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Who creates the situation is irrelevant. Individuals can be judged by how they react to the situation. Pallavi reacted honestly. When she woke up, she called Raghav to reassure him, because he was important to her. Raghav should have been concerned that Pallavi had "suddenly fallen asleep" at a party - is she narcoleptic, or was she drugged? Instead, Raghav snapped at Pallavi because he was lonely and insecure. His feelings took precedence over her health.

When it was Raghav's turn, did he act like a married man? Did he think about Pallavi's feelings when he shared a room with the "me too" woman? Did it matter to him that Pallavi wouldn't want him to get drunk with someone whom he had "kissed" in the past? When he pretended that the pleasure was happening with Pallavi, did he think of how intimacy with Pallavi should make her feel?

Is Raghav allowing Pallavi to make informed decisions about getting close to his defiled body? (Even if you are convinced that he was victimized, his wife has the right to know whether she's in a monogamous relationship; anything less is cheating.) Doesn't Pallavi deserve to know why Raghav is being harsh with her and gentle with the other woman? Should he allow her to fast for him and touch his feet, or go on a honeymoon with him, while he could have a communicable disease or the other woman could be carrying his child? Again, Raghav values his own feelings over Pallavi's health and dignity.

Anyone can check the forum rules if you have forgotten that mocking other members' opinions (sarcasm, speculation about what they would say) is not allowed.

Here's my answer to the suggestion that I would treat Pallavi as a victim if she looked outside her marriage.

I am writing a fan fiction in which Raghav observes Pallavi talking to Mandar in Marathi and sharing wedding memories with Mandar, then Raghav pleads with Pallavi to stay but Pallavi moves out, taking money from Raghav, Pallavi feels emotional and physical attraction and says yes to Mandar, Pallavi plans to annull her marriage to Raghav and spend Raghav's money on lawyer's fees for Mandar ... and I don't consider any of this to be cheating because she does it openly and for honest reasons. In my story, Raghav even tells Pallavi that he would take her back after she did "married life" with Mandar. Feel free to read the story and tell me your moral opinions.

Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

It’s quite shallow to only equate physical act with cheating.

Raghav has actively emotionally cheated on Pallavi from almost the beginning of Esha track and has even taken undue advantage of her trust.

Night at warangal is just another small issue at this point , as Raghav has done worse things after it.

Now helping Easha and bringing her to the room wasn’t his fault but to stay back and most importantly participating in that drinking game with his ex where he knew about her intentions were wrong . If I remember correctly he kept mentioning how after drinking too much he doesn’t even remember anything hence losing control while staying with another woman in the room who supposedly have feelings for him and who also had a past with him was a wrong wrong decision . At that moment he forgot about Palavi and his marital status as mentioned by LWR and that by all means is cheating :

Again the ONS was not intentional and most likely he didn’t even do anything but yes he was taken advantage of which is wrong but there he didn’t cheat Pals

As for the circumstances later he did wrong by accepting his ex offer to give her a space in his life .Now helping her from her abusive relationship wasn’t wrong but accepting her proposal was wrong and no Matter what he had in his mind then he led Easha into believing that he still harbors feelings for her and that’s again wrong . Later whatever happened he might’ve done those as a good friend but him walking upto her room very late at night , them hugging each other for a long time aren’t just friendly . Now makers might’ve done that for Trp which backfired but as a viewer those looked like something else to us . So yeah he did cheat her not physically but yes emotionally for sure by giving into his ex demands many times , by hiding facts from his wife which could’ve prevented many things , by being rude and dishonest with her , by bringing that ex to his home and also by making Easha believe that he harbors feelings for her still somewhere in his heart .

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

Who creates the situation is irrelevant. Individuals can be judged by how they react to the situation. Pallavi reacted honestly. When she woke up, she called Raghav to reassure him, because he was important to her. Raghav should have been concerned that Pallavi had "suddenly fallen asleep" at a party - is she narcoleptic, or was she drugged? Instead, Raghav snapped at Pallavi because he was lonely and insecure. His feelings took precedence over her health.

When it was Raghav's turn, did he act like a married man? Did he think about Pallavi's feelings when he shared a room with the "me too" woman? Did it matter to him that Pallavi wouldn't want him to get drunk with someone whom he had "kissed" in the past? When he pretended that the pleasure was happening with Pallavi, did he think of how intimacy with Pallavi should make her feel?

