Gadhi ka gadha - Aryan as a husband and family to Imlie

copying my post over from the Arylie AT

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lmao, am I the only one that liked today's episode? just want to share my perspective... apologies in advance for the essay, I haven't written this much since my university exams 😂

I know it seems out of character for Aryan to not believe that Arpita wouldn't say something to him if she was important and tell Imlie that she shouldn't interfere in his 'family' matters, but is it really? Aryan's pride and his family have always been his blind spots and the things that make him act most unlike his more rational and strict persona. Just because he has been built up to be a 'perfect' person and pati, doesn't mean that he actually is - he's a complex and flawed person and that is what makes him interesting! (I also feel like the criticism for Imlie vs. Aryan is very gendered but that is a wholeeeee other conversation 😂)

Aryan has never responded well to Imlie looking into his life, he never liked her interference in his matters and he's always been super protective and possessive of his mom and Arpi. We saw this during Arvind-related things too. Imlie has said before that she and her life are an open book to him but he does not reciprocate. That is still very much the case in my opinion.

The first couple of tracks after he came in were around Imlie and her life, so we got to see her struggle and fall weak and him come in and be her support. Post-marriage we've seen that shift to tracks that are about him and his family (because she is finally privy to them as his wife, he's still a mostly closed book) so now we see him struggle and fall weak at times, now Imlie will come in and be his support during those times. That's their 50-50 relationship coming out. You can't just have Imlie be in trouble/wrong all the time and Aryan come in and fix things - it leads to an unbalanced relationship where Imlie is never really able to be a strong person/character on her own because she is always overshadowed by the magnitude of 'Aryan Singh Rathore'.

Aryan is a good mentor and a good friend to Imlie and we saw those relationships build over time - it took time to become both of those things and we got to see progression in his feelings and actions towards Imlie in 100+ episodes. He was harsh to her in their first few interactions, those roles didn't come naturally to him. Post-marriage we are now seeing him shifting from the mentor and friend role to now becoming her husband and family, which is a very different type of relationship and feeling.

Aryan isn't a good husband or family member to Imlie yet. He doesn't really even consider Imlie his wife and family yet - you see this in him continuously reminding her (and himself) that she's just his employee. After he tells Imlie to not come back at the end of the Arvind track, he says that he wants to move on with his family and then names his mom and Arpita only. If he can't fully recognize or admit to himself that Imlie is his family, how is he supposed to act on it properly?

Most of their current relationship's intimacy and understanding are carried over from their mentor and friendship relationship - which has served them well as the basis for them being together (e.g. him having bharosa in her not cheating is him knowing her character from knowing her and working with her for months, this is not a husbandly thing for him to do IMO) but now we're starting to see that that's not enough for them. They are butting heads and playing this push and pull game that results in misunderstandings because they haven't figured out their new relationship dynamics yet.

This results in him doing stupid things like locking her in her room or saying hurtful things like 'leave me and my family matters alone because we'll deal with them ourselves' (I'm going to be honest, I cried when Imlie cried about not having any apne after Aryan said this - I was so heartbroken for her). It's not really a malicious act nor is it necessarily character butchering of Aryan, it's simply them struggling to get to the next step of their relationship.

I think this Sundar-Arpita wedding track is meant to bring Arylie closer together and give them more insight into their feelings for each other. I don't think it's going to do 100% of that work (future tracks like the rumoured ex-gf entry and Meethi forcing Imlie reveal will do this instead) - instead, it could just be that it reveals the Aryan not thinking of Imlie as a family piece (which started to happen during today's episode) and gets them to resolve it. It's going to be angsty but ultimately their relationship will be stronger after they go through this together.

I loved how Imlie threw his words back at him in the promo for tomorrow and told him that she was removing herself from the situation rather than just giving in and staying when she didn't agree with what was happening. That's what makes the two of them together so interesting - they never back down from the other, and eventually bring the other around and work with each other to fight battles together.

It's going to be interesting to see what Aryan's response will be to what Imlie said in the promo, he's a little bit of a gadha 😂 though so I don't expect him to correct himself or apologize right away - probs going to take him more time.

I lovvvvvved the episode and this stupid track is not about Sundar-Arpita at all, but a means to bring out their latent insecurities.

We have never ever seen Aryan being vulnerable about his place in Imlie's life even as a husband. He loves best when he loves without expectations.

