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Originally posted by: PPak

Happy Camper ji - the question you raised is a very valid point - what is the breaking point for Imlie?

The answer is not Adi Imlie divine love and understanding causing no breaking point ever. It's a case of belief in SM. Story shows Imlie to be a super woman - who can bear overcome and forgive everything. She is simply above the normal human. She can put up with any amount of hurt and pain and extend empathy to the vilest of people. Can she really tho? She has legit had a few almost breaking points and has not stayed back for Adi.

Let's see Imlie's response pattern.

Point #1

Imlie knew from the start that Janmasthami was rape or Adi is lying and it was consensual as Malini says it was. Let's go with rape and give Adi the benefit of doubt - since he says he loves Imlie and cannot even think of this.

Adi under drugs and under influence thinks of Malini as Imlie - Adi has betrayed Imlie & Imlie ready to leave Adi

Adi under drugs and with Malini in Imlie's saree - Imlie forgives Adi and stays as he was duped by Malini because of saree.

So here the 'saree' is the breaking point. Just drugs was not ok - but the added deception of saree was enough for Imlie to give Adi the clean chit. It's not like their love stops her from leaving...it's SM showing her the saree in time.

Now that we have established that Imlie will leave Adi - just needs the right level of justification. Point #1 breakpoint averted with saree. I just cannot understand this - was she looking for an excuse not to leave here?

Point #2

Imlie finding the camera that confirms what SM had her believe all along. Now she has proof. And then Adi deleting proof of his innocence for his rape baby

Imlie was considering leaving. This is the lowest blow Adi has dealt her as it was intentional and indicates a basic distrust of Imlie when Malini is in the picture and a clear prioritization of a baby born out of non consensual behavior over Imlie and her life.

Again this was a breaking point for her until Adi tells her she can have the dubious authority of decision making regarding Malini and Imlie realizes SM still gave her proof for a reason regardless of brainless Adi. The fact that she knew the truth and her convictions were right - made her move past her breakpoint of Adi's distrust in her. And she was waiting to decide on next steps without making impulse decisions.

Point #2 - breakpoint till Imlie realizes she was given proof and conviction regarding Malini's deception by SM for a reason.

Point #3

Adi failing to keep his promise of picking her up at school - exposing her to a dangerous situation and Imlie comes home to find him tied up literally with Malini.

Imlie questions her place in Adi's life and this may have been a breaking point until Aparna asks her to think of how her relationship with baby would be and not what it is with Adi.

So point #3 - breaking point diverted because of sudden flow of affection for the baby as chotti maa and thinking that SM may have placed her there to protect Adi didi baby selflessly against her own biological mom's lack of care in baby. Again not Adi motivated by SM motivated.

All in all - it's not her convictions or strength of Adilie love that has kept Imlie in T house.

It's either that she really wants Adi at any cost - even her self respect and will find any justification to stay in spite of Adi's constant and continued distrust of her and belief that Imlie lies blatantly to get her point across (Imlie does tell Adi that Malini herself has confessed her intent to Imlie many times and it is not a theory - so Adi disbelieving Imlie means he thinks Imlie is lying to convince Adi of Malini's intent - YUCK) or

her faith and devotion to SM that makes her want to give it her all regardless of any insult or injury to her - not Adi at all.

I think it is the latter - definitely not the love and understanding between the both of them. Imlie is staying in spite of the distrust Adi has in her to uphold SM's marzi that Imlie believes Adilie marriage and finds different ways to justify SM's wishes.

Let's hope SM upholds Imlie's trust unlike Adi and his tall claims. Breaking point for Imlie is therefore only if she realizes she misunderstood SM's ishaara and that Adi was meant for Malini after all. (BTW this is why I lenjoy MaryBarton's fanfiction so much - she keeps the same SM first bakht Imlie - but one who takes the alternative of leaving Adi and keeps her self respect and marriage still intact.

The question I grapple with is when SM allowed Malini to rape and get pregnant with Adi's child - why Imlie still thinks Adilie is SM's wishes. Is she thinking SM wants a threesome in T house? Is she even thinking about the chottu's (that SM allowed to create) future when it wants a mom and dad unit and not a flawed setup with 2 mom's who distrust eo and a dad who loves chottu's aunt but trusts chottu's mom? What kind of psychological damage this will have on chottu? Has she thought about the other times Malini may drug Adi again in T house to get her haq? Will she forgive Adi each time he sleeps with Malini thinking it was Imlie, esp as he still does not believe MAlini culd do something like this intentionally...next time Malini would have used Imlie's perfume or sandals etc to make Adi believe it was Imlie - it's not easy to fool Adi after all.

