Annie’s Rant( ShiVi)

Annie’s Rant

Ok first of all Choubay"s are not the first writers to get trolled, if you don't want to get trolled or get such mean feedbacks, maybe a stop writing shitty stories and shitty episodes and actually give the audience what they want, Then this wouldn't have happened because if you don't listen to the audience and what they love then What's the point of even having a show, Bcz if audience likes something and it's more than 4 or 5 people it's clear who The eye candy is, If you're a writer and you write these type of regressive Content and telecast it as “Family content" then you will obviously get such harsh feed backs, This matter was supposed to be resolved then #KDice posted their insta stories But nahi aap log ko to big boss se bhi jada drama Karna hai, like dude go touch some grass you're not the first writer in the world to get such harsh and negative feedbacks, And if you don't want to get harsh and negative feedback maybe listen to the audience and what they want and actually use the potential that you have. That's it for today's thank you so much for reading to

Annie’s Rant ❤️💕

Hi Annie,

Thank you for articulating was my thoughts so well. I love you for writing this. I seriously don't care about the SS of any actor or what the offscreen drama is going on. All I want from TV is good content.

Especially in a ensemble cast, you have to really be a good writer to carry out the story line of all the characters, then it doesn't matter if the SS is more or less, if the story and writing are nicely and logically done then I don't think there would be much drama and hungama about SS.

But PS writers after the haveli track have lost it completely, they are not able to sustain any track to closure. They are have started showing characters behaving illogically, nonsense storyline and characters forgetting their previous decision and tracks and behaving ridiculously.

I know that the OG proves that ensemble cast has a whole lot of scope for great character development and awesome story line. But PS team has decided they want to toxic, regressive and utterly illogical and dump us with stupid CV content.

Sometimes I feel that the PH is on a self sabotage mode. They want to ruin their own show.

The most I feel sad for the actors, as they are the face of the show, they take the brunt of the criticism and are maligned. Many young viewers cannot understand the reasons why actors do what they do. They are TV actors, they do not have that much pull like film actors.

If the production house does not currently recognise the problem that the story is having then there is no hope for this show. It will be axed and nothing no one will be able to do about it.

Our only hope is on Shivi, since that is the popular couple of this show, but it doesn't not mean that Gaura and Devta are not loved. They are liked and loved my many others but their storylines are not explored properly, their previous maturity is lost, character development is not there and only illogical tracks are served to us with a regressive and toxic intentions.

I beg to the makers to finish one track atleast. Just one track has a whole and complete conclusion and then go to other track. Please 🙏 we love the show, we love all the characters of the show, just stop butchering the show and the characters.

I beg to the makers to not listen to the fans and actually carry on telling the story you set out to. Interference of fans has caused discord and negativity between cast members who were once like a close knit family. It’s sad how these so called fans are ruining the atmosphere and the essence of the show. Pandya Store is about a family’s journey and their interpersonal relationships not about a love story that these people have got into their head.

Originally posted by: ishan2003

I beg to the makers to not listen to the fans and actually carry on telling the story you set out to. Interference of fans has caused discord and negativity between cast members who were once like a close knit family. It’s sad how these so called fans are ruining the atmosphere and the essence of the show. Pandya Store is about a family’s journey and their interpersonal relationships not about a love story that these people have got into their head.

I would like to respectfully disagree with you.

I believe the best writers balance their own thoughts/storylines vs. the audience's criticisms.

I respect and encourage writer creativity. After being a fanfiction reader in multiple other forums, writer creativity is what inspires others. However, I also think it is very important to listen and learn from the audience.

Writer creativity gave us: Shiva and Raavi's childhood and their subsequent love story, a layer of drama between Prafulla and the kangans, and laid the backbone of the budding, yet somewhat impossible (per current track) love story behind Anita and Hardik.

You are absolutely right in that the audience should not expect just a love story between Shiva and Raavi. However, what many people, the writers and actors, are missing is that the fans are disgruntled with the overall storyline and plot.

Dhara used to be a character that was loved by all, until the haveli episode when she beat Shiva and Krish. Many, many fans took to social media to explain that abuse of any way, shape, or form is wrong. At that time, fans didn't want to see a love story between Shiva and Raavi, they wanted to see a "redemption" arc for Dhara.

They wanted to see Dhara go through the guilt of beating her own "children" in a moment of haste. They wanted to see Dhara apologize to Shiva and Krish, and even if Shiva and Krish asked her not to apologize, for Dhara to say, "No, what I did was unacceptable. In that moment, I lost my sense of reason and unfortunately hurt you. Beating someone is not the answer, and I am so, so sorry!"

That is what the viewers want to see. A family story where we can learn lessons instead of a story where Dhara and Gaumbi's actions are always right no matter what happens.

