Did abhimanyu birla really fight hard for his love? - Page 3

I think you are misunderstanding what the Twitter audience is trying to convey in 280 characters.

When they (even I) say he fought for his love tooth and nail, it's not against the world or the family but his lover Akshara herself. He fought for her love when AK herself gave up. It's difficult to fight with family and convince them for your love I agree but it's an impossible fight when you are fighting against your love itself. He fought against AK's selfish sacrifice. He was rude, brash, and impulsive (but only towards AK, not even AR) because he felt his love gave him that right. You only take liberties with the people you love.

His getting engaged to AR was under duress(mom's bad health and he had clarified this and his terms to AR). It was NO Janam Janam ka vaada but a deal (for a family name only, not even a real companionship). The deal can be broken when you find a cheating clause. Goenkas broke it when they found out about Harsh's lie about dates so AB is also entitled to do the same when he found out about AR's lies. He didn't do it for that reason is a different story but he was not in the wrong for doing it.

I think I understand what your problem is with the situation or what I have come to understand from your post history. You tend to think in terms of social definitives like rituals (Tilak, engagement, etc. ) and you feel these are the things that are needed to make or break a relationship, but the general audience doesn't think that (or at least AB doesn't think that). In reality, emotions are what make, guide or break a relationship. You can have a couple who got married with all show-sha still at odds with each other and end up divorced and you have a couple who run away and get married in a court having long happy relationships. If we go by your logic, no person whose engagement got broken would ever get married again in the world. But in the grand scheme of things, these stupid rituals absolutely mean zilch. You can choose to be hung up on them and waste your life and bandwidth arguing with people that they do but people and life move on.

Now coming to his fight for love part,

His actions towards AK (only AK, not AR because that was a deal) might be questionable but his emotions never were. The guy conveys his love and pain through his eyes and everyone other than the AR (even the G clan) could see that or sense that.

Abhimanyu really didn't give 2 hoots to families so winning their approval wasn't a difficulty for him. What was difficult was not able to be with his love AK because she gave all the hoots. So he stood with her and her way of doing things. But he didn't have to do any Maine Pyaar Kiya stunt I agree. The man is honest to a fault. He was ready to talk and convince (never got a chance to do that) but not get a personality transplant (because that's plain dishonesty that's not who you really are).

He was just being himself in front of them a doctor and a lover. The Goenka's we're convinced because they saw his sincerity not because he changed for them. They accepted him as he is. BP even said "He is different from other people but he is not wrong"

I know fighting or convincing family might look really grand on screen but in reality, those people are non-entities in a lifetime relationship. If you change yourself for these external reasons you are being dishonest with yourself and them because old habits die hard. You will be back to your habits and they would be back to disapproving of you. It's better that they like you for who you are and that you start your relationship with complete honesty.

In conclusion, he fought (maybe not as grandly as Prem or any other unrealistic Bollywood hero) not against the family but always against his beloved and for his love. This is harder. His love was tested time and again by no one other than Akshara and he passed with flying colors every time. It's how you can fight for your partner and for your love even when things are bad that makes you a real partner/lover.

I don't have the tag option yet so maybe you won't even read my reply but this was addressed to the OP or TM or whatever is the IF terminology

Originally posted by: Antara_302

I think you are misunderstanding what the Twitter audience is trying to convey in 280 characters.

When they (even I) say he fought for his love tooth and nail, it's not against the world or the family but his lover Akshara herself. He fought for her love when AK herself gave up. It's difficult to fight with family and convince them for your love I agree but it's an impossible fight when you are fighting against your love itself. He fought against AK's selfish sacrifice. He was rude, brash, and impulsive (but only towards AK, not even AR) because he felt his love gave him that right. You only take liberties with the people you love.

His getting engaged to AR was under duress(mom's bad health and he had clarified this and his terms to AR). It was NO Janam Janam ka vaada but a deal (for a family name only, not even a real companionship). The deal can be broken when you find a cheating clause. Goenkas broke it when they found out about Harsh's lie about dates so AB is also entitled to do the same when he found out about AR's lies. He didn't do it for that reason is a different story but he was not in the wrong for doing it.