Is Raghav allowing Pallavi to make informed decisions about getting close to his defiled body? (Even if you are convinced that he was victimized, his wife has the right to know whether she's in a monogamous relationship; anything less is cheating.) Doesn't Pallavi deserve to know why Raghav is being harsh with her and gentle with the other woman? Should he allow her to fast for him and touch his feet, or go on a honeymoon with him, while he could have a communicable disease or the other woman could be carrying his child? Again, Raghav values his own feelings over Pallavi's health and dignity.

Anyone can check the forum rules if you have forgotten that mocking other members' opinions (sarcasm, speculation about what they would say) is not allowed.

Here's my answer to the suggestion that I would treat Pallavi as a victim if she looked outside her marriage.

I am writing a fan fiction in which Raghav observes Pallavi talking to Mandar in Marathi and sharing wedding memories with Mandar, then Raghav pleads with Pallavi to stay but Pallavi moves out, taking money from Raghav, Pallavi feels emotional and physical attraction and says yes to Mandar, Pallavi plans to annull her marriage to Raghav and spend Raghav's money on lawyer's fees for Mandar ... and I don't consider any of this to be cheating because she does it openly and for honest reasons. In my story, Raghav even tells Pallavi that he would take her back after she did "married life" with Mandar. Feel free to read the story and tell me your moral opinions.

Originally posted by: Trina2021

I agree . That accidental ONs doesn’t matter to b honest it’s the things he did b4 and after that only matters and yes that way he definitely cheated on her . Let me tell you how ? Easha clearly confessed her feelings to him and even after Pallavis repeated Enquiry he didn’t bother to reply Infact bashed her even tho he knew Eashas feelings behind that message .

Now helping Easha and bringing her to the room wasn’t his fault but to stay back and most importantly participating in that drinking game with his ex where he knew about her intentions were wrong . If I remember correctly he kept mentioning how after drinking too much he doesn’t even remember anything hence losing control while staying with another woman in the room who supposedly have feelings for him and who also had a past with him was a wrong wrong decision . At that moment he forgot about Palavi and his marital status as mentioned by LWR and that by all means is cheating :

Again the ONS was not intentional and most likely he didn’t even do anything but yes he was taken advantage of which is wrong but there he didn’t cheat Pals

As for the circumstances later he did wrong by accepting his ex offer to give her a space in his life .Now helping her from her abusive relationship wasn’t wrong but accepting her proposal was wrong and no Matter what he had in his mind then he led Easha into believing that he still harbors feelings for her and that’s again wrong . Later whatever happened he might’ve done those as a good friend but him walking upto her room very late at night , them hugging each other for a long time aren’t just friendly . Now makers might’ve done that for Trp which backfired but as a viewer those looked like something else to us . So yeah he did cheat her not physically but yes emotionally for sure by giving into his ex demands many times , by hiding facts from his wife which could’ve prevented many things , by being rude and dishonest with her , by bringing that ex to his home and also by making Easha believe that he harbors feelings for her still somewhere in his heart .

How I wish we had a scene, where Raghav begs her to come back to him after she saves his life and she tells him that she saved his life because she loved him..her marriage to him was her compulsion but she fell in love with him by her choice and will continue to love him as long as she wants, she saved him coz she can’t see him in danger but she will not trust her life with him anymore because he is not trustworthy…after confessing love to her and being married to her he still fell in love with Esha when she came back so if he can do it once then he can do it again and fall in love with any woman as he wants, so she doesn’t want to be a wife to a man who doesn’t know to trust honor and be honest with the relationship…he can be with anyone he wants, she frees him from the relationship and walks away heads high….

Originally posted by: binnis

Dude did I mention pallavi is wrong .No

I mentioned about two different circumstances that happened in both raghav and pallavi life when their respective Xpartners made entry in their life .And they both got trapped by their Xpartners

Both mandar and esha intention is to separate raghav and pallavi so they both plotted plans to create differences among raghav and pallavi .

Regarding cheating - we are called cheater when we do things in conscious mind .Anyone can take advantage of our unconscious mind .Raghav didn't plan to meet esha in that hotel nor he thought of spending night with her.SOMETIME circumstances put us in wrong place .Its like being at wrong place at wrong time.

If you read with open mind i explained in details about both raghav and pallavi situation after entry of their x .

Cheating is when raghav would have planned to meet esha to spend time with her.

