Bigg Boss 15: Daily Discussion Thread 20th Dec 2021 - Page 35

So atleast Teja is now thinking about how she doesn't have any problem if Karan wins but the guy is kinda striving hard to ensure Teja doesn't win, heck he prefers even Rashmi and Bichukle winning. No wonder he had explicitly said before that he sees Umar in finale with himself (and ofcourse later he sugarcoated his answer as well, how timid lol😆)

She should have more clarity now and shouldn't stop strategizing people only coz that timid guy doesn't like it, in the a veil of "possessiveness",what a loser lol!

Originally posted by: KJasoosChulbulP

I am shocked at this one sided opinion by you for KK vs Teja.. both have been bad for the other when rest are involved…. Tejran never worked.. romantically or game wise….. tbh…. I dont think Teja has played vs KK in game in tasks tho… I ofc have not seen many many episodes so perhaps I missed it… but KK has and its fine but sorta does make him the bad guy if he is intentionally playing against her on multiple occasions esp if its not even 1 vs 1 as it seems he is trying to get her out of task before talking others out…… and personally I disconnected with KK ka MCP/misogynistic throwing the cup / saying how dare u speak to me like this with a lot of ego/anger and mcp bakwaas etc waala scene when he trashed her in front of others and also behind her back bitching about her whole day just cuz Sallu went after him … and sadly she stood by this fool even when he was wrong like patkoing Pratik for example…

Why would you be shocked - it’s hardly a scandalous opinion. Though certainly a minority one on here - most are pro Teja without an ounce of “fairness” to Karan. It is ok, once in a blue moon, for someone to prefer Karan over Teja LOL. And nowhere have I claimed that Karan has never been wrong. The man is as flawed as the next person.

@bold - where has Teja been bad vis a vis Karan then according to you? Because I don’t believe I’ve read an opinion from you where you’ve opined on how bad Teja has been in this context. Though I may have missed it - I’m hardly here these days.

I don’t toss around labels like MCPs etc on a whim - and in fact find it as sad and convenient that they’re tossed around thus as I did when Teja was s**t shamed for chipkoing to Karan. Regardless - that’s simply my view and I’ve stated it previously - and I have no issue with your opposite one.

As I’ve said multiple times, I’ve always found Teja to be a walking talking drama company - constantly playing to the galleries. She doesn’t decide her stands and convictions based on right or wrong or personal values - but rather based on how much potential there is for “looking good” to the audience. I also find her highly sanctimonious and conniving - traits common in the mahaan devis of the last few seasons - and they do not enamor me. And as of her “Salman said I was right weekend” - she’s been utterly unbearable in her fakery and constant sympathy mode.

I get that you disagree - but to each their own.

Originally posted by: KJasoosChulbulP

Agreed… as I said in another post, I disconnected totally with KK after he showed his MCP/misogynistic/ego when he threw the cup and spoke the way he did with Teja after wkv sallu ka bashing as if it was her fault and resorted to bitching about her in the name of image cleansing…. Mere heesab se uskaa ego bahoot hurt hota hain to think she might be better than him….. even for a moment…

This!
The thing is, repeatedly saying she is immature while she is quite good at cracking others’ gameplay, doing tasks and at times even strategising is just to downplay her game. Others keep saying too that Teja ne kiya hi kya hai in the show, dusro ke kandhe pe yahan tak pohchi, but dare they ask same kinda questions to Shamita or even WCs, why, because Teja hai kuch bhi bole chalega. They all try their best to prove her a freeloader and undeserving, if only they had seen her game from outside or accepted her presence and game fairly keeping the dislike or bias aside.
He very smartly broke her up with Nishant while he has only worked to make his sour relationship with Nishant better in the past few days, now Nish Teja equation is completely ruined, not that it was great anyway or Nishant was her bestie or something but now it’s even worse that Nishant will even support a Bichkule over Teja. Nishant asked on WKW that I don’t know why Teja broke this friendship and what went wrong. Nishant has it in him to convince Pratik to support the same person he is supporting so that way Teja lost on N& P both.

