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Popcorn nikaalo...Sai is back in Nagpur!

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Popcorn nikaalo...Sai is back in Nagpur!

But why is she back? Pakhi says she doesnt know why she is back! suspense again

Love and Anger

Personal opinion, V truly loves Sai. She invokes emotions in him that he doesn't have for anyone else. He deals with everyone in softer way... just like he behaves with P, he is same with BK, Omi, Ash even when he knows they are wrong.

But his anger is reserved only for Sai and now it has shifted to Vinu. Because those are the only two he feels are his own. And that comes from love. V is hurting Vinu the same way he used to hurt Sai, by ignoring his wishes and needs and more so because it involves Sai.

Its twisted and weird but that's V ka love... narcissistic to a point that he doesn't bother about the pain he gives to his loved ones.

BK, P have never had this experience because they don't matter as such. The haq is only on those that he is deeply attached to.

P.S. Not justifying him, but this is what I felt. Have seen examples of men going extreme just because they weren't appreciated or heeded too. V falls in that category even though his intention is not that.

Trust and Faith

V ka anger is because of his insecurities. He has never cleared to Sai - in words... what she means to him. But they both trust each other when the situation demands. They have that faith on each other that even in inadvertent circumstances, the other will stand up for them. Sai trusts V since the beginning, she got married to him even when she hated him. He trusts her honesty and her good nature. Sai also knows that he is trustworthy when it comes to her. Even with so much bad blood between them, Sai trusted him enough in Saavi ka kidnapping to take help from him and let him do the job. He upheld her faith by saving Saavi.

But Sai knows she cannot trust V when it comes to his other family members and especially P. Where he fails and he broke her faith was in surrogacy and everything that happened post that. She kept her trust in him above everything else, even her self respect and he broke it again and again. He failed her immensely. He overestimated her trust and lost her.

The sad part is there is no introspection on this aspect yet from his side. It needs to come before they can move ahead.

Miscommunication

This stems from the trust factor. If they trust each other so much and know each other so well, why do they fail? Because of miscommunication. Both of them have some quirks and insecurities which were never addressed till the pre leap fight. It was here that everything came out and it was a detox of sorts. for them to move ahead, it was needed, otherwise a next issue would have brought them back to that edge where they would separate. This miscommunication or lack of communication is also the reason they cannot move on and keep getting back with each other. But it only resolves a part of it. post leap situation is ripe for a clean slate. only if these two are ready to sit down and talk.

Karma

All of this is finally affecting their Karma.

Sai lived through hers by losing Vinu and staying alone and suffering.

V seemingly had everything but he was not in a condition to accept it. And since his crimes are more, his loss is greater.

V had the father experience during surrogacy but not the husband experience which he wanted with Sai.

Sai had the mother experience with Saavi but not wifey one with V.

Both lost on that aspect.

V sort of redeemed his karma to some bit by adopting Vinu and genuinely loving him.

But his wrongdoings are too much and now even when he comes to know that Saavi is his daughter, he wont be able to claim her or exercise his fatherly duties on her until he clears up his mess of marriage.

So V didn't have any growing up memories or experience initial baby years of fatherhood with both his kids. And that's his punishment.

Very well described. See, they kept brushing and avoiding things. They did not have a proper communication about anything. An emotional communication, where they express their insecurities and assure each other.

So many past incidents are just stuck in their minds.

Virat took sai for granted after the confession. He thought that she'll never leave. Sai told him that she won't.

So, he thought that, he can literally do anything and sai will never leave.

He was extremely shocked when sai said that I'll leave with my kid. Because, he had not imagined that even in his wildest dreams.

Introspection is needed for realisation.

Both heed to COMMUNICATE and understand what went wrong and then have a journey of solving things and standing together.

Savi and vinu are the catalyst. They might even become the cause of rifts in the future, but temporarily.

That'll only bring sairat closer.

Also, agree with you about sai bringing out virat's emotions. They are reserved for Sai.

Completely aligned with you on the Karma hits Sadhika.

The fact that ways of Karma are mostly twisted and not seemingly as simple or direct as we seek or read it as. It is said that the fruits of the deeds of one is borne by the spouse and the children. It is clearly seen here.

Sai and V both have their share of wrong. Unlike SH track V is the major culprit who has brought upon this misfortune on himself ans his family. Hence, he suffered the most in it, and Sai being his life partner was casted over with the same cover. But she was given Savi as a light in her darkness. Savi and Vinu are also suffering as an outcome of the choices/mistakes of V. Savi is yearning for her father, while Vinu is seeking his mother's warmth. While Vinu did get father's love, he still feels it like a favour for which he is indebted rather than a right, an entitlement ...due to the "orphan" status. This I feel is the not just because of V, but because he sprouted to life in P's womb and got attached to her share of Karma.

So in smaller or larger degree each one has has Karma visiting them in his own complex manner. But for it all to be settled the family has to unite. The irony is that while V brought this upon them, without him the happiness and the family is incomplete. While he settled a considerable part with the loss of his wife and son, but with V continuing his mistakes, his punishment, regret and repentance is due again. And in that phase too the other 3 will be pulled into it involuntarily. The fact that while V suffers they will not find that complete happiness. They will have to wait till V pays up for his deeds.