I think I understand what your problem is with the situation or what I have come to understand from your post history. You tend to think in terms of social definitives like rituals (Tilak, engagement, etc. ) and you feel these are the things that are needed to make or break a relationship, but the general audience doesn't think that (or at least AB doesn't think that). In reality, emotions are what make, guide or break a relationship. You can have a couple who got married with all show-sha still at odds with each other and end up divorced and you have a couple who run away and get married in a court having long happy relationships. If we go by your logic, no person whose engagement got broken would ever get married again in the world. But in the grand scheme of things, these stupid rituals absolutely mean zilch. You can choose to be hung up on them and waste your life and bandwidth arguing with people that they do but people and life move on.

Now coming to his fight for love part,

His actions towards AK (only AK, not AR because that was a deal) might be questionable but his emotions never were. The guy conveys his love and pain through his eyes and everyone other than the AR (even the G clan) could see that or sense that.

Abhimanyu really didn't give 2 hoots to families so winning their approval wasn't a difficulty for him. What was difficult was not able to be with his love AK because she gave all the hoots. So he stood with her and her way of doing things. But he didn't have to do any Maine Pyaar Kiya stunt I agree. The man is honest to a fault. He was ready to talk and convince (never got a chance to do that) but not get a personality transplant (because that's plain dishonesty that's not who you really are).

He was just being himself in front of them a doctor and a lover. The Goenka's we're convinced because they saw his sincerity not because he changed for them. They accepted him as he is. BP even said "He is different from other people but he is not wrong"

I know fighting or convincing family might look really grand on screen but in reality, those people are non-entities in a lifetime relationship. If you change yourself for these external reasons you are being dishonest with yourself and them because old habits die hard. You will be back to your habits and they would be back to disapproving of you. It's better that they like you for who you are and that you start your relationship with complete honesty.

In conclusion, he fought (maybe not as grandly as Prem or any other unrealistic Bollywood hero) not against the family but always against his beloved and for his love. This is harder. His love was tested time and again by no one other than Akshara and he passed with flying colors every time. It's how you can fight for your partner and for your love even when things are bad that makes you a real partner/lover.

WOW I REALLY LOVED THIS. yes you're right- it's itv, so they will show a lot of morally unethical things but then its also shown how he loves the girl so hard. She completes him and he completes her....

i may not be as expressive as you but i understand what you're trying to convey......

We need more posts like this that don't see in black and white but in grey.....really nice......

i would love if you make a post on why abhira fell for each other, how much realistic u find it etc...i've made a post in this recently writing my take......i would love if u add yours!!

Originally posted by: Antara_302

I think you are misunderstanding what the Twitter audience is trying to convey in 280 characters.

When they (even I) say he fought for his love tooth and nail, it's not against the world or the family but his lover Akshara herself. He fought for her love when AK herself gave up. It's difficult to fight with family and convince them for your love I agree but it's an impossible fight when you are fighting against your love itself. He fought against AK's selfish sacrifice. He was rude, brash, and impulsive (but only towards AK, not even AR) because he felt his love gave him that right. You only take liberties with the people you love.

His getting engaged to AR was under duress(mom's bad health and he had clarified this and his terms to AR). It was NO Janam Janam ka vaada but a deal (for a family name only, not even a real companionship). The deal can be broken when you find a cheating clause. Goenkas broke it when they found out about Harsh's lie about dates so AB is also entitled to do the same when he found out about AR's lies. He didn't do it for that reason is a different story but he was not in the wrong for doing it.

I think I understand what your problem is with the situation or what I have come to understand from your post history. You tend to think in terms of social definitives like rituals (Tilak, engagement, etc. ) and you feel these are the things that are needed to make or break a relationship, but the general audience doesn't think that (or at least AB doesn't think that). In reality, emotions are what make, guide or break a relationship. You can have a couple who got married with all show-sha still at odds with each other and end up divorced and you have a couple who run away and get married in a court having long happy relationships. If we go by your logic, no person whose engagement got broken would ever get married again in the world. But in the grand scheme of things, these stupid rituals absolutely mean zilch. You can choose to be hung up on them and waste your life and bandwidth arguing with people that they do but people and life move on.

