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Posted: 3 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: -Halo00-



That is not right though, that we wait for Pratik to make a mudda. We can acknowledge something is wrong even if the person doesn't. It sets a precedence. If Pratik may be ok, a lot of others wouldn't.

And this was a mistake, not intentional. No one groped her. It happens in games/sports especially where people are hyped up and in close proximity. That is why people are defending it. Women in BB have used this card before unfairly.

I am not saying Afsana is wrong to feel that way. But then for everyone to judge these people on a mistake, that is jumping the gun. Don't make more serious than it is.

No wonder they always just send the guys to play -.-

people were tackling her on 2/9/21 episode but nobody neither contestants nor audience said anything because as you said it was a game. It became mudda when afsana said it was problem so there is no question of gender card here.


Yes things happen in task and sport and it's ok you say I am sorry it was not intentional I'll be more mindful next time. You do not say you are playing woman card or if you put something there ye to hog hi.


That day pratik did not made precedence today afsana did and how people are reacting toit? Calling it woman card? Victim blaming? What aboutism? Is it the kind of precedence people should make?


And just because it happened to pratik it should happen to everyone or does it give him to do it to someone else?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Is it just me or does this guy really shed crocodile tears?

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Posted: 3 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Bluehue

people were tackling her on 2/9/21 episode but nobody neither contestants nor audience said anything because as you said it was a game. It became mudda when afsana said it was problem so there is no question of gender card here.


Yes things happen in task and sport and it's ok you say I am sorry it was not intentional I'll be more mindful next time. You do not say you are playing woman card or if you put something there ye to hog hi.


That day pratik did not made precedence today afsana did and how people are reacting toit? Calling it woman card? Victim blaming? What aboutism? Is it the kind of precedence people should make?


And just because it happened to pratik it should happen to everyone or does it give him to do it to someone else?


On 2/9, she may not have been accidentally touched elsewhere. If someone is making an issue out of an accidental/impromptu touch, then it is a woman card. It has happened before, women saying don't come close don't do this. Clearly she hid the coconuts in her shirt for this task as well cause she thought no one would go near it. Guys should hide it in their pants then as well.

I didn't say just because it happened to Pratik, it should happen to everyone. I said if no one raises a voice because Pratik didn't, next time it would happen to someone else because that is deemed ok. I am saying people should have the same stance regardless of whether or not the person in question made a mudda out of it. For instance, Karan pushed Pratik, he didn't drag the issue but people still acknowledged it was wrong.

Afsana can feel bad but she shouldn't make it a bigger issue than it is. There is no mudda here in my opinion. Someone made a mistake in a game, that's it. To drag it to a touched me inappropriately etc. is just making it into smth it isn't.

From what i am reading, Karan says that Pratik is saying ""If a girl goes in a dangerous area and if she gets rap**you can't say it is her fault." That is escalating the issue.

On that note, if you flaunt your jewelry when going to a dangerous area and get robbed. It's not your fault but you did have poor judgement as Afsana did here.


Ironically, didn't Afsana "tear" Akasa's jacket? Even I didn't think Afsana had any bad intentions but it was girl/girl so who cares i guess.

Edited by -Halo00- - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: -Halo00-


On 2/9, she may not have been accidentally touched elsewhere. If someone is making an issue out of an accidental/impromptu touch, then it is a woman card. It has happened before, women saying don't come close don't do this. Clearly she hid the coconuts in her shirt for this task as well cause she thought no one would go near it. Guys should hide it in their pants then as well.

I didn't say just because it happened to Pratik, it should happen to everyone. I said if no one raises a voice because Pratik didn't, next time it would happen to someone else because that is deemed ok. I am saying people should have the same stance regardless of whether or not the person in question made a mudda out of it. For instance, Karan pushed Pratik, he didn't drag the issue but people still acknowledged it was wrong.

Afsana can feel bad but she shouldn't make it a bigger issue than it is. There is no mudda here in my opinion. Someone made a mistake in a game, that's it. To drag it to a touched me inappropriately etc. is just making it into smth it isn't.

From what i am reading, Karan says that Pratik is saying ""If a girl goes in a dangerous area and if she gets rap**you can't say it is her fault." That is escalating the issue.

On that note, if you flaunt your jewelry when going to a dangerous area and get robbed. It's not your fault but you did have poor judgement as Afsana did here.


