*~*TAZBU (SaiShi and RaghVi) AT 16*~* Bakhuda Tumhi Ho - Page 52

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Guys I have a genuine question:

In this track we know we are on the same page but let's say if you were of the opinion that Raghav is cheating on Pallavi and that she needs better and that she should leave him.

After loving Raghvi so much, would you continue to watch the show (so many of us have left, I would have too)?

Would you come to the forum and critisize him day in and out and boil your blood, I know I wouldn't. I would never waste my time in talking about a cheater.

If you think Pallavi should walk out or deserves better, would you still watch the show after things get back to track eventually.

For me there are some love stories which got ruined and I never could go back to them. In those cases, I prefer not to continue watching the show again. Because it is going to boil my blood when I see that the love story would never be same.

Here in RaghVi case - there is clear line where we know Raghav has erred and where he did not err and was taken advantage in his unconscious state. And the guilt of Raghav is what makes me feel that the creatives can and will redeem the character. He will walk through Hell and more to get back his Pallavi. The way he said in today's bedroom scene - yeh ghamandi rao apne saree ka dukan ka hain aur uski ka rahega. There is no way he will allow anyone to be his wife ever. That is why I am watching the show - To see the lone wolf Raghav going through hell to get his wife, his rightful soulmate back in his life.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Guys I have a genuine question:

In this track we know we are on the same page but let's say if you were of the opinion that Raghav is cheating on Pallavi and that she needs better and that she should leave him.

After loving Raghvi so much, would you continue to watch the show (so many of us have left, I would have too)?

Would you come to the forum and critisize him day in and out and boil your blood, I know I wouldn't. I would never waste my time in talking about a cheater.

If you think Pallavi should walk out or deserves better, would you still watch the show after things get back to track eventually.

Ren dear! Thanks for the tag...

Raghav is DEFINITELY not cheating on Pallavi here. He is being a moron yes where he is unable to be honest with Pallavi and creating more trouble for himself.

I have invested my time and affection to the characters of this show, so whatever the outcome I would definitely continue to watch the show and come to the forum too to read all the deep character analysis and discussions.

Which is EXACTLY what we are doing right now!!!!!!!

I am SO EXCITED to be a part of the discussion at the same time as all of you!

Ruby, agree with everything you said so I won't bother quoting the post.

Mereko samajh aagaya hai Sikku ka angle!

Basically, Pallavi is being heavily white-washed now. The constant dialogue about "tum itni achi ho, itna bada dil" waghera waghera goes to show that they're trying to undo all the gaaliyan she got during the Mandaar track. Zahir hai, Sitara pe female lead can do no wrong, so in an effort to white-wash Pallavi, Raghav is being shown as an insensitive cheater. Khair, dafa karo. My theory remains that Raghav is being framed par woh dou chaar hafton mein pata chalega.

LOVED how maa beti bajaoed Esha! Bohat achi tarha sunaya dono ne and Keerti's slap was outstanding! I think Amma will remain firm and I'm hoping her next order of business is to bajao Raghav and tell him to focus on his marriage, his family, and his work, not the welfare case his wife has brought home.

I also think Amma can take a more severe stance here and say mere ghar mein yeh ladki nahi rahegi. Pallavi might cry ke yeh mera bhi ghar hai and all, but if Amma stands her ground, then I don't see Esha staying more than a minute in RR mansion. Koi bhi saas yeh bakwaasiyat bardasht nahi karegi.That being said, koi bhi biwi yeh harkat nahi karegi. I'm not bashing Pallavi at all, but I do think it's rather ridiculous to open your arms and your doors to your husband's ex. No matter what the situation is - get her a hotel room, an AirBNB, accomodate her anywhere else you can on your dime, but not in your own home!

The double-edged sword here is that Sunny also got a place in this house without anyone's approval and I find it amusing that Amma is suddenly on Keerti's side and is worrying with her about Raghav's ex jab ke Sunny abhi bhi unhe pasand nahi hai. Bechari Amma. Dono bachon ki first choice bilkul bekaar nikli.