This shows runs because story's logic is flawed and inconsistent and viewers are all trying to find where the 'kicker' is and the memory of the first 150 episodes still keeps everyone hoping that there may be some sense to this after all eventually. Whereas makers are dragging the carrot of resolution along longer. If the CVs can pull all this together comprehensively - I'll eat my words happily.

PPak you so beautifully explained what I feel🤗 I have always said that your opinions gels very nearly to mine🤗

I actually feel the breaking point definitely will be the one when she feels that whatever signal she was thinking that Sita maa is giving her has been misunderstood by her and Malini and male lead were meant to be together👍🏼

I also agree that she herself Is trying to find different excuses to stay with male lead when he has eventually shown her multiple times that whenever it will come to him for choice of choosing in between her and Malini he will chose malini .

Plus when she says that she loves choti/chotu she should have moved out of the relationship considering the future consequences of threesome on the babay and not that it will be happily ever after.

Even him breaking her trust multiple times still sticking around with him is a big nay nay.

Originally posted by: PPak

I see what you are saying and get your point...only Adi is still not considering himself innocent right? SM has not protected him yet even in that regard? Even with the camera proof - he chooses to believe that Malini was also drugged and they together both made a mistake - while he thought it was Imlie. Only Imlie knows the truth and therefore SM has given her the relief of the truth. So SM has come through in limited fashion for Imlie. I really hope they also come clear that nothing happened that night. They have to WW Malini at some point and cannot have her rape Adi and then WW her. Till a proven Adi didi baby is established - I'm going to remain with belief that nothing happened - so I can somewhat continue watching for Sumeer :)

I will again reiterate,I feel there won't be an PF and babay is real.

If even 1 % they go for WW they can only do it by showing that Malini loses her mental balance then only her deeds can be justified because it not only restricted from smaller choris but to bigger crimes like rape, trafficking and self harming including harm to the babay.

I still standby the theory of miscarriage as it will make male lead more inclined towards Malini and breaking the trust of Imlie some more that will year her more .

I think the breaking point of Imlie will be if she has to share any of the close related pious thing that for her are only her right i.e her Sita ma ka ashirwad I e Sindoor.

That's why I feel even if he does these things like aarti and all with malini she will be definitely hurt and can taunt male lead multiple times about the same but won't leave,I feel her trust is broken now it's time for her heart to be broken as if male lead starts doing chup chup k or in front of everyone the rituals with malini due to any of the reason it will be again cheating.

Originally posted by: FlowerHater

Here she is ready for Threesome🤣

Hero banne ke liye it doesn't need to be physical saving😆 every time.

My problem is with not trusting Imlie and not talking to Imlie after deleting vdo privately than revealing to her surrounded by a crowd. It is his private vdo he has the right to delete . But when they decided to show it as a proof he should have informed her.

Originally posted by: FlowerHater

I will again reiterate,I feel there won't be an PF and babay is real.

If even 1 % they go for WW they can only do it by showing that Malini loses her mental balance then only her deeds can be justified because it not only restricted from smaller choris but to bigger crimes like rape, trafficking and self harming including harm to the babay.

I still standby the theory of miscarriage as it will make male lead more inclined towards Malini and breaking the trust of Imlie some more that will year her more .

I think the breaking point of Imlie will be if she has to share any of the close related pious thing that for her are only her right i.e her Sita ma ka ashirwad I e Sindoor.

That's why I feel even if he does these things like aarti and all with malini she will be definitely hurt and can taunt male lead multiple times about the same but won't leave,I feel her trust is broken now it's time for her heart to be broken as if male lead starts doing chup chup k or in front of everyone the rituals with malini due to any of the reason it will be again cheating.

We both see things the same wrt Imlie - i've always said that as well. And we are not blind or forgiving of Adi's faults. But you are very harsh with Adi. He is stupid, blind, impulsive, wary and self serving- yes...but is good at heart and tries to do the right thing and does love Imlie in his own selfish way.

Are you sure you are not a closet Adi fan? The lady does protest too much on his actions 😊

I don't think Adi will ever willingly do aarthi with Malini or allow her to wear Sindoor and mangalsutra. He is weak wrt Malini but very selfish when it comes to what he wants. He will not allow Malini these things because he will worry that it may take Imlie away from him. For him - its clear #1 Baby #2 Imlie.

So unless Malini twists Adi with chottu's name and causing him/her harm - he will not allow Malini any of her rights to him.

Malini can force him to do this - but that will mean showing her hand and true intent and cause Adi's eyes to open to who she really is.

I am on 2 minds on what Adi will do if Imlie is accused of a miscarriage. If by now both he and T family have not understood Imlie I dont think any redemption will have any impact. I am more inclined to belive based on what I'm seeing in the show that Adi and T redemption will be in their belief of Imlie over Malini over a possible miscarriage.