I gave him a benefit of doubt after that cup throwing incident but as the finale reaches closer, he is only proving what others always doubted that this whole loge angle was for the show.

What if situations were reversed and Teja was asking her alliances (which actually don’t exist) to remove KK first, or bitching KK with maybe a Rakhi or Pratik or Devo or throwing something at him, or asking KK to go say sorry to Devo for something that’s between them or listening to her friends character assassinating her boyfriend 😆

I just hope she doesn’t win this TTF to save herself from taunts and cornering by almost entire house including her boyfriend, if she deserves to be there she will be there anyway, but funny that these HMs are fine with someone like Rakhi having a TTF but can’t stand Teja winning it.

Originally posted by: SP2684

Why would you be shocked - it’s hardly a scandalous opinion. Though certainly a minority one on here - most are pro Teja without an ounce of “fairness” to Karan. It is ok, once in a blue moon, for someone to prefer Karan over Teja LOL. And nowhere have I claimed that Karan has never been wrong. The man is as flawed as the next person.

@bold - where has Teja been bad vis a vis Karan then according to you? Because I don’t believe I’ve read an opinion from you where you’ve opined on how bad Teja has been in this context. Though I may have missed it - I’m hardly here these days.

I don’t toss around labels like MCPs etc on a whim - and in fact find it as sad and convenient that they’re tossed around thus as I did when Teja was s**t shamed for chipkoing to Karan. Regardless - that’s simply my view and I’ve stated it previously - and I have no issue with your opposite one.

As I’ve said multiple times, I’ve always found Teja to be a walking talking drama company - constantly playing to the galleries. She doesn’t decide her stands and convictions based on right or wrong or personal values - but rather based on how much potential there is for “looking good” to the audience. I also find her highly sanctimonious and conniving - traits common in the mahaan devis of the last few seasons - and they do not enamor me. And as of her “Salman said I was right weekend” - she’s been utterly unbearable in her fakery and constant sympathy mode.

I get that you disagree - but to each their own.

And teja has plenty of flaws…. From her silly over reactions, giggling, playing dumb with Shamita early days despite being jhadoed by her etc.. I have always pointed it out and frankly she hasn’t shown strength to stand tall many times except last wkv on another sensitive issue….

Aur shock is liye thaa since it was your view….. mein thodee na sab ke opposite view ko shocked boltaa hoon… Aur KK ne bahoot zyaada discomfort naheen dekhayee hotee over teja ka relationships every step of way.. why u let Vishal train u vs me etc…. Or accused her of making plans when she didn’t but he does every time… I would be fine… .cuz he has every right to play his game… but as viewer I will definitely be surprised if same person is accusing his so called gf when she doesnt and I think in his mind it gives him license to do so …. Or perhaps that’s just him gaming by gaming her as well….

He has a history of cutting his own people so not surprising that Teja is currently at top of the list on this task as well…

Chances are we might argue for a week and they will have made up by end of day… so gonna end this agree to disagree on this subject here :) ….

Originally posted by: SP2684

I’m surprised tum ab bhi matha phodti ho iss baat pe 😆. Samjha kar - KK game khelne nahi aaya - Teja deviji ki aarti utaarne aaya hain. Ultimately, they’re opponents in this game and certainly in this task - but how dare he play for himself. And if that doesn’t work - then how dare he play against her first, and not last - there’s no winning when there’s a mahaan devi involved 😆

And the mahaan devi’s constant shit is ignored - you’ll have noted that no one bothered to counter your very valid point as to Teja’s unparalleled “happiness and security” at Rashmi choosing KK, and him not calling Teja out on her bullshit there 😳

He screwed up his game the minute he decided he had feelings for this chick. Because there’s no winning then - if he doesn’t play, toh love lapata kiya sirf - and if he does - toh betrayer, spineless, coward, falan dhimkaan. Chit bhi devi ji ki and pat bhi 😆

I’m toh just astonished at how little the mahaanta murtis have to do these days to come across as oh so deserving of sympathy LMAO. This one’s a walking drama company - constant nautanki - every move calculated depending on how it’ll play out to the audience - and yet her fake AF self is apparently “genuine” 😆

