Pandya Store | Episode Discussion #197 - Page 96

Originally posted by: Yahvi

Problem is he thinks that all shivi fans = Shiva fans,& they care only about his scenes,nothing else... Fans were rude to writers because of regressive writing, it didn't have anything to do with him, it was a matter between writers & fans.. I clearly remembered fans targeted writers for showing regressive & toxic stuff.. But he took it upon himself to be the moral police? For those writers & show who themselves don't show moral values in their show.. Justify everything wrong, name call everyone, call bahus derogatory names & later glorified those characters.. KD himself jumped into the matter which didn't concern him.. If fans didn't like writing it's between fans & writers.. If anything of writers or producers or anyone from creatives would have called fans out it makes sense, it DID NOT concern KD at all..

Bold: so he did the same thing he called out fans for.. Being impatient.. If instead of justifying writers he would have said the same thing that he'll talk to team baat itni aage badhti hi nhi.. Practice what you preach🙌

ok all shivi fans=shiva fans but i never heard him say that also every scene in which alice is involved he tags her and promotes...and its now common thinking that because of him alice is not getting ss...just because he is is promoting his character, but he is equally promoting shivi as well as ps also...

even worst serials like udariyaan actors promote their shows....

and kd jumped in matter between writer and fans well he had to ....one of his fans had given rape threats to one of coactors and ofcourse his name is also maligned and as far as i know the track in jan was pretty regressive everyone was angry at writers and this threat scene might happen incase of writers also thats why he urged fans to give feedback in a respectful way ...its true writers showed pretty regressive track but because they did wrong fans giving threats is equally wrong...one wrong behaviour doesnt justify another wrong behaviour...ofcourse everyone will not resort to threats ....but his request to give feedback in a respectful way was to restrain those who cross limits....and its clear sm gives freedom to say and do whatever anyone wants ... but he by doing that request just tried his best to keep the feedback in a respectful manner so that another article will not come about his fans giving threats to writers..

he neither said fans shouldnt give feedback nor did he taken the side of writers blindly he said to give the feedback in a respectful manner...

here also calling fans impatient doesnt mean he insulted them or that he denied criticism but he meant atleast let the track end then audience should give their feedback ...and the impatient comment was wrt to current track....after he was intervied about audience displeasure...

Originally posted by: SAOkr

ok all shivi fans=shiva fans but i never heard him say that also every scene in which alice is involved he tags her and promotes...and its now common thinking that because of him alice is not getting ss...just because he is is promoting his character, but he is equally promoting shivi as well as ps also...

even worst serials like udariyaan actors promote their shows....

and kd jumped in matter between writer and fans well he had to ....one of his fans had given rape threats to one of coactors and ofcourse his name is also maligned and as far as i know the track in jan was pretty regressive everyone was angry at writers and this threat scene might happen incase of writers also thats why he urged fans to give feedback in a respectful way ...its true writers showed pretty regressive track but because they did wrong fans giving threats is equally wrong...one wrong behaviour doesnt justify another wrong behaviour...ofcourse everyone will not resort to threats ....but his request to give feedback in a respectful way was to restrain those who cross limits....and its clear sm gives freedom to say and do whatever anyone wants ... but he by doing that request just tried his best to keep the feedback in a respectful manner so that another article will not come about his fans giving threats to writers..

he neither said fans shouldnt give feedback nor did he taken the side of writers blindly he said to give the feedback in a respectful manner...

here also calling fans impatient doesnt mean he insulted them or that he denied criticism but he meant atleast let the track end then audience should give their feedback ...and the impatient comment was wrt to current track....after he was intervied about audience displeasure...

Nope..

Anyways my comment was bcz he thinks that all fans care about is his scenes, he too said in the live that respect writers bcz they made shiva! So? I'm not happy with what they are making Raavi so if these writers have written Shiva according to him then that's it!! People shouldn't voice out if they are not liking the regressive stuff thru are showing with Raavi?? Shivi means both Shiva & Raavi.. Not just Shiva!

I support his lashing out about simran thing! It's understandable! But not about writers!! It's between writers & fans.. He shouldn't have come in between!

Originally posted by: Yahvi

Nope..

Anyways my comment was bcz he thinks that all fans care about is his scenes, he too said in the live that respect writers bcz they made shiva! So? I'm not happy with what they are making Raavi so if these writers have written Shiva according to him then that's it!! People shouldn't voice out if they are not liking the regressive stuff thru are showing with Raavi?? Shivi means both Shiva & Raavi.. Not just Shiva!

