Can anyone name a decent release an outsider's gotten ? - Page 5

Originally posted by: Fantus

Ayushmaan has bow down to kjo and is now part of his inner coterie. so he is no longer considered outsider. Also it's been years since he has debuted. So jo bhi success achieve Kiya Hai it a toh Banta Hai.

I don’t understand your logic. Karthik and Ayushman started around the same time. Sure it took Karthik longer. But how does that make Ayushman an insider?

Originally posted by: Guddu.Pandit

Facts pe aao jaar, itna gussa kaahe ho jaate ho. Chalo batao which HIt is coz of Ranveer.

I already answered- each and every movie that he was a part of, regardless of it’s bo result, is his. I have been stating only the facts. You are the one expressing your opinions as per your prejudices. Otherwise how can anyone with a fair judgement say GB was a hit because of the rappers?😳

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Originally posted by: catchmeifucan

I already answered- each and every movie that he was a part of, regardless of it’s bo result, is his. I have been stating only the facts. You are the one expressing your opinions as per your prejudices. Otherwise how can anyone with a fair judgement say GB was a hit because of the rappers?😳

Now this is coming across as Bias fan, bas film kar li toh Ranveer hi hai bas. Baaki koi viewpoint hai hi nahi.

Originally posted by: Guddu.Pandit

Now this is coming across as Bias fan, bas film kar li toh Ranveer hi hai bas. Baaki koi viepoint hai hi nahi.

I didn’t quite understand what you were trying to say. But not just Ranveer, every actor, every director owns the movie that they were a part of. The movie is what it is, is because of their collective hard work. A director chooses an actor because he fits into his vision for the movie. And the actor has to do a lot of hard work to deliver that vision to the audience. If you are saying there is no hard work or talent involved, then what do I call you?

Originally posted by: catchmeifucan

I didn’t quite understand what you were trying to say. But not just Ranveer, every actor, every director owns the movie that they were a part of. The movie is what it is, is because of their collective hard work. A director chooses an actor because he fits into his vision for the movie. And the actor has to do a lot of hard work to deliver that vision to the audience. If you are saying there is no hard work or talent involved, then what do I call you?

A Hero has that star power that when a film lacks a few things, he comes in and compensates for those shortcomings with his performance. In the case of 83 & JJ, Ranveer's star power was needed, in which he failed miserably, which proved that in all those earlier hits, it was mainly because of those directors.

Originally posted by: Supari_khala

I don’t understand your logic. Karthik and Ayushman started around the same time. Sure it took Karthik longer. But how does that make Ayushman an insider?

Whats news for me is that Ayushmann is an insider.😅 He just did one episode of KwK, uske baad I don't think he has been around KJo. Usse jyaada toh Kartik was around Ananya and Sara (and KJo) 😅

Unless I am missing something

Originally posted by: Guddu.Pandit

A Hero has that star power that when a film lacks a few things, he comes in and compensates for those shortcomings with his performance. In the case of 83 & JJ, Ranveer's star power was needed, in which he failed miserably, which proved that in all those earlier hits, it was mainly because of those directors.

Have we moved on to debating about the star power now? I thought we were talking about hard work and him earning the things he got through his hard work.

If we are talking about such star power, other than Salman and SRK and at some point Amitabh bachchan, name one actor who has such blind following?

Originally posted by: catchmeifucan

Have we moved on to debating about the star power now? I thought we were talking about hard work and him earning the things he got through his hard work.

If we are talking about such star power, other than Salman and SRK and at some point Amitabh bachchan, name one actor who has such blind following?

My point was that Ranveer can't make a film HIT on his own. Bas yehi.

Originally posted by: Guddu.Pandit

My point was that Ranveer can't make a film HIT on his own. Bas yehi.

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But our initial debate was about him working hard and earning his place in the industry. When did the goal post move to making a movie hit on his own? That was never a debate because clearly on today’s date we have just two actors who can do that. Hopefully some of the current crop of actors can get to that level or may be we will never have anymore actors who can make block busters out of any content.