Now coming to his fight for love part,

His actions towards AK (only AK, not AR because that was a deal) might be questionable but his emotions never were. The guy conveys his love and pain through his eyes and everyone other than the AR (even the G clan) could see that or sense that.

Abhimanyu really didn't give 2 hoots to families so winning their approval wasn't a difficulty for him. What was difficult was not able to be with his love AK because she gave all the hoots. So he stood with her and her way of doing things. But he didn't have to do any Maine Pyaar Kiya stunt I agree. The man is honest to a fault. He was ready to talk and convince (never got a chance to do that) but not get a personality transplant (because that's plain dishonesty that's not who you really are).

He was just being himself in front of them a doctor and a lover. The Goenka's we're convinced because they saw his sincerity not because he changed for them. They accepted him as he is. BP even said "He is different from other people but he is not wrong"

I know fighting or convincing family might look really grand on screen but in reality, those people are non-entities in a lifetime relationship. If you change yourself for these external reasons you are being dishonest with yourself and them because old habits die hard. You will be back to your habits and they would be back to disapproving of you. It's better that they like you for who you are and that you start your relationship with complete honesty.

In conclusion, he fought (maybe not as grandly as Prem or any other unrealistic Bollywood hero) not against the family but always against his beloved and for his love. This is harder. His love was tested time and again by no one other than Akshara and he passed with flying colors every time. It's how you can fight for your partner and for your love even when things are bad that makes you a real partner/lover.

@bold: BANG ON

As per initial plot the story revolved around 3 characters.. but I guess as the viewers have gone crazy about #Abhira, the makers might have diverted the focus to Abhira and dumped Aarohi’s character. Now, let’s forget what all happened in the past. Let’s forget about the logistics. Abhira have come so far, and so should we. I’m interested to see what they gonna show post wedding. I hope to see something different like their struggle in building up their relationships with each other and with the rest of the family members.. Doctor marrying a non doctor sounds very odd, there will be lot of problems because of lack of understanding. So I want to see how they handle all these. If the makers still continue to show Abhira’s romance rather than their realistic lifestyle, I’m done with this show. We have seen enough of it,

Originally posted by: DiamondLife

Thank you for the tag born...

This is my POV

I am pissed of AK' muteness since the beginning of the show...

For me, she is the sole reason for hardship of their love acceptance to elders...She pushed Ar to him forcefully...I felt she was very rude to him and his love feelings..after Ar-Abhi got engaged, still she was enjoying his attention.

Even Goenkas were ready for Ak-Abhi, still she backed off for Ar whatever was the reason (abuse as majority feel).

Ar was very greedy to get Abhi for her power couple achievement and her career...Ar has no self respect. Abhi tried to pursue Ar because of his mother's health..he made her clear that he will love only her sister for the life still Ar said yes..

Even it is not shown, but i was and am 1000000% confident that Abhi would have run away from the marriage with Ar on the wedding day. Even Ak had accepted his hove or not, he would have ditched Ar for sure....because deep down Abhi still respects the marriage importance that once it happens he has to fulfill somehow...

Ak really drove him mad, crazy by giving him mixed signals all the time...yes no yes no...as He mentioned that to Anisha...He went through a lot emotionally by Ak behaviour and rejections..how will Anisha handle it for Kairav's mixed signal and rejection...

Abhi was and always clear that he loves only AK...Ak was confused to accept his love or not for Ar shake. Once she knew Ar does not love him, she was rebellious and one push from Abhi, she confessed. Because of Ak's late confession, Abhi had to go through so much for gaining Goenka's trust back.

Sorry i completely disagree that Abhi used his doctor skills to get yes from Bade papa..He Genuinely did his best to save Manish..He was joking that he has given some injection to Manish that he will agree. But Manish experiencing near death situation opened his heart to accept at least 2 children - AK and Kairav's happiness before he closes his eyes.

Very good post and matches with 99% of my thoughts what I put here :) I totally missed last part and you covered it

Originally posted by: Antara_302

I think you are misunderstanding what the Twitter audience is trying to convey in 280 characters.

When they (even I) say he fought for his love tooth and nail, it's not against the world or the family but his lover Akshara herself. He fought for her love when AK herself gave up. It's difficult to fight with family and convince them for your love I agree but it's an impossible fight when you are fighting against your love itself. He fought against AK's selfish sacrifice. He was rude, brash, and impulsive (but only towards AK, not even AR) because he felt his love gave him that right. You only take liberties with the people you love.