The problem with this show is not that there is not enough content, it's that none of the storylines are properly fleshed out. The initial arc is always jam packed with content, and then the resolution of the arc ends on such a bitter note. I'll give you an example:

Arc 1: The Story Behind the Kangan

This arc was not in the original storyline; however, it added the much needed backstory of why Shiva was not really cordial to Prafulla and her family. The kangan drama was set up in an extraordinary way, and had I been the writer, I would have explored this story much, much differently. Instead of having Shiva buy Prafulla a new set of kangans to get back his mother's kangans (that too, by putting his share of property on the line), I would had the storyline be:

Shiva and Raavi slowly start to fall in love with each, but the one barrier between them finally opening their hearts to each other is the kangan. Initially, Raavi had no hope for the marriage, but after seeing Shiva's softer side, she realized that she would find out the backstory behind the kangans. After finding out what happened, she's lost on who to support. The woman who raised her with love just like a mother, or the man she would spend the rest of her life with. Prafulla and Shiva both see this, but they still can't budge from their long-standing rivalry. Eventually, Prafulla and Shiva see Raavi crying, and that's when both of them melt. Prafulla decides to give Raavi the kangans as a birthday present, telling her that she can do whatever she wants with the kangans (as her pride refuses her to return the kangans to Suman). At the same time, Shiva gives Prafulla kangans, ending their rivalry while telling Prafulla that they are family and they should always stand by one another. The drama finally comes to an end with Raavi offering the kangans to Shiva and Shiva telling Raavi that she can do whatever she wants with the kangans as she is the daughter of the Pandya house.

What the writers should have explored with the arc above:

--Shiva and Prafulla's pride and ego

--The tension between Shiva and Raavi, and how everything would have been "perfect" if it weren't for the kangans

--Shiva realizing that loving Raavi means loving Prafulla, and Prafulla realizing that no man in Somnath could give Raavi the happiness she deserves other than Shiva

Arc 2: Rishita as a Bahu to the Pandya House

Definitely unlike many others, I enjoyed seeing Rishita as the resident mean girl of the Pandya house. She was everything the Pandya family was not, and had she stayed like that, she would have taught the Pandya family on how to stand up and fight.

The writers still explore how Rishita is a "misfit" to the family, but it has definitely watered down. In a way, her original spunk was beaten down. Honestly what should have happened is the writers should have explored how being a career-oriented woman is not wrong. How times are changing, and not every girl wants to be a part of a combined family. How it's alright to delay pregnancy, and how it's fine for a girl to stand up to her parents.

What the writers should have explored is Rishita's jealousy of Raavi, and eventually after being charmed by Raavi's sweetness, her slow turn around of supporting Raavi and Shiva being together to atone for her ruining Raavi's marriage. Out of all the people, I've always felt Rishita was the only one who could connect with Shiva on a spiritual level. They both are impulsive people who are not afraid of standing up to those they love. Instead of beating down the "bhabi" worship, Shiva should have continued calling Rishita by her name, telling her that she's only worthy of being a "bhabi" to him once he regarded her as a family member.

Yes, I know saving them at the temple was big, but somewhere I wished for more. The writers could've have given us fun moments between Shiva and Krish pranking Rishita, and eventually, Rishita ganging up with Raavi and Dhara to prank the boys again. That could have been the defining moment for Rishita to realize that the Pandya family were nice.

The human psyche is very, very complex. They don't need to come up with the baby drama, the evil plots, or unnecessary TRP stunts, they just need to think about all the emotions/layers a character could have.

Even if the audience doesn't like a character or storyline, the writers have to know how to justify the arc in a way where the audience accepts it. Quite honestly, I think they've done a poor job with that. They never justify their storylines, and instead, finish it off in 2 seconds before starting the next drama, and I think that is where most of the fans are exhausted. They don't expect the family storyline anymore because no one seems to have redemption, realization, or growth in character after all these plots. That's why they just want to see the romance angle between Shiva and Raavi, because in the fans' mind, Alice Kaushik and Kanwar Dhillon, no matter how shoddy the story is, deliver with what they get.

Originally posted by: ishan2003

wow looks like you have a lot of time to think about all these things…very creative I must say. But seriously the channel & the audience need to stop telling writers/directors how to present a story. You might like something, you might not some other things…doesn’t mean it’s bad material. Behave like a viewer and if you don’t like something switch off the television

Thanks a lot for letting us know that showing and 'justifying' abuse, domestic Violence, physical mental and emotional harrasment, insulting religious sentiments, fraud, cheating, calling horrible names to dils, disrespecting the wives (let me tell u it is just not about Raavi), showing no self respect wali female leads, justifying the horrible acts of mil, killing the babies mercilessly, taking anybody's child as their own are 'good' material bcoz we were thinking these are 'bad' material anyway.