Ironically, didn't Afsana "tear" Akasa's jacket? Even I didn't think Afsana had any bad intentions but it was girl/girl so who cares i guess.

and who can decide that a touch on their body was issue or mudda for them? The person afsana felt it and said it. A woman drawing a boundary for her body is not playing woman card. It's her right. And nobody can say it's woman card because it's victim card.


Karan Escalade issue because they tried to downplay it and to justify it and wanted to victim blame and it was wrong.


Nobody said what happened to pratik was right but nobody said anything until afsana said something here as well. It was mistake and its ok But he tried to justify it and it was wrong.


And yes your example is victim blaming too, people has to visit various places for gazillion reasons and getting raped or getting robbed is never fault of victim. Never. And nothing can make it thier fault.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bluehue

and who can decide that a touch on their body was issue or mudda for them? The person afsana felt it and said it. A woman drawing a boundary for her body is not playing woman card. It's her right. And nobody can say it's woman card because it's victim card.


Karan Escalade issue because they tried to downplay it and to justify it and wanted to victim blame and it was wrong.


Nobody said what happened to pratik was right but nobody said anything until afsana said something here as well. It was mistake and its ok But he tried to justify it and it was wrong.


And yes your example is victim blaming too, people has to visit various places for gazillion reasons and getting raped or getting robbed is never fault of victim. Never. And nothing can make it thier fault.


Like Shamita said, if you hide coconuts in your shirt or hide them near your body, there is a risk. She should have the foresight to understand that. People have been aggressive since the start.She put it in her shirt because she thought no one would go for it. She can’t have her cake and eat it to. To come in guns blazing, “don’t touch me again” the heck was the point in that. She didn’t say you accidentally touched me, made me feel bad etc. She screamed at him.


No one was downplaying it. Afsana came in screaming saying don’t touch me and they were saying it was a game, he didn’t mean to and they apologized. She kept going after Simba. Even Karan said there is no mudda and thought it could be a strategy. I just don’t like the way Afsana handled it. It was very accusatory. You can say i wish not to be touched but then don’t go hiding coconuts in your clothes. That’s a definite strategy.

They weren’t justifying it, they were explaining and it would be fine if Afsana didn’t come in telling Simba to back off.

I never said it was victim’s fault in my example.

I can blame both the perpetrator for the crime and i can JUDGE the victim for their naivety. It’s not mutually exclusive.

Edited by -Halo00- - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Halo00-


Like Shamita said, if you hide coconuts in your shirt or hide them near your body, there is a risk. She should have the foresight to understand that. People have been aggressive since the start.She put it in her shirt because she thought no one would go for it. She can’t have her cake and eat it to. To come in guns blazing, “don’t touch me again” the heck was the point in that. She didn’t say you accidentally touched me, made me feel bad etc. She screamed at him.


No one was downplaying it. Afsana came in screaming saying don’t touch me and they were saying it was a game, he didn’t mean to and they apologized. She kept going after Simba. Even Karan said there is no mudda and thought it could be a strategy. I just don’t like the way Afsana handled it. It was very accusatory. You can say i wish not to be touched but then don’t go hiding coconuts in your clothes. That’s a definite strategy.

They weren’t justifying it, they were explaining and it would be fine if Afsana didn’t come in telling Simba to back off.

I never said it was victim’s fault in my example.

I can blame both the perpetrator for the crime and i can JUDGE the victim for their naivety. It’s not mutually exclusive.

bold:victim blaming. And no nobody can touch here there even if she had hidden something there. If people had issue with hiding it there bolo sachalak ke waha mat dalne do you can not just go and grab it from there and give silly justifications.


If someone touch a woman's breast she won't go hey please can you not touch me there it makes me uncomfortable... It's basic decency and if someone fails in that a woman will go all gun blazing as she should.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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The one person who pointed out both that Afsana shouldn’t attempt to play the woman card here, and that some of the others’ “logic” was akin to victim blaming - that one person is apparently a loser. LMAO - not in my book.

The losers last night were people like Shammo and Jay - whose thought processes need a lot of work, and Pratik, who as usual jumped on one word and twisted it’s context and blew it out of proportion to make the other person look bad - as is pretty much par for the course when it comes to Pratik.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#58

Shamita- if u put stuff in ur cloths, then boys can touch you because you are doing it with ur OWN choice

FEW WEEKS BACK

When Akasa WITH HER OWN CHOICE jumped in map snatching task, after her buttons broke and she wore a jacket , jumped in the task back again and then started blaming Afsana for tearing her clothes & Shammo was like How dare she did it 🤔

so that time her views were not ke Akasa jumped in the task with her own choice so Akasa should have expected this


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