His getting engaged to AR was under duress(mom's bad health and he had clarified this and his terms to AR). It was NO Janam Janam ka vaada but a deal (for a family name only, not even a real companionship). The deal can be broken when you find a cheating clause. Goenkas broke it when they found out about Harsh's lie about dates so AB is also entitled to do the same when he found out about AR's lies. He didn't do it for that reason is a different story but he was not in the wrong for doing it.

I think I understand what your problem is with the situation or what I have come to understand from your post history. You tend to think in terms of social definitives like rituals (Tilak, engagement, etc. ) and you feel these are the things that are needed to make or break a relationship, but the general audience doesn't think that (or at least AB doesn't think that). In reality, emotions are what make, guide or break a relationship. You can have a couple who got married with all show-sha still at odds with each other and end up divorced and you have a couple who run away and get married in a court having long happy relationships. If we go by your logic, no person whose engagement got broken would ever get married again in the world. But in the grand scheme of things, these stupid rituals absolutely mean zilch. You can choose to be hung up on them and waste your life and bandwidth arguing with people that they do but people and life move on.

Now coming to his fight for love part,

His actions towards AK (only AK, not AR because that was a deal) might be questionable but his emotions never were. The guy conveys his love and pain through his eyes and everyone other than the AR (even the G clan) could see that or sense that.

Abhimanyu really didn't give 2 hoots to families so winning their approval wasn't a difficulty for him. What was difficult was not able to be with his love AK because she gave all the hoots. So he stood with her and her way of doing things. But he didn't have to do any Maine Pyaar Kiya stunt I agree. The man is honest to a fault. He was ready to talk and convince (never got a chance to do that) but not get a personality transplant (because that's plain dishonesty that's not who you really are).

He was just being himself in front of them a doctor and a lover. The Goenka's we're convinced because they saw his sincerity not because he changed for them. They accepted him as he is. BP even said "He is different from other people but he is not wrong"

I know fighting or convincing family might look really grand on screen but in reality, those people are non-entities in a lifetime relationship. If you change yourself for these external reasons you are being dishonest with yourself and them because old habits die hard. You will be back to your habits and they would be back to disapproving of you. It's better that they like you for who you are and that you start your relationship with complete honesty.

In conclusion, he fought (maybe not as grandly as Prem or any other unrealistic Bollywood hero) not against the family but always against his beloved and for his love. This is harder. His love was tested time and again by no one other than Akshara and he passed with flying colors every time. It's how you can fight for your partner and for your love even when things are bad that makes you a real partner/lover.

Same goes for akshara too, she is a victim of years of abuse and yes she takes time , accept her flaws but when she decides to go with something which she believes in she fight the world for that and that way aksshu too is flawed bt relatable character and thats wht makes abhira a complete package ❤️

I can give you several real life examples of how society's insistence on rituals and marriage ends up in overall disaster for everyone:

1. A few years ago, my cousin was supposed to get married to a doctor who backtracked from marriage a day before. He was being forced to marry but he chose at the last moment to be with his love instead. The funny thing is not only the groom's family but the bride's family had an idea that the guy was unhappy. He had told my cousin that he had a gf he broke up with and was getting married for his family. But they still chose to proceed in the rishta and ended up getting jilted. My uncle was obsessed with getting a doctor damad was partly the reason for this mishap (eerie similarity I know). The families were also rushing through the rituals incase the groom gets cold feet, which he did. (Another eerie similarity I know)

It was sad but really not the end of the world for my cousin. Everyone in the family agreed to not talk about it ever and it was forgotten just like that. She got an even better rishta 1 or 2 years later another doctor but this time they proceeded cautiously and with everyone's free will. They got themselves a happy marriage with 2 kids now. Now granted my cousin is no Aarohi but an Akshara irl who just abides by the family it might be her good karma didn't have to get humiliated about her lies in front of society. So being a good person does pay off at the end of the day.

Many more juicy stories I have from that side of family but will post them in relevant posts if needed.

