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Posted: 3 years ago

Yes you are right that’s additional on top of the pile that is very big, it would be scary to lose your identity and poor girl has had zero time to just sit and think. At college she is stalked and at home she is berated. She wants to think outside but hubby wants her to think of his mother. She needs space and she needs a break.

I agree that Shehroz needs to not be a mumma’s boy and step up, specially when is busy being a b***h. I didn’t like how he told her to think of his mother and then walked of. Hope tomorrow he will be more forceful and take a stand. As a mother Naima is only talking why isn’t she hiring a private detective and find out who is behind this all. I want to see a different Ushna too, badly.

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Posted: 3 years ago

I saw a comment on youtube wondering what was the big deal about ushna's mom being a dancer. they were thinking more on the lines of bollywood type backup dancer. however, this is different. I remembered reading this BBC article about how the culture of dance in PK is complicated. these women do have to train to be able to perform. so in that sense, it is art. basically it is like these hindi movies about olden times where they perform in dance halls in front of a small group.

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however, many of these women service selected patrons for a fee to get an additional stream of income. therefore, dancers and prostitutes are often clubbed together in the same approach by society.

during the lockdown, youtube randomly recommended this video about a woman judge in PK. she was talking about how she became a judge and shared some of the cases that was most memorable.

this one case -- the lorry driver was accused of kidnapping this girl by her parents and he was brought to court. he refused the charges and said she was his second wife and had come to him willingly. he then threw a googly that the girl was a prostitute. occasionally on his long work drives, he would seek a prostitute. his wife meanwhile managed their small farm in the village. during one such trip, he came across this young girl.

for whatever reason, she ended up weeping on his shoulder. she was the breadwinner of her family despite having a brother, father and mother who were all healthy and physically able to work. instead both men were doing gambling, drugs and other vices. the girl was forcibly pushed by her parents into prostitution at a young age. now she was horrified and heartbroken that they were trying to do the same to the younger sister as well.

the guy went home extremely troubled by her plight. he ended up talking to his wife and asked if he can rescue both these girls. the wife agreed to letting him marry this girl as a second wife and this would allow the girl to bring her sister as well to their house. however, before they could bring the younger sister, he got arrested for kidnapping charges.

the judge ordered the police and NGOs to try locate the younger sister but she had already been trafficked. she could not be found. the parents and brother were arrested. the judge ended the anecdote with her thoughts on how these women are looked down upon by society when these women are being exploited by their own families. so who are the real culprits?

anyway, I was reminded of that this morning in relation with the drama. naima looking down on ushna's mom but having no idea what were the circumstances that led to her dancing. dadi making contempt comments about a woman she has never met and assuming that ushna will be some sort of reflection.

none of these people are even talking about the character of this woman. instead they are assuming that because of how she had worked for a period of time, she was a vamp. but was she really? note that the dadi is not asking why her son would seek the services of a dancer -- instead, it is all the dancer's fault for seducing the son. but what if the son like the lorry driver decided to offer marriage in order to rescue her and give her a different life?

zainab said ushna's background didn't factor in to her decision to adopt. maybe her point was that if the parents had been married and committed to each other, then there was no question of illegitimacy. the mom's past as a dancer made no difference to the marriage itself and she was loyal as a wife. hence, zainab and farooq adopting the baby after the accident was more straightforward because for them, they were adopting from a married couple who had been sincere with each other. so they didn't see it as scandalizing per se.

Edited by mango.falooda - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Rubabbb

I heard episode was bad I'm not feeling like watching it they ruined my show🤢

yea it is going through this irritating phase. however, the good thing is that our faves are already married. so there is no question over our heads whether she will choose sufiyan. and we know from BTS that they will have a happy ending. so easier to hang in there and enjoy the ride as much as we can.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: vibha28

Zunaisha rightfully told her off at that time. Loved her for that.

Yes both Shehroz and Ushna are very similar and I think once we know Ushna's feelings in depth she will love the same as well. She has figured it out already but we have yet to see it.

It is Laiba then 🤣🤣She can be like Glenn Close the bunny boiler 🤣🤣

In real life none of us would marry a Shehroz. 😉 I would not tolerate him for a second when he was rude in the beginning. Shehroz I hope doesn't listen to mum but stays like this. It's good he stopped being a mumma's boy and good to see how he has become right now. I would like if he continues and doesn't bend down to his mum.

