Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Meiin Spoilers Thread #13 - Page 8

Originally posted by: mysticriver

They don't know subtlety. Also people got more frustrated with touchy scenes of theirs as there's social distancing between leads in the show. Touchy scenes between ML/3rd angles aren't uncommon, I've seen worse than this show but in those other shows leads have crazy intimacy so it kinda neutralize the whole thing that's not what happened here. That's why I've decided if this aspect doesn't change even with confession is around the corner, I'll sign off.

Yes ...subtlety inko aata hi nahi hai. 😳

I know we get all sorts of crazy scenes in ITV with the third angle....but Ghum should not be written carelessly like these shows - its a cardinal sin. Ghum is supposed to be more realistic...where each and every nuance in plot, every single gesture, behaviour of characters, every little dialogue means something. So you need to be careful of what comes across to the audience....KD maintained that nuance and sensitivity. But Vanku just loves his cringe.

Oh don't expect anything tomorrow. SaiRat might play ring-a-ringa roses with those handcuffs on. 🤣

I agree with your point. Showing that physical pull and intimacy was important in a story like ghum. But they turned it into a sanskaari romance....pure, white dil ka rishta.😆 That physical tension was there until holi...after that it became too sanskaari and cutesy. It is unbelievable that these two have so much meditation power. 🤪

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Oh don't expect anything tomorrow. SaiRat might play ring-a-ringa roses with those handcuffs on. 🤣

I agree with your point. Showing that physical pull and intimacy was important in a story like ghum. But they turned it into a sanskaari romance....pure, white dil ka rishta.😆 That physical tension was there until holi...after that it became too sanskaari and cutesy. It is unbelievable that these two have so much meditation power. 🤪

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Shruti track was very badly written and badly acted by all the actors in ghum ..

most definitely grumpy shruti who throughout looked like virat’s aunty ..

there was no logical reason for anyone to believe that virat would fall for her leaving aside Sai and pakhi at home ..

It definitely looked like he had a one night stand and was trapped ..through pregnancy..

wish they had written the track better and got a more appropriate actress ..

If they had to bring in KD elements . They should have followed KD timeline .
If they had to bring in another woman before confession then they should have got a younger actress.. who needed the ACP’s protection something like Jurm .Thoda sa toh change karna tha ..

In a way I am very very happy they shortchanged ghum and started other serials but all are failing and might shut shop . So they have no option but just focus of this ..

We can see the difference when they started getting Sachin Shroff as an important cameo .. otherwise they were getting bad actors who were just doing Vella panti ..

Mohit ( bad choice , shruti ( terrible ) )

regarding NB acting .. I felt he himself was not convinced that virat could fall for shruti .. ( it was so outlandish) and he failed to portray it ..

Virat and Rono are different personalities… Rono was believable.. he was not friendly with all ..

I hope for story’s sake they don’t bring in shruti again .. give her a bye bye .. if they have to bring in another woman . Thry can copy from some other story and get someone who looks younger .. ( don’t care if shafaq is younger than NB .. for star plus audience she is Shaheer sheikh’s mother .. so she is Aunty definitely) 😂😂

Originally posted by: scarlett22

I stopped watching the Shruti track because it made no sense whatsoever.

I was thinking about Neil. Everything else aside, seeing the few BTS that have come in ..a lot of shots of Sairat are being edited. Virat is a complicated character, I think he took it too lightly. Though he generally does what the director says ..is my feeling. They are not writing scenes intimate enough for a married couple.

Which is why when you asked me about the handcuffs, i really don't know...if they make it all playful, the whole point is lost. If it involves a different version of them chatting lying close to each other like in KD, they better show it well..

What I'm saying is I am not sure if Neil is entirely at fault. Though he has other issues😆.

Now his limitations as an actor, it became apparent during the Shruti track. He is getting his mojo because this current track is his comfort zone. I knew he will come back. But these limitations means the other horrid tracks coming up, we will be served with cringe & more cringe alongwith incomprehensible acting.

