Bigg Boss 15: Daily Discussion Thread - 9th Dec, 2021 - Page 35

Originally posted by: livepraylaugh

Karan even forget his own GF for Umar, Karan too deserves it as he too supports Umar blindly. I too saw the video. He agrees with Rajiv that Karan and Teja are nothing with without their eo. I don’t think Friends do talk about their own friends like this!

Have you watched the clip where simba said to kk that umar looks like your follower not as bro and kk ny uski haan main haam milayi thi similarly today Umar ny wesy hi Rajiv ki haan main haan milayi. But jitna meine dekha hai for umar kk is his first priority. Even in today's LF when rajiv asked to choose one of them he took kk's name.

Originally posted by: _NINA_

She does not trust Anyone except KK. And btw umar has not backstabbed her or broke her trust. Umtej are friends because of kk and teja also knows that

Its not about priority about the game. Its about bitching about a person and fighting without any reason as Vishal priority is no one!

Originally posted by: .Rinnie.

Umar already knows and accepted that fact phir itna khunaas kyun hai? I have seen Umar talk about how he knows KK's priority is Teja to Vishal and the way is talking right now to Rajiv, there is a lot of difference in the tone and intent.

Why does he feel the need to sit so late in the night and agree to whatever nonsense Rajiv is spouting?

Rajiv kisi ka saga nahi hai, Umar has already experienced Rajiv going against him and bitching about him then why is he even entertaining someone like him when he is talking bad about KK repeatedly.

Dekho, all in all, for me - Umar is not looking good at all in this entire sequence of events. He looks so easy to manipulate and bhadkao each time. He just sat and bitched about Teja, KK and Rashmi 🤔

All of them are his allies right now in the game.

Teja ke baare me jo bhi bole wo, I don't care but he should be careful about he listens or speaks about KK because KK wo ek gaddha wala incident ke baad kisi ke bhi mooh se Umar ke against baatien nahi sunta.

I have not seen it atleast on LF. He shuts down anyone including Teja when they say anything about Umar.

Kk did not say anything against umar after that PC i agreed and after that PC i started liking this bond. But few days ago teja said to kk twice that umar does not care about anyone (not kk) in this game and kk did listen that quietly and agreed with her.

Yeah Umar should not trust rajiv but if we understand his context then we can get his point. He clearly said bb will not eliminate their favorites and he knows he is not bb favorite. So he wants to save his person who can help him in future as in future tejran will prioritize each other not umar so umar needs someone who will support him

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Yaar😆 I mean I fail to understand what people try to prove here.. what did he say that is not expected or that is morally wrong? He said

1) Teja is not his priority and that he hangs out with her because of KK

Is that wrong? No.. he has said that multiple times. Its very much possible that people dont feel a certain way for X,Y,Z person even if they havent done any apparent harm to him/her. Its just a matter of not being on the same wavelength. I see so many of DDT members not liking Teja.. I donot hate her but Im not a fan either..kinda neutral towards her. If we were in the house maybe we would've also kept a distance from her..

2.) KK is strong (vote bank wise and popularity wise)..he said he doesnt need me (in the game) so if in game I have to choose him..I would not because he is capable of saving himself..

To me, here he is only trying to bring Rajiv on his side by trying to tell him that he will pick him over Karan because Karan is a strong player. He has been selling the same thing to Rashmi too😆 TejRan have each other..I dont have anybody.

That is his way of garnering as much support as he can. His loyalty to Karan and vice versa is so strong that most people will, as they should think twice to support them because they know they support each other. How else is a person supposed to convince others for alliance? Yehi bologe na? Ki yaar one is not my priority and the other one is strong enough to sustain himself in the show..😆

Umar is a competitive guy.. more than KK. I like that about him.. Dont go by what he (or KK) say to others. In the task, in the house they always are for each other. Aaj dekha ? Umar picked KK's bag and KK picked Umar's bag and they stood next to each other to save their bags.. Teja somehow is always the last one to pick bag so they had to exchange.

You summed it up so well

Saved my time and energy of typing this.

UmRan is long last bond woh nhi tootey ga. Umar is very smart. Jo banda bb ki strategy aur tactics samjh giya woh rajiv ki baaton main nhi aye ga. Bilky woh rajiv ko baaton main laa raha tha.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Forgot to add to my response that it is very important for these people (Karan,Umar and Teja) to get Rajiv on their side. Shamita is sneaky and unreliable. She will always go with her OTT group like she did.. the house is now divided between the OTTians, Devo, Rakhi, Riteish on one side and UmTejRan and Rashmi on the other side. Bacha Rajiv. They must try to get him on their side and for that he needs to feel secure and be shown that he has some benefit in joining them.. If Umar doesnt assure him of that security why would he join them. Umar has been investing a lot on Rajiv from a long time now. Like Nishant had invested on Jay. But Rajiv is smarter than Jay so they need to be extra careful. Plus now he has immunity. Bichkule is the one who is an idiot.. he can be easily manipulated. They should try and get him on their side too.. his problem is look talk which becomes indefensible.

In LF it's obvious Umar is try to get Bichukle on their side as well.

Originally posted by: .Rinnie.

I understand what your saying but believe me, in the LF, whatever I have been watching - Umar is not getting Rajiv anywhere... if anything, Rajiv is slowly pulling him away from KK. He is creating a lot of issues in their little unity. These words by Rajiv does affect Umar, it comes out during arguments or other discussions between them in LF. It is very clear for me, atleast.

