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Posted: 3 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: AcquiredTaste

If you think about it from her point of view, if Gul is really hell bent on this generation leap then she really has no choice but to ruin Aryan. Adilie fans will vehemently tell you that in order to make Aryan more palatable and hence Arylie more acceptable Gul ruined Aditya.

Similarly Gul will have to ruin Aryan maybe to even be more of a bast*rd than Aditya just to make sure the audience accepts her next male lead.

What Gul seems to be overlooking however is that ruining a character is not enough. You also need to be extremely lucky and hit the mother lode to find a replacement actor who has both the looks and the acting chops to get the audience enraptured.

You see, not everyone is a Fahmaan Khan. She already has an uphill task as it is. She has already alienated Adilie fans and will now alienate Arylie fans but will still have to find an audience from amongst them for her next couple. I wish her luck coz she is gonna need it big time.


No but wouldn't they need happy cheeku for audience to connect to gen leap?


Like imagine who wants to watch step sister bigamy in same show twice within one year, given that there's no dearth of that trope already in ITV you'll find 2 shows with same concept on every damn channel.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Param-Sundari


No but wouldn't they need happy cheeku for audience to connect to gen leap?


Like imagine who wants to watch step sister bigamy in same show twice within one year, given that there's no dearth of that trope already in ITV you'll find 2 shows with same concept on every damn channel.

I think Gul’s best bet on giving the leap any sort of chance to work , will be to not piss off the existing audience anymore than she already has .. Give Arylie a happy ending.. start the leap on the context that Arylie passed away like the eternal lovers they are , together in an accident of some sort … their kid or cheeni, whoever is the next female protagonist is raised by the Rathore fam , fondly remembering Arylie .. and start the new story thereafter..

the current lot of the Arylie fd will somehow make peace ..and move on.. what else can we do anyways .. and if the new ML has any genuine credibility, maybe some of the older fd and the trp audience may even tune in to give him an initial chance ..

trying to put a dampner on s1 end , to boost s2 ka ML is pretty freaking high hopes .. her wanting to bring it Aryan se better ckt .. and FK se better actor .. veryyyy longgg shot lady ..

Arylie fd ,for sure , will still not watch s2 😄 that includes me too😛 Started watching with FK’s entry , will leave with his exit .. 🫶🏼

Edited by novice1 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: AcquiredTaste

If you think about it from her point of view, if Gul is really hell bent on this generation leap then she really has no choice but to ruin Aryan. Adilie fans will vehemently tell you that in order to make Aryan more palatable and hence Arylie more acceptable Gul ruined Aditya.

Similarly Gul will have to ruin Aryan maybe to even be more of a bast*rd than Aditya just to make sure the audience accepts her next male lead.

What Gul seems to be overlooking however is that ruining a character is not enough. You also need to be extremely lucky and hit the mother lode to find a replacement actor who has both the looks and the acting chops to get the audience enraptured.

You see, not everyone is a Fahmaan Khan. She already has an uphill task as it is. She has already alienated Adilie fans and will now alienate Arylie fans but will still have to find an audience from amongst them for her next couple. I wish her luck coz she is gonna need it big time.


Aryans character was accepted because of multiple reasons -

1. Fahman has done it brilliantly .. of course character was conceived beautifully

2. I was watching this show initially and Flip Flops of Aditya ( continuous lying) was something that pissed me off and so stopped watching it.. it was way way way before makers actually started ruining his character.. so his character was kind of not so perfect from beginning, but the actor playing Aditya was good

3. Actor who replaced original Aditya was really bad..his scenes were completely intolerable.

4. Earlier, Imlie has to paired against a new person, so old person Ka character assassination Kiya Gul ne.. here she is talking about generation leap.. so pairing is for new character( even if it's played by Sumbul) overall.. there won't be comparison be Aryan and new lead - different gen. Comparison will be overall performance - the swag ASR bright with him, his style, his power, his charm.. everything about him his amazing. Right now only thing Gul want is to end this one.. she can end it gracefully as in Aryan Imlie unite in saving Chini , consummate, Chiku 2 is born , but then something happens and they die and then season 2.

