Raghav hits new low everyday - Page 5

Originally posted by: Anu1975

He believes he Did…he did not fully pass out..he was in a semi conscious state to initiate and accept…he even remembered imagining Pallavi in Esha’s place next morning..there is no reason not to believe him unless they come up with something specific in future to negate it…but that’s hypothetical…as it stands it’s implied and accepted by both the individuals that they did indulge in intimacy..I don’t find any reason why Pallavi should not believe him..

Isn’t it not ironical that we except her to not to trust his confession on intimacy part but want her to fully trust his intent…

It hurts me that people expect her to be some kind of a super human being just to deny her basic rights and justice…not fair..

I rest my case here..

I think you’re feeling that people are always expecting for Pallavi to sympathize with raghav

No one here is saying that

We’re saying, technically raghav was so drunk that he did not realize it was Esha in Pallavi’s place

In fact Esha was technically the one that should’ve backed off but she is shameful and continued

where raghav is wrong is hiding the truth from Pallavi, and now distancing her

As a wife, it’s going to be hard for her to process that her husband slept with another women in his drunken state, but the bigger issue here is that he is hiding it

no ones asking Pallavi to sympathize or that women need to be more empathetic to men

but she MIGHT be if raghav was actually taken advantage of by Esha which we don’t know yet

however she will still lose her trust on him because he lied to her

he’s wrong for lying and IMO he’s not completely wrong for the mishap that happened, I wish he didn’t drink but I don’t hold it against him

Originally posted by: DivyaaaV

I think you’re feeling that people are always expecting for Pallavi to sympathize with raghav

No one here is saying that

We’re saying, technically raghav was so drunk that he did not realize it was Esha in Pallavi’s place

In fact Esha was technically the one that should’ve backed off but she is shameful and continued

where raghav is wrong is hiding the truth from Pallavi, and now distancing her

As a wife, it’s going to be hard for her to process that her husband slept with another women in his drunken state, but the bigger issue here is that he is hiding it

no ones asking Pallavi to sympathize or that women need to be more empathetic to men

but she MIGHT be if raghav was actually taken advantage of by Esha which we don’t know yet

however she will still lose her trust on him because he lied to her

he’s wrong for lying and IMO he’s not completely wrong for the mishap that happened, I wish he didn’t drink but I don’t hold it against him

Thanks for explaining this. Clearly you did a much better job than I do at articulating it.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Raghav is still mostly like how he was since day 1. Nothing he's doing is inconsistent with his character. In fact, if he'd behaved differently, then I would have found that to be out of character.

You wish the writers remember all this but your saying that he’s the worst husband and life partner any woman can ask for. What was Mandaar, then? If he hadn't 'died', what kind of life would Pallavi have had? Mandaar's entire identity in front of her was fake and he had lied and cheated her from the beginning, murdered her friend and tried to murder his mother, twice.

What Pallavi has done for Raghav is out in the open, it's visible, tangible, but what he has done for her is mostly intangible and often under the surface, subtle, so people don't pick up on it.

She didn't stand up for herself with the Ds but he gave her the wings she needed to fly, the very wings that I guess many people want her to use to fly away from this nest with Raghav. Fine.

As for Raghav being a good husband we Always praised him for what he’s and yes with him Pallavi got the wings to fly but it is also true that Pallavis life went though a lot of trouble for this same person only. Mandar is her own problem and yes she went bit too far with her kartabya and responsibilities but then she’s always like this to the Deshmukhs . More than Mandar she felt obligated to her ma Baba and that’s why she did all the blunders but then Raghav also aided to it by hiding Mandars true face from her since the beginning . Again he’s doing same thing . Hiding facts from her and putting her in harms way .Hiding facts almost took her life few days ago and he’s still doing it consistently without fearing for anything . Would you also call that right ?

Let’s not even go into the keerti Sunny marriage fiasco . Diamond smuggling fiasco etc let’s talk about the Situation here now in this track .
Think of it from a 3rd persons POV

Pallavi had no idea about a girlfriend but when she comes Ragahv didn’t even bother to tell her about the same

Ragahv gets irritated acts erratic and disturbed but still keeps mum about it

She gets worried seeing him like this and then gets to know from the other woman about her being Ragahvs ex and also heard commmets like Ragahvs still behaving like this bcoz he’s most likely not over her

She comes home to a broken Ragahv who she had to confront to know the truth and she had to console a broken husband and understood his feelings forgetting hers

Her phone gets exchanged and her sends texts to her husband about loving him but when she asks him about it he not only hid the truth from her he actually blasted her and shut her out and left without meeting her

The entire hotel fiasco happened and not once he was shown trying to contact his home or Pallavis number knowing they could be worried about him gone missing

He forgot all about Pallavi except for mentioning her once and that’s about it . Same thing confirmed by RRs alter ego later in the show

He again hides thing and behaving rudely with her bcoz he’s unable to control his guilt

His behavior is pretty well with Easha who actually he didn’t force or anything and he knows well that Easha was trying to flirt with him b4 the incident but still he’s behavior ia unbelievably cool and composed with her

Keerti talked about Boyfriends and suicides and the only thing that came into his mind was Easha and he rushes there in her aid . So he definitely considers himself as her Bf right ?