He still treat her as good friend and helping as he is unaware of her evil intention.

He loves pallavi and feel bad for not treating her properly because of guilt.He told farhad he is not good person because of way he is treating her

I'm understand ur point but I'm not talking about physical cheat bcz I know it may not be truth. After warrangal kaand what raghav is doing till now is intentional cheating on pallu's innocence. Pallavi never tell lie. If she wrong she accept it and never hide from raghav.and I have to say raghav always accept his mistake . But instead of telling the truth he always want to hide it. Of course now u will say he is feeling insecure but why because pallavi will leave him after knowing the truth. He is always like this. Now I want to tell u that he will never change. He deserves ewshhaa like girl who is smart, independent today even he question on pallavi's efforts mahanata wow raghav ewshhaa ke liye kush bhi. And u telling me open my mind . Now u open ur eyes. And see what raghav is doing is really good. U decide who is wrong pallavi or raghav.

Originally posted by: binnis

Dude did I mention pallavi is wrong .No

I mentioned about two different circumstances that happened in both raghav and pallavi life when their respective Xpartners made entry in their life .And they both got trapped by their Xpartners

Both mandar and esha intention is to separate raghav and pallavi so they both plotted plans to create differences among raghav and pallavi .

Regarding cheating - we are called cheater when we do things in conscious mind .Anyone can take advantage of our unconscious mind .Raghav didn't plan to meet esha in that hotel nor he thought of spending night with her.SOMETIME circumstances put us in wrong place .Its like being at wrong place at wrong time.

If you read with open mind i explained in details about both raghav and pallavi situation after entry of their x .

Cheating is when raghav would have planned to meet esha to spend time with her.

He still treat her as good friend and helping as he is unaware of her evil intention.

He loves pallavi and feel bad for not treating her properly because of guilt.He told farhad he is not good person because of way he is treating her

And without arguing further I can only say that night when raghav was talking to farhad he said as he is bad person selfish and don't deserve pallavi was quite right and true .that's enough to justify how guilty he is . guilty or not doesn't matter afterall raghav did much more wrong I .e. Sins as showing middle finger to his own marriage giving a place to his esha to live having atleast little (!)feel for her (before pallavi brought esha home) and to pallavi who claim him as life, being harsh on her any tiny matter as if he is the only one done a very good job. but people here still defending him bcz he is guilty . now I'm done with their mentality when they say pallavi mandar too could have ons oh god please stop it . to defend RR don't go too low

Originally posted by: Trina2021

I agree . That accidental ONs doesn’t matter to b honest it’s the things he did b4 and after that only matters and yes that way he definitely cheated on her . Let me tell you how ? Easha clearly confessed her feelings to him and even after Pallavis repeated Enquiry he didn’t bother to reply Infact bashed her even tho he knew Eashas feelings behind that message .

Now helping Easha and bringing her to the room wasn’t his fault but to stay back and most importantly participating in that drinking game with his ex where he knew about her intentions were wrong . If I remember correctly he kept mentioning how after drinking too much he doesn’t even remember anything hence losing control while staying with another woman in the room who supposedly have feelings for him and who also had a past with him was a wrong wrong decision . At that moment he forgot about Palavi and his marital status as mentioned by LWR and that by all means is cheating :

Again the ONS was not intentional and most likely he didn’t even do anything but yes he was taken advantage of which is wrong but there he didn’t cheat Pals

As for the circumstances later he did wrong by accepting his ex offer to give her a space in his life .Now helping her from her abusive relationship wasn’t wrong but accepting her proposal was wrong and no Matter what he had in his mind then he led Easha into believing that he still harbors feelings for her and that’s again wrong . Later whatever happened he might’ve done those as a good friend but him walking upto her room very late at night , them hugging each other for a long time aren’t just friendly . Now makers might’ve done that for Trp which backfired but as a viewer those looked like something else to us . So yeah he did cheat her not physically but yes emotionally for sure by giving into his ex demands many times , by hiding facts from his wife which could’ve prevented many things , by being rude and dishonest with her , by bringing that ex to his home and also by making Easha believe that he harbors feelings for her still somewhere in his heart .

WE are judged for doing things in conscious mind

If you remember raghav fight with mandar when he took pallavi in his room.Raghav wanted tobe with pallavi but mandar's father stopped him from going near to her. Please watch that episode.