Raghav's senti dialogue pushed me to tears! Love it when he introduces Telugu in his emotional scenes. Again, I don't exactly know what steps he can take to rectify his apparent mistake, but I hope he takes some action soon. Chahe sach bole, chahe kisi ka munh tode, kuch na kuch toh kare, bore hogayi hoon uski inaction se. His sarcasm hardly surfaces aaj kal and his sadness is adding to my sadness. I'm currently on episode 97 in my rewatching spree and I really miss that Raghav! (For reference, that's when Bada Bindi was exposed for the necklace theft)

Precap was HILARIOUS! Aap kaun behenji?! Aapka college wala Raghu tha, aur jab kisi cheez ke aage tha lag jaata hai toh uska value khatam hojata hai. Ardhamainda?

Yaar if nothing else, koi iss bechari ko acting hi sikha dou. My heart does not go out for her at all. I see what she means that she's not the only culprit here (if by any small chance Raghav was not framed) but I can't seem to sympathize with her. Wasn't she some rich hotshot? How has she not put her ex-husband behind bars yet? I took her as somewhat of a female version of RR when she was initially introduced, but yeh toh Vitamin D se bhi badi phuski bomb nikli!

Originally posted by: rubys07

One thing about Esha's dialogue from the precap that made me think:

"Agar woh purana college wala Raghav hota toh..."

They say that love changes you for the better. Love makes you a better person, or at least it makes you want to be a better person. All these times (pre-Esha) we've known Pallavi and Raghav, Pallavi has always told him to let go, taught him to be the bigger person, inspired him to do things that are unlike him, that brings out a version of him that his Amma and everyone would love and respect. She was never an instigator. And here we have this ladki who is throwing tantrums because Raghav didn't resort to his usual violence and let that servant go. This makes a few things as clear as daylight (We're yet to watch the episode and I'm basing this solely on the precap):

1. Had Raghav ended up with Esha, he would've never become the person he is today. Esha and Raghav probably have a similar lens through which they looked at the world (except Esha is 10x more delulu), hence she would've never questioned him or challenged him the way his Saree ka Dukaan did/still does. In fact, Esha's love might've brought out a far worse/toxic/evil side of him because she would fan his ego and anger the way she is trying to do in the precap. What kind of love turns you into a worse person?

2. Esha might've known Raghu but she has no clue who Raghav is, and more specifically, who Pallavi's Raghav is. Yes, there are still things about him that Esha uses to her advantage but that's because Raghav's mind nowadays is preoccupied with his guilt and this idiot can't think straight when he's in trouble. However, she would never be able to fathom why he does or doesn't do something that the old Raghav would've done. I'd like to believe that'll be one of the reasons behind her downfall.

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Originally posted by: RainbowUnicorm

I can only say..poor Sai Ketan...he actually posted a story from a fan website which lists his mistakes related to Esha and Pallavi....the actor actually has the guts and honesty to post that on his insta story...shows that he himself doesnt support what Raghav is doing.

Feel sorry for the actors.

Sicku is doing this for the trp. Warna the show shuts shop. Jo bhi he's doing, it is clearly working.

We have to sometimes chose between lesser of the two evils in life. I wish things weren't this way but this track is really good. Like Sharada said we are getting angst back. It's not a show for the faint hearted. Roz dekh ke anxiety hoti hai mujhe but I'm a masochist, kya karun🤣

I am happy the actors have a gig right now than feel sorry they have to perform something they don't have a choice over.

Originally posted by: RainbowUnicorm

I can only say..poor Sai Ketan...he actually posted a story from a fan website which lists his mistakes related to Esha and Pallavi....the actor actually has the guts and honesty to post that on his insta story...shows that he himself doesnt support what Raghav is doing.

Feel sorry for the actors.