Rests we get to watch today and God knows for how long .
so yes definitely he’s dishonest , lying and cheating husband as per his actions right now. It wasn’t cheating per se till yesterday but yes the emotional cheating part was there and I stil feel that way . But still we understood how he was taken for a ride in his unconscious state but now him hiding facts and hurting her in the process is equally bad if not worst . So what did I say wrong here 😊👍

Originally posted by: inlieu

If I were in Pallavi's place and I found out about that night, I would ask Raghav exactly what happened and trust that he wouldn't betray me. Then I would wipe the floor with Esha and send her to jail for taking advantage of my husband. I would be hurt that he didn't feel that he could share things with me but I would also try to understand why.

Originally posted by: Trina2021

How could she send her to jail unless her husband feels same way . He’s feeling he slept with her and being sympathetic towards her . Pallavi cannot send her to jail unless she knows about the incident and that too unless Raghavs admits that he’s was taken advantage of .

So by talking to Raghav she might be able to see the situation from a different angle than he does, just like she did during the accident track when they were both in jail and she realized it wasn't Keerti but Sunny who was the main culprit. Raghav wasn't able to see it but she did because she had a different perspective. She then laid the trap for Sunny and sent him to jail.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Don't expect them to acknowledge the violation. If they didn't acknowledge keerti scandal and Pallavi drugged, this won't even strike them.

Pls take rest. I can totally understand. I fought for Pallavi in the sari pleat episode and I know how difficult it is to defend their actions.

He will fix his mistakes coz that's Raghav. He's a sincere person who will repent. Hope he is able to learn from his mistakes and never repeat them. I'm waiting to see his growth.

That he was violated for Pallavi to fight for him . He didn’t think that even for a minute instead he’s shown to be guilty or Pallavi and concerned for Easha . Now Easha made her demand loud and clear as per the Precap . She wants him in her life and he rejected but then if she does things to herself and keeps calling him he has to run there to save a life that’s also understandable but to what extent ? If he keeps doing that then forget Pallavi even he court of law wouldn’t be able to give him justice. Now we have to see how far he goes to care for his ex who also made it clear that she wants to be with him but in general any man who commits such mistake would avoid the person he committed the mistake with like anything but Raghav is doing the opposite . On call call it compassion but then wheres his compassion for his wife who's kep t in he dark about it ? If Easha did some good deed to save his life from Harms way which is making him feeling grateful for her didnt Pallavi do anything for him and even more for him to deserve to know the truth atleast ? Sorry can’t agree but you’re entitled to your opinion for sure and I respect that 👍

Originally posted by: Trina2021

Yes Raghav did many things for Palavi . She would’ve been a slave @dehsmukhs of Raghav hadnt come into her life . I get all that .Mandar is a psycho husband and Pallavis life could’ve been hell if he wasn’t hit by that me car that day that also I agree . Ofcourse that’s the only truth here but here I’m not considering Mandar as her husband also bcoz she barley got married to him , didn’t even spend a day with him even . So let’s not go there

As for Raghav being a good husband we Always praised him for what he’s and yes with him Pallavi got the wings to fly but it is also true that Pallavis life went though a lot of trouble for this same person only. Mandar is her own problem and yes she went bit too far with her kartabya and responsibilities but then she’s always like this to the Deshmukhs . More than Mandar she felt obligated to her ma Baba and that’s why she did all the blunders but then Raghav also aided to it by hiding Mandars true face from her since the beginning . Again he’s doing same thing . Hiding facts from her and putting her in harms way .Hiding facts almost took her life few days ago and he’s still doing it consistently without fearing for anything . Would you also call that right ?

Let’s not even go into the keerti Sunny marriage fiasco . Diamond smuggling fiasco etc let’s talk about the Situation here now in this track .
Think of it from a 3rd persons POV

Pallavi had no idea about a girlfriend but when she comes Ragahv didn’t even bother to tell her about the same

Ragahv gets irritated acts erratic and disturbed but still keeps mum about it

She gets worried seeing him like this and then gets to know from the other woman about her being Ragahvs ex and also heard commmets like Ragahvs still behaving like this bcoz he’s most likely not over her

She comes home to a broken Ragahv who she had to confront to know the truth and she had to console a broken husband and understood his feelings forgetting hers

Her phone gets exchanged and her sends texts to her husband about loving him but when she asks him about it he not only hid the truth from her he actually blasted her and shut her out and left without meeting her

The entire hotel fiasco happened and not once he was shown trying to contact his home or Pallavis number knowing they could be worried about him gone missing

He forgot all about Pallavi except for mentioning her once and that’s about it . Same thing confirmed by RRs alter ego later in the show

He again hides thing and behaving rudely with her bcoz he’s unable to control his guilt

His behavior is pretty well with Easha who actually he didn’t force or anything and he knows well that Easha was trying to flirt with him b4 the incident but still he’s behavior ia unbelievably cool and composed with her

Keerti talked about Boyfriends and suicides and the only thing that came into his mind was Easha and he rushes there in her aid . So he definitely considers himself as her Bf right ?

