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Posted: 3 years ago
#81

Moor I agree with everything that you've written.


I only wish the writing could have been more crisp and tight.


Yaha Vankar is hellbent on spoiling characters to justify shoddy writing.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: msin

The promo did not say anything like that .. it showed Virat giving credit to patralekha for being a good mother to vinu .. abd that’s why Vinayak has been able to walk .. and patralekha says what about Dr Sai .. Virat says she did her duty as a doctor ..nothing else ..Sai has gone to reveal about Savi to virat and she gets shocked at this ..now my hunch is Virat already has enough interactions with Savi n Sai to know that Savi is his daughter .. but he has shown zero inclination to dig dip and find out. Maybe makers are waiting for the moment when virat n pakhi to do it once then only Virat will come to know .. nothing else makes sense

to do it once? Matlab they will? It means there's no hope all doors closed for leads? Sai as a female lead has upper hand always bcz she is mother of his kids right then how can they do it 😟🙃

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Moor278

Absolutely...

Saavis truth is indeed a victory for V over Sai.

Mentioned it few days back, for V Sai is like conquest... and Saavi Vinu are the loot from that war...

So he will get to Sai for the kids... question is when will he realize his mistakes...

My hunch is on kids... there's a reason they are made super smart and inquisitive... they won't let V go easily. 👍🏼


@bold I'm counting on this too Moor.


The kids really carry their brains and hearts in right places unlike CNwasis.


We could spot much in the dusshera track. Ye bacche itne jaldi kisi ko nahi chhodne wale.


In fact when Vinu was all ga ga about Savi and BK was constantly making faces and cutting in, Vinu didn't give a damn. Uska savi aalaap chalta raha 😂


I think this too tells a lot.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Moor278

Absolutely...

Saavis truth is indeed a victory for V over Sai.

Mentioned it few days back, for V Sai is like conquest... and Saavi Vinu are the loot from that war...

So he will get to Sai for the kids... question is when will he realize his mistakes...

My hunch is on kids... there's a reason they are made super smart and inquisitive... they won't let V go easily. 👍🏼

Yes true.

Vinu should put n virats head that Sai always advised me to be with u both, how can savi come home without her mother?

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Vinu knows how much Sai loves Savi.

He will surely advice Savi.

But anyways now that Vinu s repeatedly told that VP are his parents and he tried to run away , so Virat will be police uncle only to Savi. He can't hurt Vinu any.more.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Moor278

I partially agree with all of you...


Sai didn't really have a point from leaving V if she was waiting for him... it's something that I have mentioned repeatedly... that there's no point in waiting for someone when you willingly left. And then hiding the same fact from the daughter in a way troubling yourself and herself more. Sai could have told Saavi that I have had a fight with your father and he is not coming back. That way her guilt and Saavis pain would be less.


Sai is not a person to hold a grudge... she sees good in others. Her response to P as a mother is an example of that. If V comes out clean, she will forgive him too. So why didn't she call and inform him about Saavi? Even if she believed that for V only Vinu mattered... wouldn't Saavi matter too?

Her whole idea of I will not inform but he should come for me seems hollow because it goes against her core character.

A counter point is... Sai didn't knew V was suicidal. What if V had been successful in one of his attempts... wouldn't Sai ka guilt would be humongous when she would come to know later???? It's also why I want her to have placed a call to CN to inform him but couldn't get through or was shot down and hence her anger.

Even now after V tells her I thought you were dead, she dismisses it harshly.. makes me wonder if she did try to call and heard something else.

The way Sai behaves or is so forgiving of V even now... when he has married P... doesn't sit with the Sai who found out she was pregnant.


That said... I don't think she would have had an easy life in CN if she had stayed back... they would have kept P's control over Vinu more and V would have acquisiced. It might have even led to a second miscarriage.😭


The correct action would be to stay in Nagpur if not in CN.

Assert her rights and get a restraining order.. (which should have happened in the surrogacy itself... The plain paper sign was a stupidity)

Or stay back in CN and make sure P is punished.

P was out on bail...she was not cleared of her acts. Her case was pending and Sai would have succeeded if the case had played out.


The accident was a mishap... but it luckily gave a clean chit to BK, V and P... with the plaintiff dead... The case was closed and everyone was saved.

V retained his job... P became the Adarsh bahu and BK became a politician. CN ka kuch nuksaan nahi hua.. Sai aur Saavi ka hua...


Sure she couldn't have predicted all this but the way everything happened was a very juvenile way to bring out seperation.

It was not something which warranted such intense action from Sai and V... they had weathered much bigger storms... this could have been talked about easily over time.


But it was done to bring the leap and justify post leap nonsense...

I would suggest we leave it at that.

All this discussion is an unending loop and lots of ifs and buts.

Sai character is fluctuated to accommodate virat character.

No consistency in her character.

Atleast virat is consistent in being douchebag to sai since shruti track. Sai running behind him in shruti track gave him enough confidence to take her for granted and treat her as shit.

