Erica quitting?? What about Shaheer? - Page 11

Originally posted by: Rashi23

Yeah buddy that's what I'm saying that yrhpk and it's actors were recognised by ppl because shaheer was part of it. It got hype because shaheer was the ml, same with the case of Harshad and guarav. These actors help show and costars to get online hype but storyline achi hogi toh hi show hit hoga. Like yrhpk had horrible storyline after lockdown and it's timing had changed so it's trps were affected and they shut it. Likewise if yrkkh doesn't get desired rating they will shut it doubt it would happen but online buzz mil gaya new generation ko.

But am saying Anupama already had hype. The only show offline audience mention is Anupama. The show had 4 plus TRP even before Gaurav entered the show. Any actor who enters Anupama in this show is lucky. Not the other way round. And Gaurav may have added to the show's hype online but that's really not a big deal. Anupama is still a huge huge success with or without Gaurav. That's my point. Even with YRHPK, it might have got initial traction because of Shaheer but it worked because of the story and the entire cast. Rupal Patel is pretty well known offline because of Saathiya and even the love story clicked. It's unfair to everyone else's hardwork to credit just one person.

Originally posted by: TragedyQueen_19

A show's success ultimately boils down to TRP. Only an actor's success sorta depends on the online fanbase because awards and stuff (but even that's rigged lmao). What bugged me is crediting Rhea's success to Shaheer & his fans - she must've done something eye catching too, right? Itna toh Shaheer bhi nahi itraata hoga apne fame ke baare mein😆

SP strategically placed YHC so that it garners more TRP than it achieved. My friends say EK doesn't even give a shit about that show. So EK also doesn't get the credit😆 It's all about story & how pleasing the actors are...

Beyhadh franchise is huge on social media, it has enormous buzz. Did BH2 get enough TRP to keep Sony convinced to let it run post covid break? No, not even the online hype could save it. (I'm still salty about that lol, but who cares about online fans?)

Basically the success of a show does not depend on the actor & fans toh ban hi jaate hai if you do your job well enough.

Oh God so maine kab kahan that a popular actor will get the show trps. But producers still cast actors based on their followers do you agree to this or not?

I just said that rhea got popular online because she worked with Shaheer. Now if she comes with another show then it might get online hype because she has an active fan base but trps would solely depend on the storyline. Her previous had trps but nor she neither her jodi had the craze which mishbir had.

Yeah, I know ekta doesn't care about yhc , anyways except for this show all the shows are not performing well.

Bas ab same baat main aur repeat nahi kar sakti, I hope you understand that I was solely taking about online buzz and not trps that a popular actors brings.

Originally posted by: Rashi23

Saw this on twitter, this thing would have happened if shaheer would have left the show.

Arey when he was working simultaneously on both the shows then too people had problem and now if he is staying then too ppl have problem.

Not only Erica's character graph is going downwards even dev's character is shown as dumb inspite of being ceo and 40+. Atleast sonakshi is speaking up, trying to keep Sanjana away be there for her kids but dev usko toh ek idiot dumb ke tarah dikha rahe hai. Is this the same s1 wala dev no he knows it but still he is doing the show because there are many actors for whom the show comes first.

Erica got sympathy, online hype, first time ever a trend related to her crossed 60k+ tweets but shaheer is to be blamed just for doing his work? And regarding his hair, even I hated it, I wanted to smack him for doing this but the fact is even if he keeps his hair short, storyline toh waise bhi pukeworthy hai and its not gonna get trp above 0.3.

Arey bhai/behen... twitter ka twitter mein rakho. I brought the blame topic here coz it was you who first started about Shaheer staying back and Erica leaving.

He is working on two shows and not doing justice to this one... doing his job badly...yet you expect me to appreciate him? Mera chacha mama nahi lagta hai.

As I said in my first reply to you...there are characters in this show who were given the least screen space yet they were convincing. Shaheer ki toh unse zyada scope thi but we was not good with most parts given toh him. Bas yahi keh rahe the hum and you brought the whole new angle to that discussion with how he is managing two shows, sacrificing his time baby, being loyal to the production house by staying, his online fans helping his female co-stars, etc.

Erica is quite new no? Uske baare mein bhi zyada nahi suna except saw that she's playing Prerna. That was enough reason to not watch her show. This is my first show where I'm watching her perform and she's doing a great job in most of the scenes given to her. If she is unhappy with how her character is shaping up...she has all the rights to quit. She's not doing anything unethical.

Originally posted by: Rashi23

Saw this on twitter, this thing would have happened if shaheer would have left the show.

Arey when he was working simultaneously on both the shows then too people had problem and now if he is staying then too ppl have problem.