Rests we get to watch today and God knows for how long .
so yes definitely he’s dishonest , lying and cheating husband as per his actions right now. It wasn’t cheating per se till yesterday but yes the emotional cheating part was there and I stil feel that way . But still we understood how he was taken for a ride in his unconscious state but now him hiding facts and hurting her in the process is equally bad if not worst . So what did I say wrong here 😊👍

Him hiding the truth from her about that night is not acceptable. No matter how hard it is for him to talk to her about it, he must. Even if it's clearly proven later that he did nothing and Esha trapped him, he should still talk to Pallavi about it. Regarding not contacting Pallavi, well the network was shut down by law enforcement and he chose to take shelter till things got better. What about when Pallavi was out with Mandaar, seeing Dr. Ramya and going out of town for that visit? Raghav looked for her everywhere and was worried, especially knowing that Mandaar was fishy. Did we accuse Pallavi for not calling Raghav back during the day or for checking her phone? No, at most she was being unmindful but she didn't deliberate ignore Raghav or 'forget' about him.

I don't understand this concept of thinking or talking about your spouse in every living moment as proof that you love them and are loyal to them. That's not how it works. She's in his heart and will always be, and that's what's important.

Anyway, I feel like we're going round in circles so I'm going to stop trying to explain. I understand you have your own perspective and I respect that.

Originally posted by: inlieu

If I were in Pallavi's place and I found out about that night, I would ask Raghav exactly what happened and trust that he wouldn't betray me. Then I would wipe the floor with Esha and send her to jail for taking advantage of my husband. I would be hurt that he didn't feel that he could share things with me but I would also try to understand why.

Are you serious?

Even if Raghav was violated and he didn't voluntarily sleep with Esha, he had already, voluntarily crossed his marital boundaries in all his senses. He emotionally cheated on Pallavi when he looked deep into the eyes of his ex, ordered her favorite food, reminisced their memories, decided to share a room with her, told her he was not uncomfortable if she still loved him, repeatedly drank with her and made her realize that he remembers every detail about her. What more confirmation did Esha need about his feelings towards her? No woman would trust a man who voluntarily agreed to spend the night in the same room as his ex.

Originally posted by: ...Doctor...

Are you serious?

Even if Raghav was violated and he didn't voluntarily sleep with Esha, he had already, voluntarily crossed his marital boundaries in all his senses. He emotionally cheated on Pallavi when he looked deep into the eyes of his ex, ordered her favorite food, reminisced their memories, decided to share a room with her, told her he was not uncomfortable if she still loved him, repeatedly drank with her and made her realize that he remembers every detail about her. What more confirmation did Esha need about his feelings towards her? No woman would trust a man who voluntarily agreed to spend the night in the same room as his ex.

We saw the detailed events as the audience but Pallavi saw none of that. So when she learns about it I want her to ask Raghav for details. /

Originally posted by: Trina2021

First and foremost it’s extremely difficult to prove such a case in yeh court of law . Next to impossible . Now let’s say they want to prove it for that Pallavi has to know what happened exactly and that too from her own husband right . She can’t get a dream about it and March for justice on her own . Also Raghav has to feel

That he was violated for Pallavi to fight for him . He didn’t think that even for a minute instead he’s shown to be guilty or Pallavi and concerned for Easha . Now Easha made her demand loud and clear as per the Precap . She wants him in her life and he rejected but then if she does things to herself and keeps calling him he has to run there to save a life that’s also understandable but to what extent ? If he keeps doing that then forget Pallavi even he court of law wouldn’t be able to give him justice. Now we have to see how far he goes to care for his ex who also made it clear that she wants to be with him but in general any man who commits such mistake would avoid the person he committed the mistake with like anything but Raghav is doing the opposite . On call call it compassion but then wheres his compassion for his wife who's kep t in he dark about it ? If Easha did some good deed to save his life from Harms way which is making him feeling grateful for her didnt Pallavi do anything for him and even more for him to deserve to know the truth atleast ? Sorry can’t agree but you’re entitled to your opinion for sure and I respect that 👍

I was triggered after seeing the precap as well and more than anything I'm worried about the emotional manipulation Esha will do to Raghav. One more reason why I want Pallavi to know the truth. Once she's in the clear, the chances of Raghav being manipulated by esha or Sunny are zero. Truth really liberates.

As far as going to save esha is concerned, is he ready to take blame for another death on his head? He's stuck between a hard place and I try to understand him. Again, I would like to see the episode tomorrow to judge his actions. I'm not a blind defender and I will call him out if he's doing anything wrong.

Also, word on proving a violation. Actually it's a he said she said situation as consent can't be proven to exist or not. Raghav was completely sloshed and woke up next to esha in a well orchestrated sequence of events. He naturally assumed he's done the worst. He's a total nautanki and always thinks extremes. Didn't he think he would have to sell everything and go to gaav after he stopped his illegal business?