Originally posted by: PPak

We both see things the same wrt Imlie - i've always said that as well. And we are not blind or forgiving of Adi's faults. But you are very harsh with Adi. He is stupid, blind, impulsive, wary and self serving- yes...but is good at heart and tries to do the right thing and does love Imlie in his own selfish way.

Are you sure you are not a closet Adi fan? The lady does protest too much on his actions 😊

I don't think Adi will ever willingly do aarthi with Malini or allow her to wear Sindoor and mangalsutra. He is weak wrt Malini but very selfish when it comes to what he wants. He will not allow Malini these things because he will worry that it may take Imlie away from him. For him - its clear #1 Baby #2 Imlie.

So unless Malini twists Adi with chottu's name and causing him/her harm - he will not allow Malini any of her rights to him.

Malini can force him to do this - but that will mean showing her hand and true intent and cause Adi's eyes to open to who she really is.

I am on 2 minds on what Adi will do if Imlie is accused of a miscarriage. If by now both he and T family have not understood Imlie I dont think any redemption will have any impact. I am more inclined to belive based on what I'm seeing in the show that Adi and T redemption will be in their belief of Imlie over Malini over a possible miscarriage.

@bold ye kaafi janta ki shikayat hai😆

@bold I hope your beliefs remain intact🤗

@bold italics she has been doing it since quite some time now but he is not seeing it,and he won't see it aage bhi

Originally posted by: PPak

Happy Camper ji - the question you raised is a very valid point - what is the breaking point for Imlie?

The answer is not Adi Imlie divine love and understanding causing no breaking point ever. It's a case of belief in SM. Story shows Imlie to be a super woman - who can bear overcome and forgive everything. She is simply above the normal human. She can put up with any amount of hurt and pain and extend empathy to the vilest of people. Can she really tho? She has legit had a few almost breaking points and has not stayed back for Adi.

Let's see Imlie's response pattern.

Point #1

Imlie knew from the start that Janmasthami was rape or Adi is lying and it was consensual as Malini says it was. Let's go with rape and give Adi the benefit of doubt - since he says he loves Imlie and cannot even think of this.

Adi under drugs and under influence thinks of Malini as Imlie - Adi has betrayed Imlie & Imlie ready to leave Adi

Adi under drugs and with Malini in Imlie's saree - Imlie forgives Adi and stays as he was duped by Malini because of saree.

So here the 'saree' is the breaking point. Just drugs was not ok - but the added deception of saree was enough for Imlie to give Adi the clean chit. It's not like their love stops her from leaving...it's SM showing her the saree in time.

Now that we have established that Imlie will leave Adi - just needs the right level of justification. Point #1 breakpoint averted with saree. I just cannot understand this - was she looking for an excuse not to leave here?

Point #2

Imlie finding the camera that confirms what SM had her believe all along. Now she has proof. And then Adi deleting proof of his innocence for his rape baby

Imlie was considering leaving. This is the lowest blow Adi has dealt her as it was intentional and indicates a basic distrust of Imlie when Malini is in the picture and a clear prioritization of a baby born out of non consensual behavior over Imlie and her life.

Again this was a breaking point for her until Adi tells her she can have the dubious authority of decision making regarding Malini and Imlie realizes SM still gave her proof for a reason regardless of brainless Adi. The fact that she knew the truth and her convictions were right - made her move past her breakpoint of Adi's distrust in her. And she was waiting to decide on next steps without making impulse decisions.

Point #2 - breakpoint till Imlie realizes she was given proof and conviction regarding Malini's deception by SM for a reason.

Point #3

Adi failing to keep his promise of picking her up at school - exposing her to a dangerous situation and Imlie comes home to find him tied up literally with Malini.

Imlie questions her place in Adi's life and this may have been a breaking point until Aparna asks her to think of how her relationship with baby would be and not what it is with Adi.

So point #3 - breaking point diverted because of sudden flow of affection for the baby as chotti maa and thinking that SM may have placed her there to protect Adi didi baby selflessly against chottu's own biological mom's lack of care in baby. Again not Adi motivated but SM motivated and for general good.

All in all - it's not her convictions or strength of Adilie love that has kept Imlie in T house.

It's either that she really wants Adi at any cost - even her self respect and will find any justification to stay in spite of Adi's constant and continued distrust of her and belief that Imlie lies blatantly to get her point across (Imlie does tell Adi that Malini herself has confessed her intent to Imlie many times and it is not a theory - so Adi disbelieving Imlie means he thinks Imlie is lying to convince Adi of Malini's intent - YUCK) or

her faith and devotion to SM that makes her want to give it her all regardless of any insult or injury to her - not Adi at all.