Haha yeah.. sar phodna has gone down considerably because I know there's no point.. but I just can't resist at times when I see fans "pick and choose" (from Sham's dinctionary) to suit their narrative. For two straight days, the girl questioned Rashmi in 10 different ways as to why she chose to judge Karan Pratik's debate round and not hers. I wish that time Karan not Rashmi, had questioned her if she was that unhappy about him winning. But he doesn't know how to twist these moments to make his partner look negative or "toxic" ..all he has to do is look sad if not cry to show how hurt he is, isolate himself from the whole house and pick a few people who already have an agenda against her to feed the idea that she is not happy with him winning. But he instead tried to patch things up between her and Rashmi and there too ended up getting judged at shouting back at her because when she is hyper he should just let her yell at him and not try to calm her down.. let her say things that she has alrready said a thousand times otherwise its an attempt to gag her or something..

All that is fine, but its funny that the guy is getting judged for even playing the game how its supposed to be played. I don't know what people mean when they say TejRan is ok, but game wise now they should play solo. The arguement is that "khelo but Teja ke against nahi" errrmmm why? Is she not a contestant on the show..is she not his competition? Are they jointly competing for the trophy? Apparently she never says a word or never plays against him. Maybe so far she hasnt made a move as openly as him in the task and neither has he..but with 3 weeks left for finale, is it still expected that they will not play for themselves?Only diff is he made an open move.. When she sits quietly with a wry smile on her face the entire time her partner gets bashed left, right and center by the host for being a toxic bf to her, to me that is also equal to if not more of a move against him. That to me is the strategy that worked for her to position herself strongly compared to him and she has been strategically using that victim card at every given opportunity eversince that day. Point is these two are each other's biggest competion and it should be ok to no longer pretend to think or act otherwise.

Originally posted by: -EvilDesires-

This!
The thing is, repeatedly saying she is immature while she is quite good at cracking others’ gameplay, doing tasks and at times even strategising is just to downplay her game. Others keep saying too that Teja ne kiya hi kya hai in the show, dusro ke kandhe pe yahan tak pohchi, but dare they ask same kinda questions to Shamita or even WCs, why, because Teja hai kuch bhi bole chalega. They all try their best to prove her a freeloader and undeserving, if only they had seen her game from outside or accepted her presence and game fairly keeping the dislike or bias aside.
He very smartly broke her up with Nishant while he has only worked to make his sour relationship with Nishant better in the past few days, now Nish Teja equation is completely ruined, not that it was great anyway or Nishant was her bestie or something but now it’s even worse that Nishant will even support a Bichkule over Teja. Nishant asked on WKW that I don’t know why Teja broke this friendship and what went wrong. Nishant has it in him to convince Pratik to support the same person he is supporting so that way Teja lost on N& P both.

I gave him a benefit of doubt after that cup throwing incident but as the finale reaches closer, he is only proving what others always doubted that this whole loge angle was for the show.

What if situations were reversed and Teja was asking her alliances (which actually don’t exist) to remove KK first, or bitching KK with maybe a Rakhi or Pratik or Devo or throwing something at him, or asking KK to go say sorry to Devo for something that’s between them or listening to her friends character assassinating her boyfriend 😆

I just hope she doesn’t win this TTF to save herself from taunts and cornering by almost entire house including her boyfriend, if she deserves to be there she will be there anyway, but funny that these HMs are fine with someone like Rakhi having a TTF but can’t stand Teja winning it.

Frankly, I have strong opinions on this subject.. but KK in my books is misogynist /MCP as he has constantly tried to control Teja ka equations even in terms of who she speaks to.. forget tasks… and when u see enough to it followed by throwing cups.. its another Arman Kohli according to me….

Originally posted by: KJasoosChulbulP

I dont toss around MCP on a whim either :) … I have seen enough of KK over multiple times on how he talks and that throwing a mug etc… was not my whim… but his behavior…for me is definitely in that category…

And teja has plenty of flaws…. From her silly over reactions, giggling, playing dumb with Shamita early days despite being jhadoed by her etc.. I have always pointed it out and frankly she hasn’t shown strength to stand tall many times except last wkv on another sensitive issue….