Can we just declare now that Zunaisha was the only sane or the most sane character of the show.😆

What I liked about her unlike many other dramas when Shehroz called her back after she broke up , she rejected him again right away. The other reason why I stuck to this drama. I was so amazed to see so different and strong women in this drama like Zunaisha, Ushna, Zainab and Naima ( until she ruined herself) . All the women were different from typical women. If it was a Indian TV drama with more than 100 episodes, they would have shown Zunaisha returning into Shehroz's life making villainous plans against Ushna 😆 But I am glad, she told Shehroz right away and did not cling to him just for money and looks, although, she loved him too but he was obsessing over his mother's condition and behaving weird. I mean when Zunaisha told him she loves him, he asked "kitna" 🤣 Who does that, on the top of that ,he took his mom on his date with Zunaisha 🤣


Yes,even I feel ,once Ushna realises and get back her old self , she is gonna be two steps ahead than Shehroz in declaraing her love 😳 I have said this before too , I feel the director is reserving her solid love confession when she gets back to her old self , and starts to come out of all this.

Edited by Renee.Clare - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: mango.falooda


so, now I get this part of the story -- basically shehroze and ushna are in a dicey netherland kind of place. they are married religious wise but not considered fully married society wise. this leaves them kind of vulnerable to separation; a question mark where they are together but not necessarily so. it also leaves them unable to make decisions as a couple and for themselves because they haven't finished the ritual yet.

OMG , This !! Now, i get why they both looked so tensed, it is not about them spending romantic moments, it is more about them being separated again and hence all this chaos behind this. So , should we assume that Naima is not ready for Rukhsati because it will be difficult for her to throw Ushna out from Shehroz's life after Ruskhsati ? 😆

Edited by Renee.Clare - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

in addition to the points discussed on how ushna has become passive, I think her adoption has also really thrown her for a loop. she has become far more afraid to question and speak up as she is still processing that info about her background. then add the guilt that she brought trouble to shehroze life has her fading further away. however, I did like the bit of spunk she showed in yesterday's episode where she was skeptical of sufiyan when he said he has moved on. then she just eye rolled and basically was like "laiba whatever. just stop stalking me!" ....

so that sass and spunk is still there but it gets buried under guilt with so many blaming her and insuinating that she is responsible for sufiyan's stalking and shooting of shehroze. then add the feeling worthless over the adoption, we can see how ushna is afraid to step up to how she feels. she does need shehroze to really stop being mama boy and take a stand for her. once she knows that she has a support who will not walk away from her, we will see a different ushna. (atleast that is my hope!)

Ah yes, you explained in better way than I tried to!❤️ I agree with you.


Also, I feel, after her father's death, she somewhar needed a little emotinal support from someone if not much. With Sufiyan being nicw to her, she was finding that in him, did not love him but she definitely saw him as a friend and suppporter, hence she was ready to marry him instead Shehroz who never gave her that respect which she always wanted. So her soft spot for Sufiyan is understabdable. Plus, I am hoping Shehroz understands this about her and supports her ,then like you said ,she will grow back and that will be really a good development of her character , it will be some like rediscovering her own self again.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

with ushna's mom being a dancer, any forwardness or standing up for herself will also be seen as a result of her bad blood. 🙄🤦 so that leaves ushna in a kind of dicey position of being unable to stand up for herself. hopefully we won't go to such toxic levels of saas bahu drama -- the lack of such usual tropes was what made this drama fun.

This !! The girl is trapped like anything 😳

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

yea it is going through this irritating phase. however, the good thing is that our faves are already married. so there is no question over our heads whether she will choose sufiyan. and we know from BTS that they will have a happy ending. so easier to hang in there and enjoy the ride as much as we can.

Exactly, it is still not that bad in comparison to what serials I have seen before 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Renee.Clare

OMG , This !! Now, i get why they both looked so tensed, it is not about them spending romantic moments, it is more about them being separated again and hence all this chaos behind this. So , should we assume that Naima is not ready for Rukhsati because it will be difficult for her to throw Ushna out from Shehroz's life after Ruskhsati ? 😆

Pak dramas have reached new level of insanity with fewer episodes. 😆 At least in Indian daily soaps they all act crazy because they want to run the show not less than 100 years if they get TRP. Here, when they have to conclude the show in some 50-60 episodes still they act abnormal. In 'Mere humsafar' shahjahan was getting panic attack whole night when Hala-Hamza consummated their marriage. @Bold- Naima aunty will get different kind of stroke if she gets to know about first night of Shehroz and Ushna. It looks like a new trend, difficult to differentiate the behaviour of mother and Sautan. 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Renee.Clare

OMG , This !! Now, i get why they both looked so tensed, it is not about them spending romantic moments, it is more about them being separated again and hence all this chaos behind this. So , should we assume that Naima is not ready for Rukhsati because it will be difficult for her to throw Ushna out from Shehroz's life after Ruskhsati ? 😆

kekeke.. so far it does not look like it is intentional maybe it is all roundabout way of separating these two? am not sure I understand her logic that rukshati will fan the flames of stalker sufiyan further. but she probably knows her son well. he is already attached with hardly any moments. if the deed is done, he will be full on possessive and will tuck her under his arm regardless of whether naima likes it or not. 😆

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