman…

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Posted: 2 years ago

My thought on today's episode on Pg 34

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Originally posted by: kashmayurfan

You made us all Zen woman…

I am glad, sweetie. Btw I have added more two rupees gyaan over there. 🤣 No one cares except me though 🤣
Edited by nutmeg7 - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

MUJHE INSAAF CHAHIYE


Where did all the Chavans go when V was beating Jagtap and Savi's father was revealed just in front of the house with the door wide open? Now everyone gathered worrying V havent returned home? Chota baccha hai kya? Ooo..Jagtap aaya tha na. Vinu is confident V will agree to his wish and Savi will not leave without telling him. Sonali as usual need to spit venom against Sai and Savi then only she will get aaram. Again chuhiya😡😡.


'Savi aur uski aai humari kuch nahi lagte..unke saath na hamara koi rishta tha aur na kabhi hoga'

Rishta tha tabhi toh hoga. They will have to acknowledge Sai then only Savi will follow.


DCP went in his car, took another police officer's bike and left his car in the middle of the road, then left the bike at bus station and went home in a cab. What happened to his car and the bike?

Chant toh yeh DCP hai. He know Sai will come for her child. So he called police and set a trap for her.


Vinu is the happiest baba fulfilled his wish. He ran to V and Savi, and got more excited to celebrate. V and Sai was shouting with Savi sleeping in his arms, now he tells everyone to speak slowly? He even shuts BK and tells them to not pareshan Savi. Chavans face was worth watching especially P. She was worried V might have gone to Sai and he returned home with Savi being all protective and caring of the child.


Bacchi ki tabiyat kharab hai, but P needs answer about Sai and Savi before getting fever syrup for Savi. Vinu showed genuine concern for Savi. Went to get thermometer at once and asked whats the temperature. Mother P should know what needs to be done when a child has fever, or it is reserved only for Vinu? V had to remind her again, and added cloth and water into his order. Vinu too offered to lie beside Savi. Poor P, pati and beta gave no bhav to her and cared for Savi only😭. She was happy Sai loved and cared for Vinu, now V and Vinu are caring for Savi, and she is not happy? Because Savi is Sai ki beti?


The Chavan ladies stayed awake through the night and sat in ZA waiting for chai? Atleast Vinu and Harini changed. Doesnt Sonali have other dialog? Chal, chant


Sai figured out V had put hawaldars to stop her. He keeps going lower in Sai's eyes. How thoughtful of V to deny its doctor auntie's voice and told Vinu to look after Savi😊.

'Main Savi ka dada hoon na, main Savi ko kabhi akeli nahi chodunga'

❤️


The hawaldars are so loyal to their DCP's order. Didnt even listen to Sai or P. Everyone was surprised V snatched Savi from Sai. Snatching is reserved for Sai na?


'Main uss aadmi ko chodnewali nahi hoon..agar meri beti ko kuch hua na toh main iss parivar ko chodne wali nahi hoon'

The mention of parivar got BK triggered.


'Tum mera aur mera parivar ka kuch nahi bhigad sakti'

'Mujhse mat uljho Virat'

🔥🔥🔥


'Yeh aapki maasum shakal na duniya keliye rakhiye, kyunki apka asli aur ghinona chehra main acche se pehchanti hoon'

Me wants Sai to show his real face to the world.


'Savi sirf tumhari beti nahi, meri bhi beti hain..Sai aur meri beti'

I sooo wanted to see Chavans reaction to this, especially P. The ground underneath her feet slipped. She is suffocating. Mazaa aaya. Why did P react as if her husband had a child out of an affair? Its her devar having a child with his wife.


'Savi aajtak sirf meri saath rahiye'

'Lekin aabse meri saath rahegi'

Savi kiske saath rehna chahthi hain?


'Agar mujhe meri beti ko wapas lejane keliye aapni jaan bhi deni pade na, toh bhi main piche nahi hatungi'

'Uski zaroorat hi nahi padegi'

V knows Sai will do whatever it takes to get Savi. Sai as a mother has the rights over Savi. So he played dirty. Got Sai arrested on false charges, except for 'raising hand' on an on duty officer. It was unintentional, the officer was stopping Sai was from getting to her daughter. Misusing his power as DCP.

The officers saw the DCP enter the house with a child and admitting Sai is the child's mother, yet they followed his order. Loyalty towards superior rather than law?


The shot of Vinu taking care of Savi had my heart❤️. He had really accepted Savi as his sister, unaware of it being their true bond.


By Sai's shouting neighbors should have come and watched the tamasha too. Where have all the neighbors gone since leap?


Warning: rant ahead

I cried by the end of yesterday's episode and today's episode too. Few were crying, few were shaking their head but nobody did anything to stop V. I had expectation from at least Ninad and Pulkit. Hope they will make it up in the coming episode. BK will forget parivar ka naam and izzat card which she conveniently use when the family does crime, when it comes to Sai. Ashwini was holding on to her favorite bahu as if she is the one being wronged even when she tried to stop the arrest.

Ashwini, BK and Sonali have been mean to Savi. What will they do now? Forget all about it and put all the blame on Sai like they always do?

This is not just about stopping Sai from taking Savi away from him. If V thought by keeping Savi away from him and Savi away from her father was wrong then he is doing the same, with vengeance. Sai got P arrested and V went to bail her in few hours. Sai was wronged and he made Sai as the wrong one. Now that he is in the same position, he becomes right and Sai wrong. Wah..such double standard👏. One good thing is Sai's guilt for not telling V about Savi is now off her shoulder. Whatever reason Sai had for not telling V about Savi becomes right today for her.

Edited by purplegirl7 - 2 years ago

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