Agree...

He is one reason for such downfall... He took his role too lightly... I was not a fan of Rishi kaushik but he was tad better than Neil in this particular track..

Writers were also do laid back during then. Shruti hugging Virat and How he changed his clothes in front her those were not needed.. Rono never allowed shruti in his room.. If shruti fell for him it's mostly her fault.. Over here virat literally led her on..

So the bottom line is the combination of direction and acting led such down fall..

Wonder why fans never asked those aspect to vanker instead of asking SaiRat scene..now he is shoving SaiRat scenes to prove a point which has nothing to do with actual story line.. If Neil continues to perform like this how this show is gonna survive I am afraid..

Last year Trp were more than this year's during IPL season..

Originally posted by: msin

Shruti track was very badly written and badly acted by all the actors in ghum ..

most definitely grumpy shruti who throughout looked like virat’s aunty ..

there was no logical reason for anyone to believe that virat would fall for her leaving aside Sai and pakhi at home ..

It definitely looked like he had a one night stand and was trapped ..through pregnancy..

wish they had written the track better and got a more appropriate actress ..

If they had to bring in KD elements . They should have followed KD timeline .
If they had to bring in another woman before confession then they should have got a younger actress.. who needed the ACP’s protection something like Jurm .Thoda sa toh change karna tha ..

In a way I am very very happy they shortchanged ghum and started other serials but all are failing and might shut shop . So they have no option but just focus of this ..

We can see the difference when they started getting Sachin Shroff as an important cameo .. otherwise they were getting bad actors who were just doing Vella panti ..

Mohit ( bad choice , shruti ( terrible ) )

regarding NB acting .. I felt he himself was not convinced that virat could fall for shruti .. ( it was so outlandish) and he failed to portray it ..

Virat and Rono are different personalities… Rono was believable.. he was not friendly with all ..

I hope for story’s sake they don’t bring in shruti again .. give her a bye bye .. if they have to bring in another woman . Thry can copy from some other story and get someone who looks younger .. ( don’t care if shafaq is younger than NB .. for star plus audience she is Shaheer sheikh’s mother .. so she is Aunty definitely) 😂😂

Neil certainly looked not so convinced.. Because when he left supposed to propose Sai then putting everything is at risk looked out of his character..

However it takes a very experienced actor to put up am inconvincing character to transform into convincing..

Everyone performed better than him and bhartiji 🤢

Ayesha picks up the minute nuances better than him now a days.. Even in hostel when he holds her arms she looked affected then shrugs him off.. Neil can't portray such emotions..

Neil's shortcomings were visible with patchy writing to highlight his dukh dard peeda 🤔..

BTW both shruti looks like aunty 👎🏼..

Originally posted by: mysticriver

I didn't feel that way about the scene. He ended up crying upon hearing Sai's name right from the moment from that doctor's mouth plus when Sai was walking ahead ignoring him, he stopped her by holding her hands but when Sai removed his hand he was crying again but was happy & smiling when Sai took him alongwith her, he was following her whenever she was taking, was crying again when Sai was treating him as a stranger, I got that scene but it was to show Sai is misunderstanding seeing him cry like that he was breaking down infront of her for Shruti, whereas Virat wanted to convey something else. Even the dialogues he spoke none of it had anything related to Shruti. They didn't imply that scene for Virat's breakdown for Shruti. His dialogues were aimed at Sai. There was a similar scene in KD too not Ronno's breakdown as such but Imon misunderstood his behaviour & had same type of dialogues like Sai wish I knew and you had told me about your love for Shruti earlier etc. He couldn't take her indifference towards him anymore. It was like his need to have Sai with him besides there stand by him. If i remember correctly in that episode when broker talks about his wife or something he immediately had flashback of Sai leaving CN.

Eaxctly. Agree with everything.