If sai feels virat failed her as husband and father of her kid, then why the hell she was waiting for him and indirectly keep giving hopes to her daughter about her father.

Her big big dialogues about building hospital remained just words after virat coming into picture.

They want to show leap so they showed sai suddenly leaving virat when till that time she acted as submissive wife to him no matter how much he mistrusted her and mistreated her.

Now they want sairat end game, their mysogynist mind won't allow them to show ml redemption, so only way to show end game is to make sai submissive, create situations where she feels guilty and praises her abusers by forgetting everything.

Now too only she is feeling guilty for keeping savi from virat. So that she can silently face the humiliation from virat and his family after the truth revelation. They didn't gave proper reason why she didn't inform virat about savi, is it the fear of him seperating savi from her like he did with vinu, or the fact that he is a failed husband and father (if this is the reason then she shouldn't be waiting for him), they made it like she hide the truth because of ego when she has many other valid reasons.

All this set up to make sai guilty and face humiliation.

While zero introspection from virat side. Instead he has the nerve to say she left him just because he stood by his so called family for only ONCE.

Always why this one sided narrative, if they r not gonna make their ml held accountable for his wrong actions then why the hell they made him act so disgusting at first place.

He will do all type of wrong doings but will play victim card, gets whitewashed by fl, some action scenes. That's it.

How one supposed to connect with such character.

And always forgiving and whitewashing him affects sai character. Her individuality and consistency got lost.

Both lead characters would have watchworthy if they atleast show 3-4 months for ml redemption. Instead of choosing whitewashing and narrative change.

But neither virat's extreme disguisting acts towards Sai makes sense nor sai forgiving and praising him after all he made her went through makes sense.

There is no love story here, it is only a story of a woman being comprised and adjusted according to a man . Their dream sequences or one two fancy dialogues of ml are superficial when there is no EQUALITY in this relationship.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikita05

Or will they?

They can be angry with their mom for leaving their dad and keeping them away, especially Savi who is in aww of her police uncle... though i would love him to be police uncle only after truth revelation as well... Vinu can also start calling him uncle after truth revelation to show his anger and hurt.

After savi truth revelation, it will be savi blaming sai for keeping her dad away from her and wanting to live in CN. She don't mind going with virat WITHOUT her mother and so impressed with his house and family despite getting insulted by that house elders. So they will make sai live in CN for savi sake. They will definitely show sai in CN. Because there are many parallel scenes they have to recreate especially virat closing his and pakhi bedroom door on sai face.

There is no way that kids will get to know why sai had to leave the house, only Sai can tell them but she won't. Remaining all characters including Usha thinks it is sai fault. So they will tell kids, virat sai had a fight, sai left house but everyone thought she died in accident so he had to marry Pakhi for vinu sake. This narrative is favourable to virat. So there is no way kids will be against to virat.

I am not even being negative, going by ghum records this will definitely happen.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Arey baba they haven’t done it yet .. it is my conjecture.. that inspite of so many clear indications.. that Savi belongs to virat .. nobody is voicing it out



I had thought Kaku , ashwini someone will say .. can she be virat’s child .. but over here they are not even considering the possibility.. it’s like Virat barely even know Sai ..

She was his wife and both were cohabiting in front of them ..how can they not even talk about it ..




Savi should question them .. if you are my own blood how did u not even recognise me .. that’s why I feel the creatives want to reach a particular moment between V and P .. before Savi truth is out

Edited by msin - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: msin

Arey baba they haven’t done it yet .. it is my conjecture.. that inspite of so many clear indications.. that Savi belongsi to virat .. nobody is voicing it out



I had thought Kaku , ashwini someone will say .. can she be virat’s child .. but over here they are not even considering the possibility.. it’s like Virat barely even know Sai ..

She was his wife and both were cohabiting in front of them ..how can they not even talk about it ..




Savi should question them .. if you are my own blood how did u not even recognise me .. that’s why I feel the creatives want to reach a particular moment between V and P .. before Savi truth is out

But virat loves Sai only right,nd u saying they'll reach such situation but won't happen anything right? Bcz thabi savi ka sach pata chalega virat ko, p.s.i don't get his expressions when they were asking abt bhai/behen ke baarein mein socho the looks he was giving to that vamp patralekha I didn't get it 🙃

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Yes it looks weird ep.if it would be other show lead male gets hint or doubt about savi's father but here ramlila served no purpose for virat 's common sense. It was only to create fear of losing savi in Sai's heart.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Episode 649...

Drag again after the euphoria of two beautiful episodes.

Ghum ka stamina itna hi hai 😆


The skit is basically to drive up Sai's turmoil.

The kids running away to find their respective parents, them getting into a life threatening trouble and thankfully coming out unscathed has affected the mother Sai.

She is not even thinking of V as a husband or as a lover... it's only father V that she is worried about.