Originally posted by: Antara_302

I can give you several real life examples of how society's insistence on rituals and marriage ends up in overall disaster for everyone:

1. A few years ago, my cousin was supposed to get married to a doctor who backtracked from marriage a day before. He was being forced to marry but he chose at the last moment to be with his love instead. The funny thing is not only the groom's family but the bride's family had an idea that the guy was unhappy. He had told my cousin that he had a gf he broke up with and was getting married for his family. But they still chose to proceed in the rishta and ended up getting jilted. My uncle was obsessed with getting a doctor damad was partly the reason for this mishap (eerie similarity I know). The families were also rushing through the rituals incase the groom gets cold feet, which he did. (Another eerie similarity I know)

It was sad but really not the end of the world for my cousin. Everyone in the family agreed to not talk about it ever and it was forgotten just like that. She got an even better rishta 1 or 2 years later another doctor but this time they proceeded cautiously and with everyone's free will. They got themselves a happy marriage with 2 kids now. Now granted my cousin is no Aarohi but an Akshara irl who just abides by the family it might be her good karma didn't have to get humiliated about her lies in front of society. So being a good person does pay off at the end of the day.

Many more juicy stories I have from that side of family but will post them in relevant posts if needed.

Originally posted by: Antara_302

I think you are misunderstanding what the Twitter audience is trying to convey in 280 characters.

When they (even I) say he fought for his love tooth and nail, it's not against the world or the family but his lover Akshara herself. He fought for her love when AK herself gave up. It's difficult to fight with family and convince them for your love I agree but it's an impossible fight when you are fighting against your love itself. He fought against AK's selfish sacrifice. He was rude, brash, and impulsive (but only towards AK, not even AR) because he felt his love gave him that right. You only take liberties with the people you love.

His getting engaged to AR was under duress(mom's bad health and he had clarified this and his terms to AR). It was NO Janam Janam ka vaada but a deal (for a family name only, not even a real companionship). The deal can be broken when you find a cheating clause. Goenkas broke it when they found out about Harsh's lie about dates so AB is also entitled to do the same when he found out about AR's lies. He didn't do it for that reason is a different story but he was not in the wrong for doing it.

I think I understand what your problem is with the situation or what I have come to understand from your post history. You tend to think in terms of social definitives like rituals (Tilak, engagement, etc. ) and you feel these are the things that are needed to make or break a relationship, but the general audience doesn't think that (or at least AB doesn't think that). In reality, emotions are what make, guide or break a relationship. You can have a couple who got married with all show-sha still at odds with each other and end up divorced and you have a couple who run away and get married in a court having long happy relationships. If we go by your logic, no person whose engagement got broken would ever get married again in the world. But in the grand scheme of things, these stupid rituals absolutely mean zilch. You can choose to be hung up on them and waste your life and bandwidth arguing with people that they do but people and life move on.

Now coming to his fight for love part,

His actions towards AK (only AK, not AR because that was a deal) might be questionable but his emotions never were. The guy conveys his love and pain through his eyes and everyone other than the AR (even the G clan) could see that or sense that.

Abhimanyu really didn't give 2 hoots to families so winning their approval wasn't a difficulty for him. What was difficult was not able to be with his love AK because she gave all the hoots. So he stood with her and her way of doing things. But he didn't have to do any Maine Pyaar Kiya stunt I agree. The man is honest to a fault. He was ready to talk and convince (never got a chance to do that) but not get a personality transplant (because that's plain dishonesty that's not who you really are).

He was just being himself in front of them a doctor and a lover. The Goenka's we're convinced because they saw his sincerity not because he changed for them. They accepted him as he is. BP even said "He is different from other people but he is not wrong"

I know fighting or convincing family might look really grand on screen but in reality, those people are non-entities in a lifetime relationship. If you change yourself for these external reasons you are being dishonest with yourself and them because old habits die hard. You will be back to your habits and they would be back to disapproving of you. It's better that they like you for who you are and that you start your relationship with complete honesty.

In conclusion, he fought (maybe not as grandly as Prem or any other unrealistic Bollywood hero) not against the family but always against his beloved and for his love. This is harder. His love was tested time and again by no one other than Akshara and he passed with flying colors every time. It's how you can fight for your partner and for your love even when things are bad that makes you a real partner/lover.