Totally agree - Sai is very clear in his head and I admire him for that. Sai has a huge hand in making Raghav Rao Iconic so obviously he would be feeling bad seeing his character and his hardwork going down the drain like this. I really hope Sai does some strong characters with better PHs - He totally deserves a bigger platform now.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Guys I have a genuine question:

In this track we know we are on the same page but let's say if you were of the opinion that Raghav is cheating on Pallavi and that she needs better and that she should leave him.

After loving Raghvi so much, would you continue to watch the show (so many of us have left, I would have too)?

Would you come to the forum and critisize him day in and out and boil your blood, I know I wouldn't. I would never waste my time in talking about a cheater.

If you think Pallavi should walk out or deserves better, would you still watch the show after things get back to track eventually.

Yeah I’d watch or come back to watch bc it’s just tv. I’m still watching UD knowing they’re going to redeem F 😂🤣🤷🏽‍♀️. If the redemption is good enough, I’d come back to watch.

Coming to the forum and criticizing. Idk depends on how bothered I was. If I just wanted to troll and vent. Sure. That’s all UD forum people do - me included. I keep referencing ud bc that’s the only other forum I go check out nowadays that is to the non forum viewer, overtly negative. 😂😂

If it’s straight up so negative that I’m internally livid then prob not. If it’s triggering then prob not.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Guys I have a genuine question:

In this track we know we are on the same page but let's say if you were of the opinion that Raghav is cheating on Pallavi and that she needs better and that she should leave him.

After loving Raghvi so much, would you continue to watch the show (so many of us have left, I would have too)?

Would you come to the forum and critisize him day in and out and boil your blood, I know I wouldn't. I would never waste my time in talking about a cheater.

If you think Pallavi should walk out or deserves better, would you still watch the show after things get back to track eventually.

If I truly felt that Raghav is cheating on Pallavi, then yes, I'd stop watching. I'd stay in touch with you all because that's something I cherish from this forum apart from the show and RaghVi.

I would not waste time coming to the forum to criticize him or anyone else on the team for that matter. Baharr mein jaayein sab.

I don't think Pallavi deserves better... she deserves Raghav for who he is and how he is, as he deserves her for who she is and how she is. They're soulmates for a reason. I think Pallavi's naivety is landing her in a bigger rut than she can fathom, but that's a tangent for later.

In all honesty, if it wasn't for you girls and Sai, I would've stopped watching some time back and probably returned once things got back on track. That's my funda with ITV and that's why I love it so much, beech beech mein chorr ke bhi catch up kar sakte hain.

Originally posted by: rubys07

One thing about Esha's dialogue from the precap that made me think:

"Agar woh purana college wala Raghav hota toh..."

They say that love changes you for the better. Love makes you a better person, or at least it makes you want to be a better person. All these times (pre-Esha) we've known Pallavi and Raghav, Pallavi has always told him to let go, taught him to be the bigger person, inspired him to do things that are unlike him, that brings out a version of him that his Amma and everyone would love and respect. She was never an instigator. And here we have this ladki who is throwing tantrums because Raghav didn't resort to his usual violence and let that servant go. This makes a few things as clear as daylight (We're yet to watch the episode and I'm basing this solely on the precap):

1. Had Raghav ended up with Esha, he would've never become the person he is today. Esha and Raghav probably have a similar lens through which they looked at the world (except Esha is 10x more delulu), hence she would've never questioned him or challenged him the way his Saree ka Dukaan did/still does. In fact, Esha's love might've brought out a far worse/toxic/evil side of him because she would fan his ego and anger the way she is trying to do in the precap. What kind of love turns you into a worse person?

2. Esha might've known Raghu but she has no clue who Raghav is, and more specifically, who Pallavi's Raghav is. Yes, there are still things about him that Esha uses to her advantage but that's because Raghav's mind nowadays is preoccupied with his guilt and this idiot can't think straight when he's in trouble. However, she would never be able to fathom why he does or doesn't do something that the old Raghav would've done. I'd like to believe that'll be one of the reasons behind her downfall.