And the big hearted woman that she is ... she is keeping Vinu's wish more than her own daughter. Will come to this later.


The skit plays out exactly how Sai's life is... her struggles, her pain and her hurt. We shouldn't treat it as Ramayan. It's like Devi-Harini skit just played using the context of Ramayan.

Ram in the skit accepts both the kids... V will too but Sai/Sita ka status is left unclear. She is standing away.

Will she go back to him? Skit Sita goes away. 😭

Is it deliberate? Yes it is.... to keep the suspense alive.

CN gang is blind to the parallels... but it looks like P is finally making the connect to the situation and is insecure. That was pretty much clear from her expressions. A job well done.

V notices Sai ke tears properly but doesn't ask her. I wish he had... maybe later he will. The shot was deliberately lingering. It has to have some meaning.


CN is crap as usual. Vinu is back to his happy state and is not worried about his birth parents.

Sai and Saavi rule his heart and his mind. He disregards BK's opinions about Saavi and continues fanboying over Saavi. Also credits Saavi for bringing him closer to his adoptive parents. Tells them she is his sis now and he will do everything to protect her. ❤️

As of now... for Vinu... sab changa si...

His demeanour has a marked change and the reserved shy Vinu is more confident and assertive. Sai could convince him and he agrees. It signifies her hold over him. 👍🏼

His assurance that he will protect Saavi might be important when Saavi faces her own turmoil of looking for her father. As per precap Saavi has asked V of something. Maybe she asked him to search for her father. Vinu will support Saavi like she did him.

Even in the skit, it is Saavi who is asking the question and Vinu is being the supportive brother. That's the story for next few days.

The makers are nicely establishing the sibling bond. I hope they don't show them breaking. It might happen that someone will manipulate Vinu or later after Saavis arrival, BK will prefer and love Saavi more... but at which point their bond will be relevant.

I hope the makers preserve the innocence and purity of this. Fingers crossed 🤞

Rest of the CN is blissfully unaware of the crap they are spewing. The kind of Paltu Ash is... I so wish she questions BK when Saavis truth is known.

They are masking their wish for a biological child in name of Vinu's wish. V is still not taking the Bait. Doesn't look like he will if Saavi ka search occupies him.


After the skit, Saavi tells Sai that she felt that V is her father.

Till now Saavi was wishing for a father like V... now she actually hopes for a father V. Makes one sad to see a little girl being subjected to this.

Sais fears manifest in her nightmare.

Interestingly V in the dream is smiling... but is silent, not letting Saavi go either. This is what Sai imagines his reaction will be... what if it's different?


She wakes up and UM consoles her.

The dilemma is out in open now... The skit played badly for Sai. She is operating as a mother and she recognized the mother in P... Sai has also accepted the VP relationship...

She understands that divulging Saavis truth will hamper the VP and Vinu bond. And she might still prefer to keep it to herself. She may not divulge. As an orphan Sai very well understands the pain of losing a parent. She will prefer Saavi to be a single parent child rather than to break up the happy family of Vinu.

Will say it again... right now Sai P and V are parents. They are thinking only of their kids and have kept their own issues on the backburner. Sai and P are better sorted than V. V is still stuck at husband/lover mode jisko Sai chod ke gai thi


Mohit acted in a play... Sonali made an observation that Mohit is on stage after so many days. Will the return of Sai see the return of Mohit to his one true hobby? And will that help patch him up with Karishma. I guess. 👍🏼


Precap is V breaking the fourth wall and terming Sais decision as zidd. It's triggering to some degree yet not really.

When a character breaks 4th wall, they directly interact with the audience... it's for an information which only the audience is privy off. V saying Sai ki zidd is his perception of her. He hasn't recognised his fault. Because he has not grown up into a father yet. He might get some sense if he brings it up to Sai.

It has to happen after the reveal. He will be a hulk for sometime but will have to change ways.

Also the episode suggests that Sai won't disclose, UM is the next bet. But she is a side character... so the only person who could reveal this to V is Jags. SB was on set... so most probably V will meet Jags.

I don't think he will disclose either but might drop some hints and maybe we will get some FBs of Sais life.

If the reference to Ramayan is continued, Jags is the Valmiki indeed.

And kids won't forgive V easily. 👍🏼. They will stick together.

I still don't think this is like Shruti track and even if it is it's in reverse. Even if what many believe, Saavi goes with V and they become a close knit family with Sai left alone??? It won't happen because of TRP and that's not the bigger story. And even if it happens... what more is left to show... either they would have to get a new ML or show a court case for Sai... both of which don't seem to be happening... so it's going to be similar to Shruti track but in reverse. Sai won't go after V... not now when he is married to P and of he takes Saavi with him, it would be a wounded tigress who will come to forefront. Which doesn't seem possible either.


Sai V looked so proud and happily smiling together to see their kids ke antics... totally gave Parents enjoying annual function wale vibes 😌

Edited by Moor278 - 3 years ago

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