Maybe some other LF watchers can give a different perspective.

Nishant and OTTians ka game bahut alag hai... no one, not a single outsider so far has been able to turn them against each other, no matter even if they dislike things about each other.

Even if someone comes to bitch about Pratik or Shamita to Nishant or vice versa, they always ensure they do not get caught in responding or agreeing to anything.

And jab aise open fights chalte rehte hai ghar me, they do not allow any third person to come and question their friendship.

For me, at the end of the day, as a viewer - the OTTians bond comes off looking much better than whatever these junglewasis have. They are atleast sure of each other and they will never allow anyone to turn them against each other or even sit and listen to that.

Game ke liye karo, wo sab theek hai but how you handle your friendships, how you handle your allies, the way you speak about them says a lot about you. The show is not just about the game, it's also about the kind of person you are.

Why else would KK get so much flake for that gaddha comment which was said 2 weeks before and mindlessly without any intent?

I understand your point but still i don't think Umar will break his bond with kk under the influence of rajiv

Originally posted by: _NINA_

You summed it up so well

Saved my time and energy of typing this.

UmRan is long last bond woh nhi tootey ga. Umar is very smart. Jo banda bb ki strategy aur tactics samjh giya woh rajiv ki baaton main nhi aye ga. Bilky woh rajiv ko baaton main laa raha tha.

I actually take back some of the words I said regarding Umar-Teja bonding.. Yes they fight, argue and on the outside it may seem like Karan is the binding factor and he is but they also have a soft corner for each other which is why they get so affected by each other.. If Teja says Karan and Umar are his priority, its the same from his end too..

and you said it.. Umar is a very smart player...so people shouldn't even for a second doubt that he will get influenced by someone like Rajiv.. why would he risk breaking a strong bond that he has with Karan and Teja to be with someone like Rajiv whose loyalties will always be questionable because of his relationship with Shamita? 😆 khud hi socho na..

Isliye ye sari LF ki gossips and bitching sessions ko dil se nahi leni chahiye.. they are ALL playing when they are talking with people outside their group.. whether its Umar talking to Rajiv, or Karan talking to Nishant or Shamita talking to X,Y,Z .. Now they all have come to a point in the game where the core groups will remain as such and it would be foolish to jump into a new group..

Originally posted by: _NINA_

Have you watched the clip where simba said to kk that umar looks like your follower not as bro and kk ny uski haan main haam milayi thi similarly today Umar ny wesy hi Rajiv ki haan main haan milayi. But jitna meine dekha hai for umar kk is his first priority. Even in today's LF when rajiv asked to choose one of them he took kk's name.

Karan always listen silently to other people complaints. Umar was talking a lot about Teja behind her back. Yesterday, She cleared it that her only priority are Karan, Umar and Rashmi. She didn't even talk with Nishant and Pratik. She knows that Umar never considered her as her friend but she is also making him as his priority just for Karan sake like Umar does. What does he expect from her? Does he tell every little thing about his chat with all the housemates and his plans for this game to her . He is playing his own game? Why he is expecting Teja to give every information regarding the game. This fight is unnecessary and have no meaning. Based on the Rajiv and Umar convo, seems like Karan supported Teja so they are gossiping about them. Even if Karan supported her as per assumption, he did the right thing as Vishal is already gone. He made lots of pact with everyone in that house. How does Teja become a flipper and untrustworthy according to Umar and Rajiv. Didn't Umar talk about his priorities with Vishal? Did he told Karan and Teja? So according to his concept, Umar is also flipper and untrustworthy. Didn't Teja supported Vishal till the end? Didn't see save him and Simba got evicted? How does Umar forget all this and blaming her! I don't understand the logic, Umar actually fought! Please someone explain. She never even strategize and talk about game with anyone except Karan, Umar and Rashmi. With others, its just masti talks. Seems like she need stop that also then only Umar will believe that she is good!

Originally posted by: .Rinnie.

Arre yaar.. mujhe wo Teja ke baare me kya bola wo dikkat nahi hai 😆

I have watched the entire LF and I still say Umar is not looking good bitching about his friends with Rajiv, of all people.

When you have reached this point of the game and already there are 2 groups divided, speaking against your own group does not look good. Phele dusre group walo ko nikal do, baadme apne andar ka bitching chalu karo.

The jungle people have been losing due to this, they end up fighting between themselves rather than going as a united front against the OTTians or VIPs.

I understand your point.

I agree with you. Don't over think. Have you seen the clip where nishant said that the first person he will ignore after show is pratik and also will ignore shammo. So this ottian bond is just for game sake but UmTejran bond is real. Especially UmRan

I understand your point Umar never does this bitching and it does not look good on him. Bb can use it to show him in negative light. Tejran fans are and will bash him but koi nhi har roz aisi koi baat utha ky SM par muddey banty hain nothing new.

But i know one thing Umar will never backstab KK that's for sure.

And one more thing yahan ek task 4 episodes taak chalta hai toh aisi night convos ki bari episode main aney sy rahi

Originally posted by: livepraylaugh

Its not about priority about the game. Its about bitching about a person and fighting without any reason as Vishal priority is no one!

Bitching toh teja ny bhi ki hai Umar ki. See these are humans. Even real life Siblings do complaint about each other to their parents now thats also bitching. Yeh toh phir friends hain. Did Umar ever backstab Tejran?