I support his lashing out about simran thing! It's understandable! But not about writers!! It's between writers & fans.. He shouldn't have come in between!

ok i still dont understand why you think he thinks shivi = shiva .... its true in that live he said that respect the writers because they made shiva he said that in contest for particularly his character because at that ivf time shivas character was completely ruined..and audience was pretty upset with the way shiva was behaving with raavi ... so they were starting to lash out at writer for destroying his character and also for treatment of raavi by his character...i.e why he said that the writer had also written shiva in haveli times also not that to disregard the raavis character....

also if he had not come in that live and urged to give feedback in a respectful way , and next day some other fans might have threatened or spoke ill of writers and then he may had to face allegation that his fans threatened or bad mouthed the writers...

atleast by that live those who followed him started giving feedback in a more respectful way... he by coming live for writers at the cost of being trolled by audience had avoided another possible case like simrans ..

its just as simple as that....

Originally posted by: SAOkr

ok all shivi fans=shiva fans but i never heard him say that also every scene in which alice is involved he tags her and promotes...and its now common thinking that because of him alice is not getting ss...just because he is is promoting his character, but he is equally promoting shivi as well as ps also...

even worst serials like udariyaan actors promote their shows....

and kd jumped in matter between writer and fans well he had to ....one of his fans had given rape threats to one of coactors and ofcourse his name is also maligned and as far as i know the track in jan was pretty regressive everyone was angry at writers and this threat scene might happen incase of writers also thats why he urged fans to give feedback in a respectful way ...its true writers showed pretty regressive track but because they did wrong fans giving threats is equally wrong...one wrong behaviour doesnt justify another wrong behaviour...ofcourse everyone will not resort to threats ....but his request to give feedback in a respectful way was to restrain those who cross limits....and its clear sm gives freedom to say and do whatever anyone wants ... but he by doing that request just tried his best to keep the feedback in a respectful manner so that another article will not come about his fans giving threats to writers..

he neither said fans shouldnt give feedback nor did he taken the side of writers blindly he said to give the feedback in a respectful manner...

here also calling fans impatient doesnt mean he insulted them or that he denied criticism but he meant atleast let the track end then audience should give their feedback ...and the impatient comment was wrt to current track....after he was intervied about audience displeasure...

@Bold: This is the difference

Promoting the show and his character is different

& Defending the shit of writers and editors are different

{ I don't watch that show nor follow the actors

But on IF only I saw ML ka article

He clearly says he doesn't support what his character does, he says his character is wrong. He even said fans are furious on him and they should be. He even says how it is his character's fault and him getting bashed is due to the actions of the character and is not fans fault.

He never said his writers are writing the best show.

I don't wanna talk more about him (will edit this part soon) }

KD

Hyping his show and character is not wrong and no one is commenting on it. But woh urte hue teer kyu le raha hain.

Fans talked about editing, if he thinks Shivi ke saath partiality nahi ho rahi toh reply karne ki kya zaroorat hain?

Fans being impatient, Sneha kaand happened in July and till March Shiva was treating Raavi like a shit, even after when they got remarried we barely saw them talking or in same frame. He talks about fans being impatient, what about he and his team ?

Always ready with guns for few comments and ignoring the better thousands of comments ?

Writers of this show can write kachra, ganda khoon for a girl and all the shitty things about her for 8 months and still writing but they can't ignore a handful of bad comments on them.

Iska matlab khud kuch bhi karo but will give moral policing to the fans.

They can easily ignore bad comments bcoz respectful and good comments have been always in greater no., agar sm kholna he sirf -ve comments ka halla karne ke liye hain, then as I said he should write on his profile, only those people can comment who thinks Shiva, writers and editors are the best.

Also Shiva is loved more bcoz we thought we will get Kathir and KD is a great actor but his best people have made sure that Shiva comes in the list of worst MLs with the way he has treated Raavi for 8+ months and still can't defend her in front of his mother ka shit.

Originally posted by: SAOkr

ok i still dont understand why you think he thinks shivi = shiva .... its true in that live he said that respect the writers because they made shiva he said that in contest for particularly his character because at that ivf time shivas character was completely ruined..and audience was pretty upset with the way shiva was behaving with raavi ... so they were starting to lash out at writer for destroying his character and also for treatment of raavi by his character...i.e why he said that the writer had also written shiva in haveli times also not that to disregard the raavis character....

also if he had not come in that live and urged to give feedback in a respectful way , and next day some other fans might have threatened or spoke ill of writers and then he may had to face allegation that his fans threatened or bad mouthed the writers...

atleast by that live those who followed him started giving feedback in a more respectful way... he by coming live for writers at the cost of being trolled by audience had avoided another possible case like simrans ..

its just as simple as that....

He treats fans like punching bag.. No other celebrity give that much fukat ka gyaan aur na hi koi fans itna sunte hai.. He's lucky fans have tolerated this behavior this long!! & what allegations? Most dignified way is not make everything about yourself! Ye fans ka matter hai fans jaane.. He can't take accountability of every fan!! Big boss fans even give death threats! Bollywood stars, cricket stars all their fans say so many things!! Wo log aise live me aake itna suna ke jaate hai kya?? Ek baar, do baar.. Everytime?? Shivi fans ko bhi log bahut kuch bol dete hai, agar uska dil apne writers ke liye itna dukhta hai, to thoda fans ko bhi to support kare! Just the way he support his Coactors & team!