Seriously there is no need even for Gul to make Aryan question Imlies character and ruin everything for viewers 😏😏

But you see.. this is ITV.. they can show anything.. whatever they wish. It's a myth that viewers choice matters.

Sorry for the rant 😟

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Posted: 3 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Param-Sundari


No but wouldn't they need happy cheeku for audience to connect to gen leap?


Like imagine who wants to watch step sister bigamy in same show twice within one year, given that there's no dearth of that trope already in ITV you'll find 2 shows with same concept on every damn channel.

I take it you are addressing my other post in some other thread where I predicted a love triangle between Cheeni, Cheeku 2.0 and a potential new male lead.

Anyway, to address your statement about a happy Cheeku, do you realise that that is an alien concept to ITV. There is no way we could ever have a happy female lead. She will have to go through some kind of hardship and trauma for audiences to support her and root for her. Viewers love seeing how the female lead overcomes her hardships.

Also , to be honest I think Gul has a basic template for this show and is and will continue to use it going forward.

Like you said that basic template being a love triangle between two step sisters and some male lead.

I know this concept has already been done so many other times in the past but I think will continue to be done with varying levels of success going forward.

If you think about it there aren't that many shows with any original concept. Those that have had an original concept have often been victims of the dreaded trp.

Many of the shows are just new wine in old bottles and so it too may be with Imlie 2.0.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: AcquiredTaste

I take it you are addressing my other post in some other thread where I predicted a love triangle between Cheeni, Cheeku 2.0 and a potential new male lead.

Anyway, to address your statement about a happy Cheeku, do you realise that that is an alien concept to ITV. There is no way we could ever have a happy female lead. She will have to go through some kind of hardship and trauma for audiences to support her and root for her. Viewers love seeing how the female lead overcomes her hardships.

Also , to be honest I think Gul has a basic template for this show and is and will continue to use it going forward.

Like you said that basic template being a love triangle between two step sisters and some male lead.

I know this concept has already been done so many other times in the past but I think will continue to be done with varying levels of success going forward.

If you think about it there aren't that many shows with any original concept. Those that have had an original concept have often been victims of the dreaded trp.

Many of the shows are just new wine in old bottles and so it too may be with Imlie 2.0.

And to be fair .. even Arylie wasn’t a new concept .. Grumpy ML with a tragic past / Sunshine FL to bring him out of his darkness has been rinsed and repeated so many times , that its not even worth counting .. what made Arylie still work was the gem of a ckt they crafted in Aryan .. FK’s acting chops .. and Sumaan’s chemistry in potraying the couple..

To ur point .. Gul will be attempting to recycle the old triangle in a new setting and cross her fingers it works with the new duo

Edited by novice1 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: novice1

And to be fair .. even Arylie wasn’t a new concept .. Grumpy ML with a tragic past / Sunshine FL to bring him out of his darkness has been rinsed and repeated so many times , that its not even worth counting .. what made Arylie still work was the gem of a ckt they crafted in Aryan .. FK’s acting chops .. and Sumaan’s chemistry in potraying the couple..

To ur point .. Gul will be attempting to recycle the old triangle in a new setting and cross her fingers it works with the new duo

So true.
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Posted: 3 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: AcquiredTaste

I take it you are addressing my other post in some other thread where I predicted a love triangle between Cheeni, Cheeku 2.0 and a potential new male lead.

Anyway, to address your statement about a happy Cheeku, do you realise that that is an alien concept to ITV. There is no way we could ever have a happy female lead. She will have to go through some kind of hardship and trauma for audiences to support her and root for her. Viewers love seeing how the female lead overcomes her hardships.

Also , to be honest I think Gul has a basic template for this show and is and will continue to use it going forward.

Like you said that basic template being a love triangle between two step sisters and some male lead.

I know this concept has already been done so many other times in the past but I think will continue to be done with varying levels of success going forward.

If you think about it there aren't that many shows with any original concept. Those that have had an original concept have often been victims of the dreaded trp.

Many of the shows are just new wine in old bottles and so it too may be with Imlie 2.0.


See i agree that it can work with any new show that's not the point.

Here though, they can't end arylie on bad note because Malini has already broken imlie's first marriage, if she breaks this also, what kind of msg would the show be giving?

