Some one Needs to Talk to Virat and Sai - Page 2

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Yeah its not like one cannot expect things from the other..We are all after all humans...

@bold We were all ready for the fights..Remember we discussed their dirty fights have more fire and more chemistry than their romance...After a long time I enjoyed two people falling in love for each other..fight that way... The passion that the fights had..But in the process he became inhuman and insensitive. I dont know if the way he behaves and protects Patrallekha's virtue knowing her true colors can be called cheating or not, but its certainly not healthy for a marriage, if that woman, he is married to is not Patralekha...He is not even Ninad...because Ninad's Vehni never did have romantic feelings for him, never was shown to be wanting to run away and stay with him the way he wants to 'keep' her...

@red Yes toxic it was, but there was scope of improvement, since they were both new to feelings...and insecure as well....But now I dont see any scope of improvement...💔

@bold No matter problems between a couple, would any one gang up with the ex to humiliate his/her spouse? Would any person be protective of an ex whom you know has been interfering in your life? As much as I wish I was wrong, there is no logical explanation for this strange behaviour than him being emotionally attached to Pakhi in some way. The moment you proritize someone else, are protective of someone else above your own spouse....what is it, if not emotional infidelity? He may not have realised that what he is doing is cheating....I'll grant him that. But that doesn't change the facts.

His inhumanity and his lack of sensitivity has been such a letdown - I cannot explain his actions in anyway.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

@bold No matter problems between a couple, would any one gang up with the ex to humiliate his/her spouse? Would any person be protective of an ex whom you know has been interfering in your life? As much as I wish I was wrong, there is no logical explanation for this strange behaviour than him being emotionally attached to Pakhi in some way. The moment you proritize someone else, are protective of someone else above your own spouse....what is it, if not emotional infidelity? He may not have realised that what he is doing is cheating....I'll grant him that. But that doesn't change the facts.

His inhumanity and his lack of sensitivity has been such a letdown - I cannot explain his actions in anyway.

Emotional infidelity is extremely underrated not just here on this forum , but in general..It takes one to sleep with the other person, to prove infidelity... I always maintained, that what he did in the beginning with Sai and Pakhi was emotional fidelity...But then again he did not know what was going on...He did not understand himself and his feelings...He was making mistakes unintentionally and in all this, he did not know about pakhi's intentions or expectations for him..So there was leverage given to the character, considering the story is about a flawed man... But what he is doing, knowing fully well, how much his spouse is hated by the woman, the woman's intentions for him, the woman's bitterness towards his falling in love with his spouse... he goes on to prioritise her and her respect, her virtue over his spouse's. He lets her crumple his spouse into bits and pieces...and participates as well.. Thats vengeance.. We do hurt each other intentionally in love...But Vengeance...revenge...I dont know about that in a relationship of love..

Haan bahut kuch hua hai tum dono ke beech Virat...pichle ek saal mei...use bas wahi rehne do...Wo ahut saare jazbaat the, bahut majboor jazbaat the, par pyaar nahi.........

Haan Sai kuch to tha tum dono k beech, lekin use bas wahi rehne do...use pyaar mei badalne do...

This Right here what you said is what they need Asmi. They need time away from eachother for Sai to feel alive again and Virat to realize and correct what he did.

To me, I still think🤔 he loves Sai but is truly egoistic and he gets the boost for his ego from his family and Pakhi and they all know that very well. But, I do believe he needs to stay away from Sai if he truly loves her and repent and correct his behavior which is not only toxic , it's inhumane. He needs therapy along with Sai whom he broke bit by bit and pushed her into self doubts and loneliness.

I don't even want to get to his attachment and protective Ness for his babhi. Even bhabi knows that now, with the way she wanted Virat to say something when Samrat was questioning her and he was ready to jump in to save her and badmouth Sai 😡

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Haan bahut kuch hua hai tum dono ke beech Virat...pichle ek saal mei...use bas wahi rehne do...Wo ahut saare jazbaat the, bahut majboor jazbaat the, par pyaar nahi.........

Haan Sai kuch to tha tum dono k beech, lekin use bas wahi rehne do...use pyaar mei badalne do...

This Right here what you said is what they need Asmi. They need time away from eachother for Sai to feel alive again and Virat to realize and correct what he did.