He's here since 10 years but this time he got immense fans support.. It's right that fans didn't make him but it's right too that these fans he's treating like this have given him the popularity he never gained before. These fans have stood by him when his character was getting assassinated & jab baat shivi fans ke character ki aayi he joined the bandwagon who bashed fans? That's not the way to treat fans! He should learn from other celebrities how they treat their fans

Aag wasn’t needed at this time! neither in show nor in fandom.

Time called for staying put, but quiet.

Was Zethji with him? It was that kind of reaction. Not needed. Not after a decade in industry.

Honestly last week’s criticism and pointing out editing chaos wasn’t out of place.

Well written, shot SR scene of the most loved pair of this show got 2-3 minutes of beginning airing & no promo/ article or even mention in synopsis.

Repetitive story of 3rd couple got more prominence, conversations.

well written, shot scene of much loved couple getting ready scene got 3 minutes airtime with most of the scene being edited out.
While senior couple got 7+ minutes of lovescene . looking completely out of place with mental condition of both these seniors shown imbalanced with extra partiality, splurging property to jwellery on their favorite brother & his wife, missing & dukhi with their absence. Love scene at that point- that too detailed one was completely disconnecting watch.

people watch the show! Not just the scenes. Story, connect, flow matters. That has been disjointed for long now.

Shows will come & go, fans won’t. some do cross limit, but today’s comments on his post were not that bad.

anyways, too bad- too late.
looking at synopsis- looks like same circles. Over the top acting of certain actors & disjointed whitewashing on the way.
oh well!

I want gaumbi to embarrass himself good after this lol at least he has an excuse did dharas bhagodi mom possess her lol

Originally posted by: SAOkr

ok all shivi fans=shiva fans but i never heard him say that also every scene in which alice is involved he tags her and promotes...and its now common thinking that because of him alice is not getting ss...just because he is is promoting his character, but he is equally promoting shivi as well as ps also...

even worst serials like udariyaan actors promote their shows....

and kd jumped in matter between writer and fans well he had to ....one of his fans had given rape threats to one of coactors and ofcourse his name is also maligned and as far as i know the track in jan was pretty regressive everyone was angry at writers and this threat scene might happen incase of writers also thats why he urged fans to give feedback in a respectful way ...its true writers showed pretty regressive track but because they did wrong fans giving threats is equally wrong...one wrong behaviour doesnt justify another wrong behaviour...ofcourse everyone will not resort to threats ....but his request to give feedback in a respectful way was to restrain those who cross limits....and its clear sm gives freedom to say and do whatever anyone wants ... but he by doing that request just tried his best to keep the feedback in a respectful manner so that another article will not come about his fans giving threats to writers..

he neither said fans shouldnt give feedback nor did he taken the side of writers blindly he said to give the feedback in a respectful manner...

here also calling fans impatient doesnt mean he insulted them or that he denied criticism but he meant atleast let the track end then audience should give their feedback ...and the impatient comment was wrt to current track....after he was intervied about audience displeasure...

Who said becz of kd Alice not getting ss🤷‍♀️

Originally posted by: .Sunrise.

It's how u see it , I found that comment rude and celebs are humans too something which others find ok can be a trigger for them

And about raavi being used as a prop , I don't see that

Shiva is the protagonist and raavi is his antagonist it's the story we have signed up for

Yes changes can happen and it will so far it was Shiva raavi lovestory where both were equally involved .

Now was Shiva's turn to shine individually with raavi being his guiding light , iam sure at some point raavi will also be made to shine individually because on paper raavi looks like just another character it's Alice and her portrayal who has elevated raavi so much .

If show will survive Iam sure her chance to shine will come soon

SM is no rainbows

Anyone without a pvt account get hate comments.

I found it a normal comment

That comment said nothing wrong. Actors are humans then they too need to think that always insulting the same bunch of people could also trigger them.

Raavi is a prop

When was the last time a track started for her or even concerned her and ended with her ?

Bcoz even if it happened she was barely there and in last few weeks she has barely got dialgoes.

We signed up for a esembled cast where Raavi was no less than Dhara and Shiva. Where everyone had their own track and most importantly, we didn't signed up for the show to see 'ways to treate your dil and wife like a trash' and Raavi getting barely any ss.

@Bold: Its been more than a yr since leap and it didn't happened and the way trp is, it won't get another yr.

If u think anything centric Raavi will come then u aren't watching the show. Bcoz makers are trying to show us how dobi she is, and she is the free ki naukar and punching bag of Kaandyas.

Originally posted by: manny136

I want gaumbi to embarrass himself good after this lol at least he has an excuse did dharas bhagodi mom possess her lol

Anyways its going to be the rinse and repeat of same shameless butt licking..let it be humorously entertaining atleast 🥳