Not only Erica's character graph is going downwards even dev's character is shown as dumb inspite of being ceo and 40+. Atleast sonakshi is speaking up, trying to keep Sanjana away be there for her kids but dev usko toh ek idiot dumb ke tarah dikha rahe hai. Is this the same s1 wala dev no he knows it but still he is doing the show because there are many actors for whom the show comes first.

Erica got sympathy, online hype, first time ever a trend related to her crossed 60k+ tweets but shaheer is to be blamed just for doing his work? And regarding his hair, even I hated it, I wanted to smack him for doing this but the fact is even if he keeps his hair short, storyline toh waise bhi pukeworthy hai and its not gonna get trp above 0.3.

As far as I have seen, ppl don't bash any actor here. They just criticize and move on. Twitter is nasty and I have seen ppl bash his wife and child also but here no one says anything about anyone. At least on this forum, no one is glorifying Shaheer/Erica and no one is bashing them either for whatever decision they make

Originally posted by: GoodVibes1010

Not just male actor fans. Female actor fans are also like that as far as Indian TV fans are concerned. I have seen so many big FDs give all the credit to the actress just because she is the most popular one of the two. They don't realise that even Amitabh Bachchan doesn't get TRP on TV (KBC this time is under performing). So forget these other actors

Earlier as in really really long back...the women in ITV were actually more popular than the men. Yaad nahi kitne Mihir badal gaye but tulsi same...kitne Sujal badal gaye but Kashish(?) same. FLs were irreplaceable back then. Reason why Ekta favoured the women more and she still does imo. She's one woman I detest for the shows she makes but admire for her business tactics.

Originally posted by: Rashi23

Oh God so maine kab kahan that a popular actor will get the show trps. But producers still cast actors based on their followers do you agree to this or not?

I just said that rhea got popular online because she worked with Shaheer. Now if she comes with another show then it might get online hype because she has an active fan base but trps would solely depend on the storyline. Her previous had trps but nor she neither her jodi had the craze which mishbir had.

Yeah, I know ekta doesn't care about yhc , anyways except for this show all the shows are not performing well.

Bas ab same baat main aur repeat nahi kar sakti, I hope you understand that I was solely taking about online buzz and not trps that a popular actors brings.

I don't know the casting grounds... But what must matter to them is how convincing the actor is in that role & whether the chemistry clicks! Fan base is ONLY an added advantage. EK is known for casting newbies & getting the chemistry right. Agar sab producer established actor ko cast karenge, toh naye walo ko mauka kaise milega? Even Shaheer wouldn't make his way up to here if he didn't get a chance. Not that he had a readymade fanbase right from the beginning. Lol

I don't know why you think ppl hate Shaheer here (forgive me if I misunderstood the intent of your post). I really liked him as Dev in S1 and have mentioned it numerous times here. Ppl only have issues with you crediting the success of a show to one actor (or that's how it comes across even if you intend to convey something else). I personally don't hate/love any actor. I watch if the show is decent or if not move on. Even this am watching only because of S1 and the nostalgia. Otherwise there is no personal investment in Shaheer or Erica

Originally posted by: Rashi23

Guys I think y'all took my post wrongly. I wasn't trying to create sympathy for shaheer. Even I know that all of them are just making money out of our beloved show, which is close to the fans heart but for actors and producers it's just a show. Even when fans say that they came back for us, I know that it's all bullshit and they are here only to make money.

I know he didn't perform well in this season, he was clearly looking disinterested and that showed with the way he tried to experiment with his look inspite of knowing that dev is a business man and he needs to look at his best.

I'm just saying that just because Erica is quitting and shaheer is staying because there are reasons for it like I mentioned that he has always said in his interviews that he would never leave a show midway because he thinks that producer has showed faith in him by roping him for the show and it's his duty to support them even if the storyline goes wrong. Ya money ka matter ho sakta hai but recently in his ivs he said that he wants to wrap up his shoot so that he can spend time with his daughter and family. He is still doing the show inspite of not getting any scope to perform because he has given his word to the ph.

And frankly I'd be the last one to say that actors are working for fans, even in yrkkh the lead pair are still working even though they killed one part of the ship and then introduced fl as new character and got them married. The fans rebelled but still they are doing the show only for money and because they know that if they quit midway their producer would hold grudge against them. But still their fans try to gain sympathy for them saying that the producer is using them for his own benefit.

In short some actors think only about their character and the money and some actors think about the show, they prioritise the show which gave them fame and name and the money, even though things are going onscreen.

I can't reply to everyone so tagging few ppl here to quoted my post.

Replying only because I got tagged again, otherwise I don't really have any problem with you having your own opinion/beliefs. You can believe whatever you feel right, I have no problem with that.

But I personally don't believe in that. Especially the bold parts. Sorry.