I haven't seen the operation track episodes (was he praying infront of God? Haven't seen so that might be OTT I agree) or when she pushes injection to Shruti that episode either so can't say about that. But the felicitation one I remember he prayed for Sai as he couldn't be present there aisa kuch followed by praying for Shruti to give her himmat/hasusla/Shakti/sahara (idk remember the exact word he used so wrote these but any of these) to fight battle out for her delivery. I didn't feel that way about that scene either. It seemed normal to me back then too. Haven't seen it a long time so I can't recall his facial expressions in that scene. But I don't remember anything too bad about it. Others can throw lights on both scenes.

I did not find anything wrong in the scene where Virat was praying for Shruthi - she was battling for her life...and he had promised his dying friend...although overall, the scene itself was a little OTT. And it was different from the way he was totally broken when Sai was hospitalized.

I haven't seen all the episodes or scenes from Shruti track but the one scene that really made me infuriate was in the scene in her ward when he was consoling her before her delivery & labour pain began in hospital. That one seemed totally unnecessary. Also the physical contact, touch & hand holding in that scene felt intimate - inappropriate which I didn't like at all irrespective of his intentions. I didn't feel good about it. Also, another thing was him looking at or pointing at her baby bump everytime there was referrence or mention or talks of Sahaas. It used to make me feel awkward & creepy.

Yeah...adjusting her pillow, helping her rest her head - so unecessary and irritating - looked inappropriate...also the hand-holding. They toned it down just a smidge...to be back with a bang ...with the mother of all inappropriate and cringey scene - Shruthi helping Virat change his shirt.🤢

Ooh...missed your tag earlier.

I don't remember the exact dialogue.. but initially it was a little bit like that. Let me find out.

Or maybe i misread.

Shruti track had way too many instances of poor acting and direction. The unecessary closeness between them- physical and emotional, him doing lip service about not wanting her near him but then allowing her to do things and venting about Sai to her, eventually culminating in him not feeling any sense of anger/betrayal when she starts declaring she loves him even after she knows how he put his marriage at stake and supposedly loves his wife, him allowing her to hug him, kiss his hand - all of this is not cool. If she hugged him his reaction should be to push her away firmly. He can console even by pushing her away. He seemed all to casual about her repeated declarations of love, and never angry or uncomfortable.

Similarly he always easily gives in to pp's manipulation. How is she still allowed to enter his room let alone talk to him?!

The makers do this on purpose because they think it's drama but it's just cringe.

I don't see any difference in his reactions when Sai was hospitalized vs Shruti. In both situations he was in tears, and he had the same generic expressions of shock and worry. I dont see him bring out the differences in his behavior. We would like to believe that he was more shaken when Sai was admitted but NB certainly didn't convey that in his acting as V. He is really NOT adept at potraying angst, pain, longing. Just using glycerin or looking haggard doesn't convey emotions. Makers didn't help matters by giving us very little monologues or reflections from V. At no point during the entire Shruti kaand could i feel any sympathy for V- so that makes him an epic fail. He is better in the nok jhok type scenes and the light hearted stuff.

but even in the more lighthearted Sairat scenes now, Ayesha is leaps and bounds better in terms of acting than NB. Its time he matches up to her and elevates the scenes.

He can learn from Sachin Shroff. He has great presence and energy in the scenes. Ayesha-Sachin interactions in scenes are so good, infact Ayesha seems to have figured out that unique chemistry with every member of the cast. She brings a different flavor to each interaction. If a person randomly out of context watched her scenes on mute with mohit/Sam/Rajeev/pulkit/sunny/ajinkya - any character - they would know that none of them were her husband/lover because she brings out that difference just in body language. But cant say the same for NB and his interaction with pp, Shruti. And that kind of ambivalence where he cannot clearly show the difference in his feelings/intensity for his wife vs other women means that he is failing at his job. The one thing I agree is that NB is capable of doing romance quite well when he wants to. Hes had moments where he gives those special admiring, niharoing looks to Sai. But he fails on bringing that distinction between his wife and other women when the scenes are angsty.