Ru, this is so true re. I do think Raghav would never be half the person he is if he lived with Esha. Raghav and Pallavi have always brought out the best in each other and that is the reason they shine together.

Yes it's true that when Raghav stops behaving like Raghu but behaves like P ka husband Raghav, she won't be able to handle him. That beast only P can tame.

Originally posted by: masin

I am SO EXCITED to be a part of the discussion at the same time as all of you! It's the first time I'm talking Raghvi with you Masin. I'm so glad

Ruby, agree with everything you said so I won't bother quoting the post.

Mereko samajh aagaya hai Sikku ka angle!

Basically, Pallavi is being heavily white-washed now. The constant dialogue about "tum itni achi ho, itna bada dil" waghera waghera goes to show that they're trying to undo all the gaaliyan she got during the Mandaar track. Zahir hai, Sitara pe female lead can do no wrong, so in an effort to white-wash Pallavi, Raghav is being shown as an insensitive cheater. Khair, dafa karo. My theory remains that Raghav is being framed par woh dou chaar hafton mein pata chalega. Pals was always like this. Overly trusting in the goodness of people and forever forgiving

LOVED how maa beti bajaoed Esha! Bohat achi tarha sunaya dono ne and Keerti's slap was outstanding! I think Amma will remain firm and I'm hoping her next order of business is to bajao Raghav and tell him to focus on his marriage, his family, and his work, not the welfare case his wife has brought home.

I also think Amma can take a more severe stance here and say mere ghar mein yeh ladki nahi rahegi. Pallavi might cry ke yeh mera bhi ghar hai and all, but if Amma stands her ground, then I don't see Esha staying more than a minute in RR mansion. Koi bhi saas yeh bakwaasiyat bardasht nahi karegi.That being said, koi bhi biwi yeh harkat nahi karegi. I'm not bashing Pallavi at all, but I do think it's rather ridiculous to open your arms and your doors to your husband's ex. No matter what the situation is - get her a hotel room, an AirBNB, accomodate her anywhere else you can on your dime, but not in your own home! Yeah I hope Amma takes some action. She's a sane person in the house clearly.

The double-edged sword here is that Sunny also got a place in this house without anyone's approval and I find it amusing that Amma is suddenly on Keerti's side and is worrying with her about Raghav's ex jab ke Sunny abhi bhi unhe pasand nahi hai. Bechari Amma. Dono bachon ki first choice bilkul bekaar nikli.

Raghav's senti dialogue pushed me to tears! Same same Love it when he introduces Telugu in his emotional scenes. Again, I don't exactly know what steps he can take to rectify his apparent mistake, but I hope he takes some action soon. Chahe sach bole, chahe kisi ka munh tode, kuch na kuch toh kare, bore hogayi hoon uski inaction se. His sarcasm hardly surfaces aaj kal and his sadness is adding to my sadness. I'm currently on episode 97 in my rewatching spree and I really miss that Raghav! (For reference, that's when Bada Bindi was exposed for the necklace theft)

Precap was HILARIOUS! Aap kaun behenji?! Aapka college wala Raghu tha, aur jab kisi cheez ke aage tha lag jaata hai toh uska value khatam hojata hai. Ardhamainda? Raghav pls tell this to delulu ladki

Yaar if nothing else, koi iss bechari ko acting hi sikha dou. My heart does not go out for her at all. I see what she means that she's not the only culprit here (if by any small chance Raghav was not framed) but I can't seem to sympathize with her. Wasn't she some rich hotshot? How has she not put her ex-husband behind bars yet? I took her as somewhat of a female version of RR when she was initially introduced, but yeh toh Vitamin D se bhi badi phuski bomb nikli!

Esha is a creep who is trapping R. She's using tactics of emotional manipulation to get her work done. Aise bahut logon ko dekha hai maine so I can read thru her becharapan