He is a good husband; he repeats "Imlie; my wife" as many times as he breathes. But he puts little distances between them because he doesn't want her to be burdened by the expectations that come with a marriage especiallly when he thinks that she's just upholding the sanctity of the ritual.

Now that he has a premonition about what transpired between Meethi and Imlie, and the imminent heartbreak to him, my poor boy is just trying to delay the ache.

All the talks about "Sundar se problem hai toh humse kaahe nahi rahi" and "Didi family ke liye zabardasti shaadi nahi karegi" are projections, and they are needed for them to address each other.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

I lovvvvvved the episode and this stupid track is not about Sundar-Arpita at all, but a means to bring out their latent insecurities.

We have never ever seen Aryan being vulnerable about his place in Imlie's life even as a husband. He loves best when he loves without expectations.

He is a good husband; he repeats "Imlie; my wife" as many times as he breathes. But he puts little distances between them because he doesn't want her to be burdened by the expectations that come with a marriage especiallly when he thinks that she's just upholding the sanctity of the ritual.

Now that he has a premonition about what transpired between Meethi and Imlie, and the imminent heartbreak to him, my poor boy is just trying to delay the ache.

All the talks about "Sundar se problem hai toh humse kaahe nahi rahi" and "Didi family ke liye zabardasti shaadi nahi karegi" are projections, and they are needed for them to address each other.

@bold: love this perspective, never thought of it like this! you're totally right - this is probs where the 'don't be typical biwi/bahu' lines come from

I am okay with everything except the fact tht sasta asr is fooling the rathores.

This was much needed thanks.... It really feels like they are in the same place in the relationship even after marriage...

Normally all the wedding rituals would do the trick to bring the couple closer, but they were in conflict during wedding and all the post marriage normalcy only worked so far to restore the old dynamics.

Now to move further together, there needs to be some arguments, disagreements, some good moments some sad moments.

Originally posted by: rnrozzy

copying my post over from the Arylie AT

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lmao, am I the only one that liked today's episode? just want to share my perspective... apologies in advance for the essay, I haven't written this much since my university exams 😂

I know it seems out of character for Aryan to not believe that Arpita wouldn't say something to him if she was important and tell Imlie that she shouldn't interfere in his 'family' matters, but is it really? Aryan's pride and his family have always been his blind spots and the things that make him act most unlike his more rational and strict persona. Just because he has been built up to be a 'perfect' person and pati, doesn't mean that he actually is - he's a complex and flawed person and that is what makes him interesting! (I also feel like the criticism for Imlie vs. Aryan is very gendered but that is a wholeeeee other conversation 😂)

Aryan has never responded well to Imlie looking into his life, he never liked her interference in his matters and he's always been super protective and possessive of his mom and Arpi. We saw this during Arvind-related things too. Imlie has said before that she and her life are an open book to him but he does not reciprocate. That is still very much the case in my opinion.

The first couple of tracks after he came in were around Imlie and her life, so we got to see her struggle and fall weak and him come in and be her support. Post-marriage we've seen that shift to tracks that are about him and his family (because she is finally privy to them as his wife, he's still a mostly closed book) so now we see him struggle and fall weak at times, now Imlie will come in and be his support during those times. That's their 50-50 relationship coming out. You can't just have Imlie be in trouble/wrong all the time and Aryan come in and fix things - it leads to an unbalanced relationship where Imlie is never really able to be a strong person/character on her own because she is always overshadowed by the magnitude of 'Aryan Singh Rathore'.

Aryan is a good mentor and a good friend to Imlie and we saw those relationships build over time - it took time to become both of those things and we got to see progression in his feelings and actions towards Imlie in 100+ episodes. He was harsh to her in their first few interactions, those roles didn't come naturally to him. Post-marriage we are now seeing him shifting from the mentor and friend role to now becoming her husband and family, which is a very different type of relationship and feeling.

Aryan isn't a good husband or family member to Imlie yet. He doesn't really even consider Imlie his wife and family yet - you see this in him continuously reminding her (and himself) that she's just his employee. After he tells Imlie to not come back at the end of the Arvind track, he says that he wants to move on with his family and then names his mom and Arpita only. If he can't fully recognize or admit to himself that Imlie is his family, how is he supposed to act on it properly?