That would just mean malini was FL all along, and justify all her criminal activities.

They've a moral responsibility of showing good triumph over evil at the end.


Not to mention they need phasing in for new characters, no gen leap works without connection with characters.

Audience has connected to cheeni positively seeing arylie love for her, now they can't make cheeni FL and arylie daughter as 3rd angle in whatever love triangle story she's cooked, what kind of message would that be?

And they can't make arylie baby FL without phasing her in even if it's played by sumbul, it's too soon for people to see Sumbul with a 3rd ML, not even 2 full years.

Edited by Param-Sundari - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: Param-Sundari


See i agree that it can work with any new show that's not the point.

Here though, they can't end arylie on bad note because Malini has already broken imlie's first marriage, if she breaks this also, what kind of msg would the show be giving?

That would just mean malini was FL all along, and justify all her criminal activities.

They've a moral responsibility of showing good triumph over evil at the end.


Not to mention they need phasing in for new characters, no gen leap works without connection with characters.

Audience has connected to cheeni positively seeing arylie love for her, now they can't make cheeni FL and arylie daughter as 3rd angle in whatever love triangle story she's cooked, what kind of message would that be?

And they can't make arylie baby FL without phasing her in even if it's played by sumbul, it's too soon for people to see Sumbul with a 3rd ML, not even 2 full years.

Yaar the show which originated with bigamy as its basis , usse kya hi social msg dene ki umeed rakhein 🙂 …. But yeah , it ll be interesting to see how are they gonna end s1 so that it seemlessly ties into s2 and the initial storyline in s2 somehow makes sense..

Achcha waise , why r we so sure that Cheeku 2.0 is gonna be a girl 😛 .. that will happen only if Sumbul stays back .. if even Sumbul’s out, fir toh new ML can be Arylie’s son .. Cheeni can be the ever positive FL .. and this time around Gul shows a triangle but with two guys and a gal 🤷‍♀️ .. I get a feeling she might do that .. kuch toh novelty lane ko 🙄

Edited by novice1 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: novice1

Yaar the show which originated with bigamy as its basis , usse kya hi social msg dene ki umeed rakhein 🙂 …. But yeah , it ll be interesting to see how are they gonna end s1 so that it seemlessly ties into s2 and the initial storyline in s2 somehow makes sense..

Achcha waise , why r we so sure that Cheeku 2.0 is gonna be a girl 😛 .. that will happen only if Sumbul stays back .. if even Sumbul’s out, fir toh new ML can be Arylie’s son .. Cheeni can be the ever positive FL .. and this time around Gul shows a triangle but with two guys and a gal 🤷‍♀️ .. I get a feeling she might do that .. kuch toh novelty lane ko 🙄

Exactly,social message and ITV shows don't go hand in hand. They always normalize crimes and criminal activities in the name of drama. A person like Malini should have gone to jail at least for once but here she is roaming around as if she has done nothing. Yes, good winning over evil eventually happens ,but with the news of leap floating around I don't know if it will happen here. If they want to show AryLie die they can show them dying in an accident after Malini being put in jail. But I feel Gul might go the QH way and get them killed by Malini.
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Posted: 3 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: novice1

Yaar the show which originated with bigamy as its basis , usse kya hi social msg dene ki umeed rakhein 🙂 …. But yeah , it ll be interesting to see how are they gonna end s1 so that it seemlessly ties into s2 and the initial storyline in s2 somehow makes sense..

Achcha waise , why r we so sure that Cheeku 2.0 is gonna be a girl 😛 .. that will happen only if Sumbul stays back .. if even Sumbul’s out, fir toh new ML can be Arylie’s son .. Cheeni can be the ever positive FL .. and this time around Gul shows a triangle but with two guys and a gal 🤷‍♀️ .. I get a feeling she might do that .. kuch toh novelty lane ko 🙄


I'm saying this because sumbul recently got appreciated for playing imlie and giving hope to lots of victims of forced marriages in remote parts of odisha and nearby states with tribal background by a rural welfare organization.


And any kind of entertainment can't go against basic societal beliefs of giving hope and triumph of FL after all difficulties, specially when imlie already has one bad ending with Aditya

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