Unfairly fair!

Originally posted by: Moor278

Love and Anger

Personal opinion, V truly loves Sai. She invokes emotions in him that he doesn't have for anyone else. He deals with everyone in softer way... just like he behaves with P, he is same with BK, Omi, Ash even when he knows they are wrong.

But his anger is reserved only for Sai and now it has shifted to Vinu. Because those are the only two he feels are his own. And that comes from love. V is hurting Vinu the same way he used to hurt Sai, by ignoring his wishes and needs and more so because it involves Sai.

Its twisted and weird but that's V ka love... narcissistic to a point that he doesn't bother about the pain he gives to his loved ones.

BK, P have never had this experience because they don't matter as such. The haq is only on those that he is deeply attached to.

P.S. Not justifying him, but this is what I felt. Have seen examples of men going extreme just because they weren't appreciated or heeded too. V falls in that category even though his intention is not that.

Agree. His reactions can be compared to easily prove this. If P really wanted to see this she has enough evidence too. When P got married to Samrat, V was heart broken. But neither was it this bad nor was did it last long. He was simply sad as if he he had wished a certain thing and it didn't work out. He mourned over it for a few days and got over it. But for Sai, he has been mourning for years. V never really felt jealous for P, not so angry and obsessive for her. But with Sai, he is extremely possessive and jealous. Like you said it is twisted, but that is how some people function. Their love can be destructive.

I really hope they get Ajinkya/Aniket back. With Jagtap it gets diluted through the baggage of the past with KJ and Sam's death. Thought it is jealousy, it is getting played like a betrayal of sorts for having a relationship with someone who killed two important people in their lives. With Ajinkya/Aniket this aspect will be removed and would purely be jealousy. Currently it is a parallel between P and JM in their respective lives.

Wish Ajinkya returns, is a lil hesitant seeing V, but Sai openly calls out that she is his ex-wife and he no longer has any rights whatsoever. And this makes Ajinkya openly flirt with Sai. Mauja Mauja!!

Trust and Faith

V ka anger is because of his insecurities. He has never cleared to Sai - in words... what she means to him. But they both trust each other when the situation demands. They have that faith on each other that even in inadvertent circumstances, the other will stand up for them. Sai trusts V since the beginning, she got married to him even when she hated him. He trusts her honesty and her good nature. Sai also knows that he is trustworthy when it comes to her. Even with so much bad blood between them, Sai trusted him enough in Saavi ka kidnapping to take help from him and let him do the job. He upheld her faith by saving Saavi.

But Sai knows she cannot trust V when it comes to his other family members and especially P. Where he fails and he broke her faith was in surrogacy and everything that happened post that. She kept her trust in him above everything else, even her self respect and he broke it again and again. He failed her immensely. He overestimated her trust and lost her.

The sad part is there is no introspection on this aspect yet from his side. It needs to come before they can move ahead.

That is a fact. V has never really had any true introspection. Most of the time, when he apologised is only coming from a place of guilt, where his actions have led to some unfortunate incidents. And not from where he analysed his own actions for their culpability. After the accident too, it was all about letting Sai go, led to her accident/death. That is all that he guilt tripped on. He has not really questioned himself for speaking such nasty things and favouring P over Sai.

Miscommunication

This stems from the trust factor. If they trust each other so much and know each other so well, why do they fail? Because of miscommunication. Both of them have some quirks and insecurities which were never addressed till the pre leap fight. It was here that everything came out and it was a detox of sorts. for them to move ahead, it was needed, otherwise a next issue would have brought them back to that edge where they would separate. This miscommunication or lack of communication is also the reason they cannot move on and keep getting back with each other. But it only resolves a part of it. post leap situation is ripe for a clean slate. only if these two are ready to sit down and talk.

SH track is pending. Then, Sai was completely absorbed in her guilt. But now she should call out his mistakes during SH track. Slap it on his face. Point out that his promises are only meant to be kept for others, not for her. He can fight the world for SH and the likes, but he could not stand up for his own wife and child against his own family and best friend! The fact that he didn't marry P when Sam or Sai were alive when they both were willing to walk out of their lives, to keep their so called good image. And got married when both their respective spouses died, as no one would now point fingers.

Karma

All of this is finally affecting their Karma.

Sai lived through hers by losing Vinu and staying alone and suffering.

V seemingly had everything but he was not in a condition to accept it. And since his crimes are more, his loss is greater.

V had the father experience during surrogacy but not the husband experience which he wanted with Sai.

Sai had the mother experience with Saavi but not wifey one with V.

Both lost on that aspect.

V sort of redeemed his karma to some bit by adopting Vinu and genuinely loving him.

But his wrongdoings are too much and now even when he comes to know that Saavi is his daughter, he wont be able to claim her or exercise his fatherly duties on her until he clears up his mess of marriage.

So V didn't have any growing up memories or experience initial baby years of fatherhood with both his kids. And that's his punishment.

The only part that hurts is Sai had to bear all the adversities alone. And she never really got the love and care of a husband during her pregnancy. V can go take a hike. Serves him well