Will hate in Indian society increase after Kashmir files?? - Page 4

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

and then people say Hinduphobia....of course jaise some terrorists and extremist Muslims made people scared of Muslim....Hindus are on the same path of having people being scared of them..because of extremist Hindus and political parties.

good try to equate the two morally but there is no comparison. People foaming off at their mouth vs people committing barbaric acts, that's the comparison we should be making. The phrase that comes to mind is moral obfuscation/ equivalence, and is very wrong.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

good try to equate the two morally but there is no comparison. People foaming off at their mouth vs people committing barbaric acts, that's the comparison we should be making. The phrase that comes to mind is moral obfuscation/ equivalence, and is very wrong.

Has it been proven that these are BJP folks? Is it possible to pay off a few people to sloganeer to show a political party in bad light? I am not saying that the above video is a plant but too many hoaxes surrounding hate crimes know what I mean? Jussie Smollett anybody?

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

and then people say Hinduphobia....of course jaise some terrorists and extremist Muslims made people scared of Muslim....Hindus are on the same path of having people being scared of them..because of extremist Hindus and political parties.

there are muslims who stabbed hindus for raising nationalist slogans after watching TKF.

Hinduphobia does exist,it is when people like you have all the inclination in the world for trashing hindus' verbal extremism but aren't even aware of muslims stabbing someone

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

unless someone is a shrink, i cant see how one can jump to the conclusion that the intent of the movie was to enrage. If anything, the intent seems to be to present the brutal happenings the KPs suffered at the hands of a certain community, and to bring their story to light. If it enrages people, that is a side effect.

The fact that people are angry is actually justifiable. Its like what people felt after WW2 when the the full horrors of the holocaust were revealed. Denial, pain, anger, nuremberg trials and punishment... and because the germans atoned for the wrong doings of their nazi compatriots, there ultimately was reconciliation.

That said, i think the movie is very important to ensure we dont have a repeat in WB or kerala. A few members of the majority community foaming their mouths off is nothing compared to the horrors that can still come about if those states go down the kashmir way.

Actually I am.

And i disagree with most of your analysis especially since you seem to think only qualified shrinks can offer their opinions.

Originally posted by: JustWandering

Actually I am.

And i disagree with most of your analysis especially since you seem to think only qualified shrinks can offer their opinions.

My bad... but which aspect of my analysis do you disagree with? Major, not chip shots please

As I already wrote, I mostly hesitate to take things at face value...

Of course those speeches could be staged. And that would be "just" speeches.

It is known that even attacks and killing people are staged to have a reason for acting "against the enemy".

To have a reason to attack Poland, Hitler made stage an attack of (faked) Poles against Germans (where Germans were killed). He wasn't the first one to do such a tactical crime and also not the last one.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

good try to equate the two morally but there is no comparison. People foaming off at their mouth vs people committing barbaric acts, that's the comparison we should be making. The phrase that comes to mind is moral obfuscation/ equivalence, and is very wrong.

You are talking about the Muslim terrorists right?? I hope that you realize that the Muslim terrorists have killed more Muslims and hurt more Muslims than they have people of other religions....I have 0 sympathy for terrorists....when they get killed , this is what they deserve...like Osama deserved to be fish food....but will agree with a Hindu extremists yelling to cut a 6 month old baby in half ?? What is the paap that that little baby do? He wasn't the one who was responsible for the KP killings and exodus?? What is the fault of the young Muslim girls who people are asking Hindu boys to target and marry?

When you say these are people frothing in anger at their mouth....do you think that only young Muslims are capable of being brainwashed into killing others and the young Hindus can't be brainwashed?? What if a young impressionable Hindu boy...actually finds a little baby alone and kills it.....why do you guys have every excuse on the boom for these Hindu extremist lunatics who are preaching stuff that can actually be dangerous...

You said that people actually committing the act vs just speaking it....but my dear cuckoo....these acts are supposed to be done against the civilians not the terrorists.....

People who preach to kill and harm others are all as wrong ...it doesn't matter which religion they belong to...

I won't club all the Muslims with those Muslim terrorists...just like I don't want myself too be clubbed with these lunatic extremist Hindus who talk about killing babies...uh uh...no way...

and to those who think that Hindus can't be cruel or can't kill...go listen to the stories of some Dalits...what they have been through....and also try to get statistics of Indian jails and the religion of those who reside there...u will get an idea.....

Again....don't paint a whole community wrong....because I as an Hindu am not a part of those nut jobs who are frothing at their mouths..

^^ His argument is simple: in the context of Kashmir, figuratively speaking, if you are holding a balance/scale/taraju in your hand, and on one pan you have whatever Muslims have done to Hindus, and on the other pan you have whatever Hindus are saying against Muslims, you can't claim that your pans are at equal levels. In fact, even an attempt to weigh these two on the same scale would be inadmissible.

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

You are talking about the Muslim terrorists right?? I hope that you realize that the Muslim terrorists have killed more Muslims and hurt more Muslims than they have people of other religions....I have 0 sympathy for terrorists....when they get killed , this is what they deserve...like Osama deserved to be fish food....but will agree with a Hindu extremists yelling to cut a 6 month old baby in half ?? What is the paap that that little baby do? He wasn't the one who was responsible for the KP killings and exodus?? What is the fault of the young Muslim girls who people are asking Hindu boys to target and marry?

When you say these are people frothing in anger at their mouth....do you think that only young Muslims are capable of being brainwashed into killing others and the young Hindus can't be brainwashed?? What if a young impressionable Hindu boy...actually finds a little baby alone and kills it.....why do you guys have every excuse on the boom for these Hindu extremist lunatics who are preaching stuff that can actually be dangerous...

You said that people actually committing the act vs just speaking it....but my dear cuckoo....these acts are supposed to be done against the civilians not the terrorists.....

People who preach to kill and harm others are all as wrong ...it doesn't matter which religion they belong to...

I won't club all the Muslims with those Muslim terrorists...just like I don't want myself too be clubbed with these lunatic extremist Hindus who talk about killing babies...uh uh...no way...

and to those who think that Hindus can't be cruel or can't kill...go listen to the stories of some Dalits...what they have been through....and also try to get statistics of Indian jails and the religion of those who reside there...u will get an idea.....

Again....don't paint a whole community wrong....because I as an Hindu am not a part of those nut jobs who are frothing at their mouths..

Still, words can never, ever, ever, be compared with actual ACTS.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

^^ His argument is simple: in the context of Kashmir, figuratively speaking, if you are holding a balance/scale/taraju in your hand, and on one pan you have whatever Muslims have done to Hindus, and on the other pan you have whatever Hindus are saying against Muslims, you can't claim that your pans are at equal levels. In fact, even an attempt to weigh these two on the same scale would be inadmissible.

good explanation. I doubt however that she'd be convinced given how cuckoo her reasoning has been😆