Well we didn't knew that it is us who make and break a show, that is why when makers aren't trying to hear the Audience that's why aren't able to to even touch 2 TRP from around 2 Months even when 7 PM show has crossed 3 soo many times and have always more TRP than what 7:30 show gets and the when makers actually listen then they top the charts and have no competition.

Well they make the show for us, it is us who pay to watch, it is us who make them stand where they are so we have all the right to question.

Ever saw how makers were praised in last week of December bcoz they showed good stuffs or u ignored it ?

Bcoz whatever nonsense they are showing now can't be justified and shouldn't be bcoz not even a single character in this show is acting sane and makes sense but instead of improving storyline and characters they are more interested in showing the worst things.

So they need to be questioned and bcoz we love the Actors so can't leave the show even if we want.

Also let me tell u Viewers job is to question the makers when they show wrong and tell what u want and not turn blind eye to wrong stuffs and teach others.

Nothing against u but now it is too much.

You have problem with everything if u really like what makers are showing why don't you make a topic and hype and justify that they are correct rather than questioning those who have been with the show from starting and loved everyone but makers made us to unlike those characters.

Peace

Originally posted by: milkcakejamun

I would like to respectfully disagree with you.

I believe the best writers balance their own thoughts/storylines vs. the audience's criticisms.

I respect and encourage writer creativity. After being a fanfiction reader in multiple other forums, writer creativity is what inspires others. However, I also think it is very important to listen and learn from the audience.

Writer creativity gave us: Shiva and Raavi's childhood and their subsequent love story, a layer of drama between Prafulla and the kangans, and laid the backbone of the budding, yet somewhat impossible (per current track) love story behind Anita and Hardik.

You are absolutely right in that the audience should not expect just a love story between Shiva and Raavi. However, what many people, the writers and actors, are missing is that the fans are disgruntled with the overall storyline and plot.

Dhara used to be a character that was loved by all, until the haveli episode when she beat Shiva and Krish. Many, many fans took to social media to explain that abuse of any way, shape, or form is wrong. At that time, fans didn't want to see a love story between Shiva and Raavi, they wanted to see a "redemption" arc for Dhara.

They wanted to see Dhara go through the guilt of beating her own "children" in a moment of haste. They wanted to see Dhara apologize to Shiva and Krish, and even if Shiva and Krish asked her not to apologize, for Dhara to say, "No, what I did was unacceptable. In that moment, I lost my sense of reason and unfortunately hurt you. Beating someone is not the answer, and I am so, so sorry!"

That is what the viewers want to see. A family story where we can learn lessons instead of a story where Dhara and Gaumbi's actions are always right no matter what happens.

The problem with this show is not that there is not enough content, it's that none of the storylines are properly fleshed out. The initial arc is always jam packed with content, and then the resolution of the arc ends on such a bitter note. I'll give you an example:

Arc 1: The Story Behind the Kangan

This arc was not in the original storyline; however, it added the much needed backstory of why Shiva was not really cordial to Prafulla and her family. The kangan drama was set up in an extraordinary way, and had I been the writer, I would have explored this story much, much differently. Instead of having Shiva buy Prafulla a new set of kangans to get back his mother's kangans (that too, by putting his share of property on the line), I would had the storyline be:

Shiva and Raavi slowly start to fall in love with each, but the one barrier between them finally opening their hearts to each other is the kangan. Initially, Raavi had no hope for the marriage, but after seeing Shiva's softer side, she realized that she would find out the backstory behind the kangans. After finding out what happened, she's lost on who to support. The woman who raised her with love just like a mother, or the man she would spend the rest of her life with. Prafulla and Shiva both see this, but they still can't budge from their long-standing rivalry. Eventually, Prafulla and Shiva see Raavi crying, and that's when both of them melt. Prafulla decides to give Raavi the kangans as a birthday present, telling her that she can do whatever she wants with the kangans (as her pride refuses her to return the kangans to Suman). At the same time, Shiva gives Prafulla kangans, ending their rivalry while telling Prafulla that they are family and they should always stand by one another. The drama finally comes to an end with Raavi offering the kangans to Shiva and Shiva telling Raavi that she can do whatever she wants with the kangans as she is the daughter of the Pandya house.

What the writers should have explored with the arc above:

--Shiva and Prafulla's pride and ego

--The tension between Shiva and Raavi, and how everything would have been "perfect" if it weren't for the kangans

--Shiva realizing that loving Raavi means loving Prafulla, and Prafulla realizing that no man in Somnath could give Raavi the happiness she deserves other than Shiva

Arc 2: Rishita as a Bahu to the Pandya House

Definitely unlike many others, I enjoyed seeing Rishita as the resident mean girl of the Pandya house. She was everything the Pandya family was not, and had she stayed like that, she would have taught the Pandya family on how to stand up and fight.

