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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: WinterAy

Just a random, mostly meaningless question just because I want to know you guys' views

I'm just asking this coz I loveee the character development and talking about depth of people, and other such topics. Don't mind me....but...

....what do you think is the difference between Sanju and Sanjana?

Sanju is a facade behind which Sanjana hides. She hides her vulnerability with a hard mask,her feminity and 'nothing affects me' attitude.

She doesnt want anyone to see her as weak.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: mineforever

Monu knew Karan was in store room and Karan knew that Monu was outside.

Meri toh yeh interpretation thi ki her words did affect him and when she stopped speaking ,he got up and opened the door and then looked for her.His expressions were not ki woh usse mana karne ke liye bol raha hai because he could have continued to be silent and be in the room..

and I think he was about to close the store room(from outside) door when he saw the second letter.

Agar woh sirf "cadets" ke liye aata toh itna smile nahi karta aur na hi Monu ko wish karta.

He has been struggling with this for so long,he wouldnt have come for cadets.He came because he felt the impact of her words.

I agree 100 💯.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: WinterAy

Just a random, mostly meaningless question just because I want to know you guys' views

I'm just asking this coz I loveee the character development and talking about depth of people, and other such topics. Don't mind me....but...

....what do you think is the difference between Sanju and Sanjana?

Same difference that Sanju from Main hoon naa had .. jhalli Sanju se sexyy Sanjana.. who is closer to her beauty/feminine side(society demands wali) while Sanju is the no-nonsense one woman army.

Best is my Sanj.. who knows when to be feminine and strong and amazing.. leaves me breatheless mostly😉☺️

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: mineforever

Sanju is a facade behind which Sanjana hides. She hides her vulnerability with a hard mask,her feminity and 'nothing affects me' attitude.

She doesnt want anyone to see her as weak.

True! I love the way Diljot balances this! 👏❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

True! I love the way Diljot balances this! 👏❤️

True her character is very beautiful written and crafted for a matter all three female leads but definitely Sanju ka is sabse hatke hain. first female that left me impressed in this manner after Susheela from kaatelal and sons.😊😊😊

Edited by Not_James_bond - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Not_James_bond

True her character is very beautiful written and crafted for a matter all three female leads but definitely Sanju ka is sabse hatke hain. first female that left me impressed in this manner after Susheela from kaatelal and sons.😊😊😊

Sanj is best!! Hainaa!!

She's got range!! And it's beautiful and refreshing! ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

Sanj is best!! Hainaa!!

She's got range!! And it's beautiful and refreshing! ❤️

She's very beautiful written bas expressions thoda change kaare woh , beech main thoda I felt she'd become really panfaced with her expressions but yesterday and today she was awesome.🤩

Koel has quiet the character written but I really think simple needs to work on her acting chops cauz she often falls short and I can't relate to her .

Monami is dynamic, shes the one I connect least too cauz of opposite personalities and she has literally none personality traits that I can relate to she's like alien to me regarding this but even though the character ka delulu is annoying right now she's playing that part well and driving us nuts.😂😂😂

Wish she was as sorted as my monu jaani is.🥰


All characters have been so beautifully written even the male leads , the bonds are precious and pure . Really quiet a example for itv how a guy and a girl can be friends without unnecessary love angle .😊😊

Edited by Not_James_bond - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

Sanj is best!! Hainaa!!

She's got range!! And it's beautiful and refreshing! ❤️


For me, Sanj is different, a refreshing character.

Sanju is the tough, no-nonsense, top commando, the fighter spirit in her- that one that has pushed her to fight her family, fight for her position, fight for the place that she has built for herself. In the end it's just a facade. A crucial part of her, but not wholly real.

That's where Sanjana comes in. Sanjana is the softer humane side of Sanj protected by a tough exterior. And not many people have seen that side. It is the definitely held back by Sanju, but at some point in time it had to come out.

Karan and Faizi call her Sanju because they want to encourage the fighter in her, maybe they have never caught a glimpse of the Sanjana that is looking for someone whom she can be completely vulnerable in front of, she had found Karan. And now Sid.

Coz believe me, even the strongest toughest people need someone whom they don't have to be ok in front of.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: mineforever

Meri toh yeh interpretation thi ki her words did affect him and when she stopped speaking ,he got up aend opened the door and then looked for her.His expressions were not ki woh usse mana karne ke liye bol raha hai because he could have continued to be silent and be in the room..

and I think he was about to close the store room(from outside) door when he saw the second letter.

Agar woh sirf "cadets" ke liye aata toh itna smile nahi karta aur na hi Monu ko wish karta.

referencing about cadets was his way of speaking ,he would never say that he came for her or that her words affected him because that would mean opening up to her for which he is not yet ready.


@Brown: No, he can't remain silent specially with Monami after gunshot and quitting academy incident.

Reason: Faizi's words; that cadets connects with him, they can't understands his moods specially Monami, he should talk to her.

✒️Faizi's words affects Karan a lot because Karan knows that his friend knows and understands him better than others, otherwise he never goes to Monami's room on Faizi's say.

✒️In the picnic too,

🔸Karan explains his words "kisi ke liye bhi" to Monu only because Faizi was highlighting it again and again.

🔸He comes to the picnic only because Faizi asks him to treat Monami in a better way than what he was doing with her, which Karan confesses too before Faizi in the picnic, heard by Monami too.


@Pink: If he was about to close the door from outside that means he has already decided to go outside and celebrate diwali with all, which wasn't the case.

Reason: He is not shown as thinking something after reading the second note, but it happens from 5:16 to 5:29 min.