Raghav didn't plan to meet esha in wrrangla.It was coincidence they were in same hotel and till that time raghav hated her for leaving him for money .But he never knew he will save her husband that night and had to spend time with her on same room as all room was booked.It was circumstances that makes us do things which we never thought of doing.

That night esha told him truth about not marrying him and after knowing the trurh all his hatred for was gone.He treated her like good friend and so when she insisted him to drink he agreed.He was not awareof her dirty intention .We do even those things that we are told by our closed ones not to do when friends insist us this is not something abnormal.So drinking happened.

Even that time he has no intention of sleeping with esha or cheat pallavi .He fell on bed in unconscious stage and even at that time pallavi was on his mind.

Esha took advantage of his unconscious stageNext morning when he found esha sleeping next to him he was shocked.

i never said pallavi cheated. I mentioned about how situation shaped up when their x parters cameback in their life.How raghav pallavi both got trapped by their xdirty plan .How both trusted their x partners more then the present partners .when raghav told about mandar bad intention she didn't trust him and same will happen in esha case

Originally posted by: farheenbachani

. Agree! The night is something we cannot change so its done. What happened we dont know. We only know what was shown to us. And based on that yes raghav was at fault and so was esha. Raghav if he had told pallavi what the msg was, then we might have seen something entirely different. Well that cannot be changed. Anyway then he was in his senses when esha confessed to him and hugged him and he did and then pushed her. She acted all bechari and whatever and he got hooked which is where the problem started. He forgot about what he had promised pallavi with regards to drinking. Anyway kaand is done. Then he calls pallavi ans acts calm. Meets lwr ans confesses the mistake and said i thought it was pallavi. So then when he got home pallavi is worried and hugs him and he pushes her away. She has looked all over foe him as keerti said and he just pushes her when he is the one who called her earlier. Ok after that he kept pushing her away feeling guilty and dirty to even touch or look at her. Ok i get that but then he is fine to look at his ex and touch her? What are they showing. This is where it started to go downhill. Him being concerned for his ex would have been fine in normal circumstances bcoz we know raghav will save a woman in need. He has saved pallavi even when they were enemies so he wouldn’t leave esha either and that i totally get but this is the woman he cheated his wife with. How can he look at her? Helping her i get and maybe they should have shown him to be a bit more remorseful, not looking at esha properly, maybe just one word replies, takijg hand away when she touches, avertinf his gaze when she looks at him, cutting her off when she tries to say anything about feelings etc. that woukd have made sense. Thay night when he goes to talk to her, it was with intention of asking why she came. I get that. Then she says dont blame me for everything. You are at fault too. You should accept your mistake too. And he should have told her yes i accept that mistake as i thought i was with my wife and that u were here. I was drunk. I have no feelings foe u. And when she tried to hug, he shoukd have removed her hands and walked away. Instead he lets her hug him. After that all scenes were just too much. All set to butcher Raghav. The karwa chauth, the soup feeding, askinf if esha ate, then telling pallavi that esha was only talking good and pallavi apologizing to esha (i mean wth was that…raghav watches while his wife apologizes ro the woman he cheated his wife with). How does that make sense? So basically the script had a huge problem. This track could have worked so well with some jealousy of pallavi being ahown and raghav taking advantage of that and creatinf some masti by making it like esha is modern etc and pallavi acts all modern and dresses in that black dress and arranges date and so on. Would have been good to see. Anyway in my books yes Raghav did cheat on pallavi. Not necessarily sexually but he cheated on his promise to her.

He was not aware of esha bad intention and he hate her even during that phone message and so got irritated when pallavi asked about that message Sometime when we hate someone so much that we don't even want to talk or discuss about that person and this is the reason he got irritated when pallavi asked about that message.This happens in real life too sometime we overreact when our close one wants to discuss something but we want to avoid that.

Originally posted by: chokri

Too much expectations from Raghav and Pallavi gets a free pass as she is a woman. You are right makers can't show Pallavi having one night stand . If she had one the same ppl here who is on loud speaker shouting how Raghav is a cheater will be like arre yaar she was drugged and got molested. poor girl bechari frozen cute naive ayyo venkateswaraaa.. Raghav is a man thats what his fault is.

Aiyoo why we will say that way. We all know raghav is flawed character with perfection.ur words hurting me to the core. Raghav is innocent. Only Blind ppl can see his loyalty towards pallavi 😆😆