I think it is the latter - definitely not the love and understanding between Adilie. Imlie is staying in spite of her pain, the almost intolerable situation Adi has created by brining Malini to T house and refusing to see M's true colors, and the unceasing distrust Adi has in her; only to uphold SM's marzi in Adilie marriage and finds different ways to justify SM's wishes.

Let's hope SM upholds Imlie's trust unlike Adi and his tall claims. Breaking point for Imlie is therefore only if she realizes she has misunderstood SM's ishaara and that Adi was meant for Malini after all. (BTW this is why I l enjoy MaryBarton's fanfiction so much - she keeps the same SM first bakht Imlie - but one who takes the alternative of leaving Adi and keeps her self respect and marriage still intact.)

The question I grapple with is when SM allowed Malini to rape and get pregnant with Adi's child - why Imlie still thinks Adilie is SM's wishes? Is she thinking SM wants a threesome in T house? Is she even thinking about the chottu's (that SM allowed to create) future when it wants a mom and dad unit and not a flawed setup with 2 mom's who distrust eo and a dad who loves chottu's aunt but trusts chottu's mom? What kind of psychological damage this will have on chottu? Has she thought about the other times Malini may drug Adi again in T house to get her haq? Will Imlie forgive Adi each time he sleeps with Malini thinking it was Imlie, especially as he still does not believe Malini can do something like this intentionally...next time Malini will use Imlie's perfume or sandals etc to make Adi believe it was Imlie he is sleeping with - it's easy to fool Adi after all.

This shows runs because story's logic is flawed and inconsistent and viewers are all trying to find where the 'kicker' is and the memory of the first 150 episodes still keeps everyone hoping that there may be some sense to this after all eventually. Whereas makers are dragging the carrot of resolution along longer. If the CVs can pull all this together comprehensively - I'll eat my words happily.

Ppak , such a great analysis ! Damn interesting to read every take of why she is still holding onto the relationship . It just because of SM. But why did she leave by just believing anu's words about Adini honeymoon ? Is is not because of break of her trust by Adi ? But that was done and I'm totally okay with it considering as some misunderstanding between them . But now I'm unable to make any sense from the lead characters. They were behaving differently every day after the other , also getting confused to make a point because of their disjointed dialogues🤣. Malini's(negative) character and her cheap toxic games is the only one right now Makers kept intact .That's my conclusion of this track 😆

@green bold 1: This is what exactly I feel and I thought that this is the breaking point for her. Story just going round and round where Imlie unable to leave her husband , trying to become choti maa as well 😒, Malini unable to leave Adi and when it comes to Adi , he can simply put an end to this cringe drama , but instead he is made to sit and watch the drama between them. I know many may claim he is still in trauma or he looks one-sided , but as per the story as he is in a state to destroy proof against Malini for the sake of his baby , he is going to be a father , still can't he do the justice to these women ?(be it either Imlie or Malini , doesn't matter. But he should take some step of sending Imlie away from him for her future or either divorce Malini. ) But , now , its just looking like a bigamy and 2 women okay with it. Oh God , really this cheap never ending fight between 2 ladies is becoming terrible to watch with Imlie throwing threesome dialogues !🤢

Adi feels secure in the relationship with Imlie when she is around and that's what made me to think about her breaking point to end the relationship. I guess it is only then , Makers allow him to do some action.

Also I wanted to make other point here that either way if Imlie leaving due to humiliation (honor will be done by none other than adi due to some drama by Malini) or by her NDE if Adi believes Imlie about Malini , it's just makes him look like a selfish lover because love is something which is selfless (taken/given) , trust and mutual respect between individuals keeping above all others (including so called 7 yr gehri dosti ). If Imlie , his so called wife is his only love of his life , then atleast after all this happening to him , atleast he should believe her (which is not happening here to drag the drama ) which is making me dislike his character more in this track.

@green bold 2: This is what exactly happening in the story in the current track and where I was unable to see any beyond connection and blahblah of Adilie at present. It's just looking like pathetic toxic connection between them in the current track and Makers are throwing some moments of Adilie in between for viewers to keep us hooked to the cringe fest.

Yes , MaryBarton's story is what is enjoyed more as she kept the characters core intact and made her fiction and I really admire her skill for that. I'm still enjoying her story , hehe😆

Bumping up no new thread

Originally posted by: wizardofoz2

Bumping up no new thread

AdiLie did Arthi together😆

Otherwise nothing happened. Didn't find anything good . Other than imlie humari patni hai once again😆 And adi asked Malini to close the mouth indirectly😆

First sameto all the raitas Philaoed over 300 episodes give it a logical ending Lol😡 then start another one.