To me, I still think🤔 he loves Sai but is truly egoistic and he gets the boost for his ego from his family and Pakhi and they all know that very well. But, I do believe he needs to stay away from Sai if he truly loves her and repent and correct his behavior which is not only toxic , it's inhumane. He needs therapy along with Sai whom he broke bit by bit and pushed her into self doubts and loneliness.

I don't even want to get to his attachment and protective Ness for his babhi. Even bhabi knows that now, with the way she wanted Virat to say something when Samrat was questioning her and he was ready to jump in to save her and badmouth Sai 😡

Haan bahut kuch hua hai tum dono ke beech Virat...pichle ek saal mei...use bas wahi rehne do...Wo bahut saare jazbaat the, bahut majboot jazbaat the, par pyaar nahi.........

Haan Sai kuch to tha tum dono k beech, lekin use bas wahi rehne do...use pyaar mei mat badalne do...

I meant this yaar !!

Originally posted by: Appu07

Hi does virat ask for forgiveness from sai for his acts in the hospital

He never did...

This was so beautifully written, and was such an honest review. I agree completely with each and every word of yours.I really loved that part about Sunny naming Virat's feeling as love, because it is the truth. I feel like SaiRat's relationship is moving forward more because it is being pushed by others than because of its own development. They are in love because so many people want them to be in love rather than because they truly are. And that just...sucks.

But tbh if we were talking about the initial SaiRat, maybe then I would have easily believed that they have fallen for each other. But this, what we are currently seeing, is not love, and even if it is, it is not a love worth saving.

Many a times I have seen, read or heard people saying that relationship requires sacrifice and compromises and hard work and patience and so many different things, and that we cannot just end a relationship if nothing huge and unforgiving has happened...which is true, really, it is. And that was exactly what I felt before too but recently someone explained something to me. They told me that you shouldn't be obliged to stay in a relationship as far as you are concerned. A relationship can be ended if it is causing you more pain than happiness, and you don't have to wait for something really big to happen. If you feel like you cannot overcome a particular obstacle or cannot stand together in any certain situation, no matter how big or small, then end it. If it is too much for you, then end it. Relationship isn't really that difficult. We get in them and they fail, and they continue to fail until we find one that doesn't.

One of the most common romantic lines I have heard is, "I love her, even if she is flawed." But that shouldn't be the case.

Don't love someone inspite of their flaws, love someone because of them.

And I am yet to find that in SaiRat...or in real life, speaking frankly.

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Way too idealistic?

Pretty sure I am going to die alone.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Emotional infidelity is extremely underrated not just here on this forum , but in general..It takes one to sleep with the other person, to prove infidelity... I always maintained, that what he did in the beginning with Sai and Pakhi was emotional fidelity...But then again he did not know what was going on...He did not understand himself and his feelings...He was making mistakes unintentionally and in all this, he did not know about pakhi's intentions or expectations for him..So there was leverage given to the character, considering the story is about a flawed man... But what he is doing, knowing fully well, how much his spouse is hated by the woman, the woman's intentions for him, the woman's bitterness towards his falling in love with his spouse... he goes on to prioritise her and her respect, her virtue over his spouse's. He lets her crumple his spouse into bits and pieces...and participates as well.. Thats vengeance.. We do hurt each other intentionally in love...But Vengeance...revenge...I dont know about that in a relationship of love..

Yes emotional infidelity is underrated. It's like one is cheating only if you sleep with someone. Marriages break because of emotional infidelity. Just like in physical EMA, emotional infidelity can cause the self-esteem of the spouse to crash. 😒. And it will be so painful.

Let him not show the consideration of a man in love....just have a very basic respect for the other person....someone you were attached with. One can say hurtful things in anger...but to gang up and let your ex destroy your spouse's self-respect?

About vengeance - on point ❤️.

Originally posted by: ShipIsSailing

This was so beautifully written, and was such an honest review. I agree completely with each and every word of yours.I really loved that part about Sunny naming Virat's feeling as love, because it is the truth. I feel like SaiRat's relationship is moving forward more because it is being pushed by others than because of its own development. They are in love because so many people want them to be in love rather than because they truly are. And that just...sucks.

But tbh if we were talking about the initial SaiRat, maybe then I would have easily believed that they have fallen for each other. But this, what we are currently seeing, is not love, and even if it is, it is not a love worth saving.