@Sea Green

🥇First: He came for his 'cadets' only including Monami too as cadet only.

Reasons:

🔸He starts thinking something after reading second note + Faizi's words about cadets in past (mentioned above)

🔸2nd point in his pehli baat which he tells to Monami that Khadoos Shergill ki wajah se sabhi diwali kharaab ho jaaye, that's not right.

🔸Karan is always shown as a leader/trainer who is always there for his junior and cadets.

His scene with Sanju when he says to her that she is not Sanju but SA.Sanjana Dubey and makes her feel better after the disastrous date incident. He also comes to Koel to know the reason why Rawat calls her name as main witness.

Now, after knowing what all Monami has done for him, for baby, for others, also after understanding that he misunderstood her as other privileged rich kids, Karan uski diwali unhappy nahi hone de sakta. He is compensating in installments for all above.


🥈Second: Him wishing her with smile.

Karan knows very well how to hide his pain and smiles for others. Baby ki liye aajtak woh yahi karta aaya hain. He comes out of the room plastering a smile on his face, it's not just for Monami, Ustadji se bhi woh halki si smile ke saat hi baat kar raha tha.


🥉Third: Him wishing Monami

When Karan is not in Khadoos mode, and he has to say his 2 baatein then he doei starts his 2things directly, kuch na kuch pehle bolna zaroori hain usko, mudde ki baat par baad mein aata hain, as when he comes to Monami saying Sorry after her return back to academy.

Other time when his Khadoos mode is on he says his 2 baatein directly, when he comes to Monami's room after locking up Sid in jail.


@Orange: He came for her.

If that's the actual and only reason, he goes directly to her after coming outside and is not looking here and there(11:33 to 11:37 min), she's just before eyes. The place is not even crowded(11:23min) Also after looking at her he can make some excuse to Ustadji and can go to Monami but he doesn't. He continues his talk with UstadJi.


@Violet: Him opening upto her

If he doesn't want to open with her or let her know that he is somewhat opening to her, he never tells her that he is not a social person to Monami that day when he comes to say Sorry. He can end it just by saying Sorry for his behaviour in jeep. On shopping too, he never says to her that "kash woh aisa kar pata" when she talks about sharing pain.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: kavya1994


@Brown: No, he can't remain silent specially with Monami after gunshot and quitting academy incident.

Reason: Faizi's words; that cadets connects with him, they can't understands his moods specially Monami, he should talk to her.

✒️Faizi's words affects Karan a lot because Karan knows that his friend knows and understands him better than others, otherwise he never goes to Monami's room on Faizi's say.

✒️In the picnic too,

🔸Karan explains his words "kisi ke liye bhi" to Monu only because Faizi was highlighting it again and again.

🔸He comes to the picnic only because Faizi asks him to treat Monami in a better way than what he was doing with her, which Karan confesses too before Faizi in the picnic, heard by Monami too.


@Pink: If he was about to close the door from outside that means he has already decided to go outside and celebrate diwali with all, which wasn't the case.

Reason: He is not shown as thinking something after reading the second note, but it happens from 5:16 to 5:29 min.


@Sea Green

🥇First: He came for his 'cadets' only including Monami too as cadet only.

Reasons:

🔸He starts thinking something after reading second note + Faizi's words about cadets in past (mentioned above)

🔸2nd point in his pehli baat which he tells to Monami that Khadoos Shergill ki wajah se sabhi diwali kharaab ho jaaye, that's not right.

🔸Karan is always shown as a leader/trainer who is always there for his junior and cadets.

His scene with Sanju when he says to her that she is not Sanju but SA.Sanjana Dubey and makes her feel better after the disastrous date incident. He also comes to Koel to know the reason why Rawat calls her name as main witness.

Now, after knowing what all Monami has done for him, for baby, for others, also after understanding that he misunderstood her as other privileged rich kids, Karan uski diwali unhappy nahi hone de sakta. He is compensating in installments for all above.


🥈Second: Him wishing her with smile.

Karan knows very well how to hide his pain and smiles for others. Baby ki liye aajtak woh yahi karta aaya hain. He comes out of the room plastering a smile on his face, it's not just for Monami, Ustadji se bhi woh halki si smile ke saat hi baat kar raha tha.


🥉Third: Him wishing Monami

When Karan is not in Khadoos mode, and he has to say his 2 baatein then he doei starts his 2things directly, kuch na kuch pehle bolna zaroori hain usko, mudde ki baat par baad mein aata hain, as when he comes to Monami saying Sorry after her return back to academy.

Other time when his Khadoos mode is on he says his 2 baatein directly, when he comes to Monami's room after locking up Sid in jail.


@Orange: He came for her.

If that's the actual and only reason, he goes directly to her after coming outside and is not looking here and there(11:33 to 11:37 min), she's just before eyes. The place is not even crowded(11:23min) Also after looking at her he can make some excuse to Ustadji and can go to Monami but he doesn't. He continues his talk with UstadJi.


@Violet: Him opening upto her

If he doesn't want to open with her or let her know that he is somewhat opening to her, he never tells her that he is not a social person to Monami that day when he comes to say Sorry. He can end it just by saying Sorry for his behaviour in jeep. On shopping too, he never says to her that "kash woh aisa kar pata" when she talks about sharing pain.


I concur.

Karan has a mind clouded with past memories which he has castled himself with. He does not want to realise or see world with a different lens.

Monami will take a long time to break in. The walls are softening but will take time to break.


At the moment it is guilt, gratitude and concern for Monami.

At this moment, Monami should not do this stupid confession act and ruin it herself.

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