Aur shock is liye thaa since it was your view….. mein thodee na sab ke opposite view ko shocked boltaa hoon… Aur KK ne bahoot zyaada discomfort naheen dekhayee hotee over teja ka relationships every step of way.. why u let Vishal train u vs me etc…. Or accused her of making plans when she didn’t but he does every time… I would be fine… .cuz he has every right to play his game… but as viewer I will definitely be surprised if same person is accusing his so called gf when she doesnt and I think in his mind it gives him license to do so …. Or perhaps that’s just him gaming by gaming her as well….

He has a history of cutting his own people so not surprising that Teja is currently at top of the list on this task as well…

Chances are we might argue for a week and they will have made up by end of day… so gonna end this agree to disagree on this subject here :) ….

Oh I have no intention of arguing - and always happy to agree to disagree :-)

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Haha yeah.. sar phodna has gone down considerably because I know there's no point.. but I just can't resist at times when I see fans "pick and choose" (from Sham's dinctionary) to suit their narrative. For two straight days, the girl questioned Rashmi in 10 different ways as to why she chose to judge Karan Pratik's debate round and not hers. I wish that time Karan not Rashmi, had questioned her if she was that unhappy about him winning. But he doesn't know how to twist these moments to make his partner look negative or "toxic" ..all he has to do is look sad if not cry to show how hurt he is, isolate himself from the whole house and pick a few people who already have an agenda against her to feed the idea that she is not happy with him winning. But he instead tried to patch things up between her and Rashmi and there too ended up getting judged at shouting back at her because when she is hyper he should just let her yell at him and not try to calm her down.. let her say things that she has alrready said a thousand times otherwise its an attempt to gag her or something..

All that is fine, but its funny that the guy is getting judged for even playing the game how its supposed to be played. I don't know what people mean when they say TejRan is ok, but game wise now they should play solo. The arguement is that "khelo but Teja ke against nahi" errrmmm why? Is she not a contestant on the show..is she not his competition? Are they jointly competing for the trophy? Apparently she never says a word or never plays against him. Maybe so far she hasnt made a move as openly as him in the task and neither has he..but with 3 weeks left for finale, is it still expected that they will not play for themselves?Only diff is he made an open move.. When she sits quietly with a wry smile on her face the entire time her partner gets bashed left, right and center by the host for being a toxic bf to her, to me that is also equal to if not more of a move against him. That to me is the strategy that worked for her to position herself strongly compared to him and she has been strategically using that victim card at every given opportunity eversince that day. Point is these two are each other's biggest competion and it should be ok to no longer pretend to think or act otherwise.

@bold - a talent that his GF has in great measure 😆

And I couldn’t agree more with everything else you’ve said. Karan openly khelta hain - and Teja plays dirty. In fact, Teja is more of a gamer than Karan. Woh toh ab jaake uske against ek task mein khela hain - I.e., what he’s there for - you know, that little thing called the game? But as I’ve said for weeks now - she’s been playing him on a personal level. Showing the world ke bechari kaise toxic a-hole ke saath phas gayi hain LMAO. Defending him on a chokeslam but quietly letting him be called toxic and someone who’ll make her miserable in life? And then the whole “yahaan there’s people to fight for my justice (wtf?!) on the weekend, but bahar kaun karega 😭“?! Lol - sab kal paida hue the na - and itne seasons dekhke bhi hummein pata nahi how that shit is designed create a narrative.

Karan Patel deserves the trophy having not even been in the season - bech aayegi aur pata bhi nahi chalega, he said - and woh sach mein Karan ko bech aayi and uss gadhe ko pata bhi nahi chala. He should’ve known by now, that bechari wala sympathy drama sells over all else. Game matters for shit in this iteration of BB.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Haha yeah.. sar phodna has gone down considerably because I know there's no point.. but I just can't resist at times when I see fans "pick and choose" (from Sham's dinctionary) to suit their narrative. For two straight days, the girl questioned Rashmi in 10 different ways as to why she chose to judge Karan Pratik's debate round and not hers. I wish that time Karan not Rashmi, had questioned her if she was that unhappy about him winning. But he doesn't know how to twist these moments to make his partner look negative or "toxic" ..all he has to do is look sad if not cry to show how hurt he is, isolate himself from the whole house and pick a few people who already have an agenda against her to feed the idea that she is not happy with him winning. But he instead tried to patch things up between her and Rashmi and there too ended up getting judged at shouting back at her because when she is hyper he should just let her yell at him and not try to calm her down.. let her say things that she has alrready said a thousand times otherwise its an attempt to gag her or something..