The writers still explore how Rishita is a "misfit" to the family, but it has definitely watered down. In a way, her original spunk was beaten down. Honestly what should have happened is the writers should have explored how being a career-oriented woman is not wrong. How times are changing, and not every girl wants to be a part of a combined family. How it's alright to delay pregnancy, and how it's fine for a girl to stand up to her parents.

What the writers should have explored is Rishita's jealousy of Raavi, and eventually after being charmed by Raavi's sweetness, her slow turn around of supporting Raavi and Shiva being together to atone for her ruining Raavi's marriage. Out of all the people, I've always felt Rishita was the only one who could connect with Shiva on a spiritual level. They both are impulsive people who are not afraid of standing up to those they love. Instead of beating down the "bhabi" worship, Shiva should have continued calling Rishita by her name, telling her that she's only worthy of being a "bhabi" to him once he regarded her as a family member.

Yes, I know saving them at the temple was big, but somewhere I wished for more. The writers could've have given us fun moments between Shiva and Krish pranking Rishita, and eventually, Rishita ganging up with Raavi and Dhara to prank the boys again. That could have been the defining moment for Rishita to realize that the Pandya family were nice.

The human psyche is very, very complex. They don't need to come up with the baby drama, the evil plots, or unnecessary TRP stunts, they just need to think about all the emotions/layers a character could have.

Even if the audience doesn't like a character or storyline, the writers have to know how to justify the arc in a way where the audience accepts it. Quite honestly, I think they've done a poor job with that. They never justify their storylines, and instead, finish it off in 2 seconds before starting the next drama, and I think that is where most of the fans are exhausted. They don't expect the family storyline anymore because no one seems to have redemption, realization, or growth in character after all these plots. That's why they just want to see the romance angle between Shiva and Raavi, because in the fans' mind, Alice Kaushik and Kanwar Dhillon, no matter how shoddy the story is, deliver with what they get.

Originally posted by: ishan2003

wow looks like you have a lot of time to think about all these things…very creative I must say. But seriously the channel & the audience need to stop telling writers/directors how to present a story. You might like something, you might not some other things…doesn’t mean it’s bad material. Behave like a viewer and if you don’t like something switch off the television

You do realise that someone took the time and effort to try to explain the other side to you, and you basically called them jobless, right? Which she isn't.

Peace. Just making a point here.

Originally posted by: ishan2003

wow looks like you have a lot of time to think about all these things…very creative I must say. But seriously the channel & the audience need to stop telling writers/directors how to present a story. You might like something, you might not some other things…doesn’t mean it’s bad material. Behave like a viewer and if you don’t like something switch off the television

Originally posted by: Palak2812

Thanks a lot for letting us know that showing and 'justifying' abuse, domestic Violence, physical mental and emotional harrasment, insulting religious sentiments, fraud, cheating, calling horrible names to dils, disrespecting the wives (let me tell u it is just not about Raavi), showing no self respect wali female leads, justifying the horrible acts of mil, killing the babies mercilessly, taking anybody's child as their own are 'good' material bcoz we were thinking these are 'bad' material anyway.

Well we didn't knew that it is us who make and break a show, that is why when makers aren't trying to hear the Audience that's why aren't able to to even touch 2 TRP from around 2 Months even when 7 PM show has crossed 3 soo many times and have always more TRP than what 7:30 show gets and the when makers actually listen then they top the charts and have no competition.

Well they make the show for us, it is us who pay to watch, it is us who make them stand where they are so we have all the right to question.

Ever saw how makers were praised in last week of December bcoz they showed good stuffs or u ignored it ?

Bcoz whatever nonsense they are showing now can't be justified and shouldn't be bcoz not even a single character in this show is acting sane and makes sense but instead of improving storyline and characters they are more interested in showing the worst things.

So they need to be questioned and bcoz we love the Actors so can't leave the show even if we want.

Also let me tell u Viewers job is to question the makers when they show wrong and tell what u want and not turn blind eye to wrong stuffs and teach others.

Nothing against u but now it is too much.

You have problem with everything if u really like what makers are showing why don't you make a topic and hype and justify that they are correct rather than questioning those who have been with the show from starting and loved everyone but makers made us to unlike those characters.

Peace

Are you all for real? It’s a show it’s not happening in real…this is a small town where the mentality is such that there is pressure on people to have kids etc. women are not allowed to work but they still show that. The whole idea of every character having their quirkiness makes it a good show. Why does everything have to be a bed of roses all the time? The current track is produced to make up for the absence of so many characters. In the earlier days as an audience we never demanded what to show us. We used to request etc. but no one ever heard us as there was no social media and now just because you have access to that you think you can demand makers change their content according to your whims and fancies. What do you do about web series then? Sometimes they are 20-25 episodes you can’t get them to change it can you?