Most of their current relationship's intimacy and understanding are carried over from their mentor and friendship relationship - which has served them well as the basis for them being together (e.g. him having bharosa in her not cheating is him knowing her character from knowing her and working with her for months, this is not a husbandly thing for him to do IMO) but now we're starting to see that that's not enough for them. They are butting heads and playing this push and pull game that results in misunderstandings because they haven't figured out their new relationship dynamics yet.

This results in him doing stupid things like locking her in her room or saying hurtful things like 'leave me and my family matters alone because we'll deal with them ourselves' (I'm going to be honest, I cried when Imlie cried about not having any apne after Aryan said this - I was so heartbroken for her). It's not really a malicious act nor is it necessarily character butchering of Aryan, it's simply them struggling to get to the next step of their relationship.

I think this Sundar-Arpita wedding track is meant to bring Arylie closer together and give them more insight into their feelings for each other. I don't think it's going to do 100% of that work (future tracks like the rumoured ex-gf entry and Meethi forcing Imlie reveal will do this instead) - instead, it could just be that it reveals the Aryan not thinking of Imlie as a family piece (which started to happen during today's episode) and gets them to resolve it. It's going to be angsty but ultimately their relationship will be stronger after they go through this together.

I loved how Imlie threw his words back at him in the promo for tomorrow and told him that she was removing herself from the situation rather than just giving in and staying when she didn't agree with what was happening. That's what makes the two of them together so interesting - they never back down from the other, and eventually bring the other around and work with each other to fight battles together.

It's going to be interesting to see what Aryan's response will be to what Imlie said in the promo, he's a little bit of a gadha 😂 though so I don't expect him to correct himself or apologize right away - probs going to take him more time.

I only have my questions:

1. Why did he marry Imlie, he could have done many things to stop her going back to ATK, but why did he marry her forcefully? If he doesn't understand what wife means, then just divorce her. Very simple, right?

2. If he doesn't like her interference in his family matter, then, he should himself stay out of her family matter. But, then why is he interfering?

3. If he was so bound to not hurt Imlie, then why make her go through the same things that happened with her before?

4. When he said, he will never leave Imlie's side, was that a thing he really promised, or just said it? Does he even get the magnitude of how much suffering he has inflicted on Imlie?

5. Does he even knows that, Imlie is all alone? Does he even sees it that, she is working like a maniac to keep her distracted from all the relationships she has lost in one go, for one of his wrong decision?

6. Does he even knows that, her mother called her life a karz because her mother wanted to make Imlie get married to Aryan at all costs?

7. Did he already forget she was tortured to hell from the pre-wedding rituals? She was kidnapped for 2 times, etc. and he did not do anything about it.

8. Do you guys are even seeing the show in a neutral point of view?

I am not saying that the points pointed out were wrong. I also support Aryan, but, not in this thing, he dared to say that, Imlie is not a part of his family. Oh wow👏, wonderful👏. Then BD and BM are also the same😳. But he is listening to their opinion 👏. Very good, right👍🏼? Imlie is already in a state where any girl will think, they are better off running away or dying, and you guys are only focusing on Aryan Singh Rathore only. Very very good🤗. I am very happy for all of you 🥳. How can you all not place yourself in her place for this one thing and see her heart dying 🤣. She will better be off, being a cold character, instead of a mature childish and warm charecter🤣.

Originally posted by: rnrozzy

@bold: love this perspective, never thought of it like this! you're totally right - this is probs where the 'don't be typical biwi/bahu' lines come from

Yes.. He has done this before too when she was insisting on investigation of Arvind's case.. abhi tum apna kaam chod ke iske picche lagogi..

Main reason for him marrying her was to stop wasting away her talent n capabilities behind daily dramas of Tripathi's. He wouldn't want her to do that same with his family too. Especially ,when he knows that she has not accepted this relationship willing..

Originally posted by: shalu79

Yes.. He has done this before too when she was insisting on investigation of Arvind's case.. abhi tum apna kaam chod ke iske picche lagogi..

Main reason for him marrying her was to stop wasting away her talent n capabilities behind daily dramas of Tripathi's. He wouldn't want her to do that same with his family too. Especially ,when he knows that she has not accepted this relationship willing..

Yaar ye kitchen politics ki magnet yaha bhi wohi karne lag gai na, toh kya hi point hua...