All that is fine, but its funny that the guy is getting judged for even playing the game how its supposed to be played. I don't know what people mean when they say TejRan is ok, but game wise now they should play solo. The arguement is that "khelo but Teja ke against nahi" errrmmm why? Is she not a contestant on the show..is she not his competition? Are they jointly competing for the trophy? Apparently she never says a word or never plays against him. Maybe so far she hasnt made a move as openly as him in the task and neither has he..but with 3 weeks left for finale, is it still expected that they will not play for themselves?Only diff is he made an open move.. When she sits quietly with a wry smile on her face the entire time her partner gets bashed left, right and center by the host for being a toxic bf to her, to me that is also equal to if not more of a move against him. That to me is the strategy that worked for her to position herself strongly compared to him and she has been strategically using that victim card at every given opportunity eversince that day. Point is these two are each other's biggest competion and it should be ok to no longer pretend to think or act otherwise.

+10000 to everything u've written here. The hypocrisy is mind numbing. So KK ka role in this show is just to be a supportive BF and be a mute spectator to everything. And suppose he starts playing for himself and treats Teja as a competition, which she rightly is, and starts questioning her tab toh he has to be categorised as a Toxic BF who is using her and what not. But yeah, Teja is allowed to play for herself by aligning with Devo and Rakhi in the game because hey, she's a strong contestant who doesn't require any one's support to survive in the show😆

Originally posted by: SP2684

@bold - a talent that his GF has in great measure 😆

And I couldn’t agree more with everything else you’ve said. Karan openly khelta hain - and Teja plays dirty. In fact, Teja is more of a gamer than Karan. Woh toh ab jaake uske against ek task mein khela hain - I.e., what he’s there for - you know, that little thing called the game? But as I’ve said for weeks now - she’s been playing him on a personal level. Showing the world ke bechari kaise toxic a-hole ke saath phas gayi hain LMAO. Defending him on a chokeslam but quietly letting him be called toxic and someone who’ll make her miserable in life? And then the whole “yahaan there’s people to fight for my justice (wtf?!) on the weekend, but bahar kaun karega 😭“?! Lol - sab kal paida hue the na - and itne seasons dekhke bhi hummein pata nahi how that shit is designed create a narrative.

Karan Patel deserves the trophy having not even been in the season - bech aayegi aur pata bhi nahi chalega, he said - and woh sach mein Karan ko bech aayi and uss gadhe ko pata bhi nahi chala. He should’ve known by now, that bechari wala sympathy drama sells over all else. Game matters for shit in this iteration of BB.

Agree.. People either dont realize or pretend to not realize that ye sab perception ka khel hai to get audience's sympathy which translates into votes. Audiences are not gonna vote based on who won the task. And Teja is way ahead of Karan in that skill of perception building in audience's minds so yeah a more skilled gamer in that sense. Everyone knows that no matter what the end result of these stupid tasks are, Karan and Teja are two sure shot names for the finale. What will matter is how audiences perceive them as individuals so in that sense Umar also did well in going out of the way to help Karan. Getting eliminated from the race was not in his hands but being a good sport and loyal friend was in his hands and he did well in that department. Audiences will register that. Same goes for Teja. She couldnt do much in the second round of the task where it was about alliances because for some reason not many in the house trust her or wanna support her so she did what was in her hands. LF clips of her solo shots sitting alone, eating alone, crying in the bg will paint the perfect picture of the victim who got played by her bf in the game.. I wont be surprised if a promo gets made on the same shots just like her dive in the pool at 4am in the morning made for a great WKV promo.