I don't believe everything the actors say in interviews as if they are some gospel truth. They carefully build an image that they want the viewers to believe & say what they think viewers would want to hear. And I am not talking about only Shaheer here. I think that's the case for most of the actors. It's foolish to imagine that we know the real them because we see only what they choose to show us.

As for Shaheer & his commitments to PH.... Maybe true to some extent. But not really applicable to this KRPKAB 3. If he was so committed to this show or the PH, he would not have taken up another show while this one is still on air & let that show to affect his performance in this one. He looks tired & sleepwalking through his scenes here because he is investing a good time over there. His screen space & overall the focus on Dev & Devakshi have reduced here because he cannot shoot for adequate time here & there simultaneously. He looks nothing like Dev Dixit, the suave businessman, should look because he is maintaining the shabby unkempt look for his poor mechanic role there. Believe whatever you want to, but I refuse to believe he is doing some kind of favor on the fans of this show or charity to the PH of this show by ruining /letting ruin Dev Dixit like that. He probably doesn't care all that much & is happy as long as he is getting his paycheque.

Please do not tag me further because my point of view wouldn't change based on what he has said in his interviews. I am not his fan. I am neither a hater nor hold any grudge that he is earning money from 2 shows simultaneously. His family is growing & he needs the money. That's not a bad thing. I don't remember I have ever objected to that.

Originally posted by: GoodVibes1010

I don't know why you think ppl hate Shaheer here (forgive me if I misunderstood the intent of your post). I really liked him as Dev in S1 and have mentioned it numerous times here. Ppl only have issues with you crediting the success of a show to one actor (or that's how it comes across even if you intend to convey something else). I personally don't hate/love any actor. I watch if the show is decent or if not move on. Even this am watching only because of S1 and the nostalgia. Otherwise there is no personal investment in Shaheer or Erica

I gave credit only for the online hype. And not only to shaheer, I would even give Harshad the credit if because of him the new generation yrkkh leads get online popularity. I agree show needs good storyline to get desired ratings maybe that's the reason why krpkab isn't doing well both online and offline because the storyline is trash. Yrhpk also ended because storyline post lockdown was utter garbage. I just put out my thoughts out there because I thought people were a bit harshly judging shaheer and I wanted to give them a different perspective that's it. Otherwise since the beginning when I got to know that they are continuing the story I knew that new season would be a flop because the show had reached it saturation point and there was nothing to show with the characters who had an happy ending in the previous season. Just want the show to end with sharica as devakshi that's it.

Originally posted by: NotAMuggle

Replying only because I got tagged again, otherwise I don't really have any problem with you having your own opinion/beliefs. You can believe whatever you feel right, I have no problem with that.

But I personally don't believe in that. Especially the bold parts. Sorry.

I don't believe everything the actors say in interviews as if they are some gospel truth. They carefully build an image that they want the viewers to believe & say what they think viewers would want to hear. And I am not talking about only Shaheer here. I think that's the case for most of the actors. It's foolish to imagine that we know the real them because we see only what they choose to show us.

As for Shaheer & his commitments to PH.... Maybe true to some extent. But not really applicable to this KRPKAB 3. If he was so committed to this show or the PH, he would not have taken up another show while this one is still on air & let that show to affect his performance in this one. He looks tired & sleepwalking through his scenes here because he is investing a good time over there. His screen space & overall the focus on Dev & Devakshi have reduced here because he cannot shoot for adequate time here & there simultaneously. He looks nothing like Dev Dixit, the suave businessman, should look because he is maintaining the shabby unkempt look for his poor mechanic role there. Believe whatever you want to, but I refuse to believe he is doing some kind of favor on the fans of this show or charity to the PH of this show by ruining /letting ruin Dev Dixit like that. He probably doesn't care all that much & is happy as long as he is getting his paycheque.

Please do not tag me further because my point of view wouldn't change based on what he has said in his interviews. I am not his fan. I am neither a hater nor hold any grudge that he is earning money from 2 shows simultaneously. His family is growing & he needs the money. That's not a bad thing. I don't remember I have ever objected to that.

Like you said I wasn't planning to reply to you but one last time.

Like I said even I didn't like his unprofessional behavior but due to lockdown the shooting of these two shows overlapped. Like actresses, actors can't wear wig and shoot for shows.

Also I hated his unkempt look throughout the last few months but it doesn't change that fact that even if he kept that shabby look the shows trp was still the same. Even if he would have performed better the trps would have been the same.

Okay I understand actors say few things for their good image. But there are so many actors who are working in the bhagya and yrkkh and other shows since forever even though there's no storyline to it and its going around in circles and theres no character growth and scope to perform. They are getting paycheck and their fans are unhappy that their potential is wasted but they don't care.

In short I'm saying is it's just not shaheer who is working for money but even other popular actors are working for money in the same gisa pita shows for years now. This show would end in couple of days but their shows would still run on air forever.