College jao office jao ya bhad me jao 👀🤦

Originally posted by: SundariP

Yaar ye kitchen politics ki magnet yaha bhi wohi karne lag gai na, toh kya hi point hua...

College jao office jao ya bhad me jao 👀🤦

Bichara bhavnao ke chakravyuh mein phassa hai

In Arpita's case, he is feeling guilty n he is protective n sensitive about her.

N on top of that His own feelings for Imlie which he may have realised but don't want to accept as with acceptance there will be expectations too.. He definitely yearns for her love however believes that she won't love him ever. So, his best best defence mechanism is denial n pushing her away...

Upaar se these days her constant Ladki ki marzi statement is making him feel dejected that Imlie is in this relationship without her willingness. Trigger ho raha banda.

Originally posted by: rnrozzy

Aryan isn't a good husband or family member to Imlie yet. He doesn't really even consider Imlie his wife and family yet - you see this in him continuously reminding her (and himself) that she's just his employee. After he tells Imlie to not come back at the end of the Arvind track, he says that he wants to move on with his family and then names his mom and Arpita only. If he can't fully recognize or admit to himself that Imlie is his family, how is he supposed to act on it properly?

Most of their current relationship's intimacy and understanding are carried over from their mentor and friendship relationship - which has served them well as the basis for them being together (e.g. him having bharosa in her not cheating is him knowing her character from knowing her and working with her for months, this is not a husbandly thing for him to do IMO) but now we're starting to see that that's not enough for them. They are butting heads and playing this push and pull game that results in misunderstandings because they haven't figured out their new relationship dynamics yet.

This results in him doing stupid things like locking her in her room or saying hurtful things like 'leave me and my family matters alone because we'll deal with them ourselves' (I'm going to be honest, I cried when Imlie cried about not having any apne after Aryan said this - I was so heartbroken for her). It's not really a malicious act nor is it necessarily character butchering of Aryan, it's simply them struggling to get to the next step of their relationship.

u write beautiful analysis. both imlie aryan need time for process this new rship cos both in denial abt love cos both fear rejection. imlie think aryan dont love her n aryan already know imlie said she will never love so after that dya he close his mind + force marriage n even tday he got angry - they dint show his anger but he got angry when she said that all girls dont marry happy but for family n he dint allow her to say more n said for u this marriage not ideal so dnt be ideal bahu n leave family matter. at that time imlie ws not talking abt her marriage but general for girls. n actually imlie also dint understand why he got angry n said that cos she dint even realised what she said. it ws not for aryan.

but leave this comment i think ur @bold sentence. aryan not yet know what imlie want actually. aryan only see her fire, power n mitthi dreams. aryan made mitthi goal his goal n it more like he want to make mitthi happy than imlie cos he have some big respect for mitthi more than imlie i said this before also. so actually he want to save mitthi ki gudia from T family but he has not sat down n think what imlie want. no not about AKT or T family but what she want. he knows actually but he never understood. imlie want apne, apna parivaar. he always see imlie become bali ka bakra for T family n he dont like or respect them cos they selfish in his eyes n using imlie but he dont understand imlie loneliness. that why after their fake marriage when arpita tell him 3 things she make so much sense - v dont realise imlie is alone cos she keep smiling n making all laugh. aryan feel a lot for imlie n he even know she has told him how she dint have father, then got T family in delhi n that why they are so important to her but he not yet understood why imlie become mad for people who give her little love also like kakima and arpita.. cos she want to have feeling of haq of being part of family. if he understand this he will automatically understand what she want why she doing what she does n what he need to give her to make her happy. i m nto saying that he treat her like that but aryan cant think imlie is only a machine who will work work work n win award for her dream like how he can become machine without emotion if he want. imilie is not like that she cannot leave emotion on side. he have to see behind the dream of becoming big journalist she also a woman who need love n now her eyes searching for that in his face but he denying cos he has taken v seiously dil pe her "hum kisi aur se kabhi pyaar nahi kari hain" n all her hard word during marriage now he is using on her when she not even talking abt them directly. what he tell her today was in anger n if u hear full conversation u know he give instant angry reaction when she speak marzi wala haan sentence n it ws finish for him n he just use the same sharp knife to give her back. this is push n pull of frustation in love time when cant confess. tomorrow when she say i want to go dont know if he will stop her or let her go thinking she want to go now finally ,..... but jo bhi ho, hum toh peeche peeche aayenge hi 😆