Many a times I have seen, read or heard people saying that relationship requires sacrifice and compromises and hard work and patience and so many different things, and that we cannot just end a relationship if nothing huge and unforgiving has happened...which is true, really, it is. And that was exactly what I felt before too but recently someone explained something to me. They told me that you shouldn't be obliged to stay in a relationship as far as you are concerned. A relationship can be ended if it is causing you more pain than happiness, and you don't have to wait for something really big to happen. If you feel like you cannot overcome a particular obstacle or cannot stand together in any certain situation, no matter how big or small, then end it. If it is too much for you, then end it. Relationship isn't really that difficult. We get in them and they fail, and they continue to fail until we find one that doesn't.

One of the most common romantic lines I have heard is, "I love her, even if she is flawed." But that shouldn't be the case.

Don't love someone inspite of their flaws, love someone because of them.

And I am yet to find that in SaiRat...or in real life, speaking frankly.

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Way too idealistic?

Pretty sure I am going to die alone.

This holds true, if there is no third person in the relationship...No interference in the relationship... If there is no hurting the spouse, with your ex involved in the relationship...If there is no comparing the spouse with the ex in the relationship!!

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Yes emotional infidelity is underrated. It's like one is cheating only if you sleep with someone. Marriages break because of emotional infidelity. Just like in physical EMA, emotional infidelity can cause the self-esteem of the spouse to crash. 😒. And it will be so painful.

Let him not show the consideration of a man in love....just have a very basic respect for the other person....someone you were attached with. One can say hurtful things in anger...but to gang up and let your ex destroy your spouse's self-respect?

About vengeance - on point ❤️.

If its is not that then what , when he wants Sai to suffer , to feel loneliness, to feel alone knowing she has no one in general...knowing she is at threat in GC.. just because she left him...just because she released him from his responsibilities as a guardian.. In any case, she was free to go whenever she wanted right...

ANd the fact that, it will never be revealed that she had that accident saving someone else and not because she was to suffer, because she decided to leave that "loving" family... they are going that route only...

*Sorry for the long rant

This is such a thought provoking post ❤️

Coming to the content of it, when you were describing Virat, I realised that he's real. What ever description you gave of him, is not just something from reel, but real. You would find a Virat in almost all men today, at least parts of him. As a 21st century man that was raised in very much patriarchal joint family, yet ruled by a matriarch, that is exactly where the seed of Virat's 2-personality life came into being. On one side, in the dynamics of his parents, his father held the crown, suddenly turning towards his family as whole, his aunt controlled stuff. The opinion that men should always be in control is both supported and negated in this situation.

His relationship with Sai, had it been a real life one, should have taken the most natural course of sustaining. In the absence of speeding heart beats, electric touches and cool breezes thus thus a relationship that had the capacity to grow into the strongest of ones. Simply because, it's 2 humans. 2 humans bound by circumstances. Their marriage wouldn't have been their 1st choice, but it wasn't a revenge marriage or a fraudulent one or something of that sort. When Virat described to Sai that she should have no expectations, I cheered. He was saying the truth wasn't he ? In a situation where the other woman is physically absent, the strain in their relationship would have been less stronger. But , Patralekha was in front of their eyes. Reminding Virat that he broke a promise and reminding Sai that she had no one, for herself.

Virat gets influenced, easily. He's a man that wears his sleeve on his heart. His promise to Patralekha, his regards of Samrat's feelings and his promise to Kamal Joshi. All of them stem out of the good part in him. But when you wear your heart on you sleeve, it's equally easier for him to get hurt. Spending time with Sai, observing her as she is in the confines of their bedroom, not just as a stubborn girl from Gadchiroli, but as just Sai, created feelings in him. Feelings that once again, made him falsely believe were love. Just like with Patralekha. Had the realization come naturally to him, without any prompting, as be he would have upheld values of love.

His guilt of seeing Patralekha alone, gravitated him to her side in the early days of his marriage. Once again his big heart. But the dynamics changed. Sai made a place for herself and this gave rise to expectations. When he feels, they were not met, the patriarchal Virat comes out. The one that accuses his wife, the one that manhandles her and the one that kicks her out at night. He's the villain of his story. The Bad Virat.

Not very unsurprisingly, Virat is a representation of real humans. The good and bad. The evil and kind. The conservative and liberal. He's the kind of guy that wants the butterfly to fly but in the confines of a sanctuary.

Like you, the moment the defined SaiRat for me was the more when applies baking soda to Sai's feet. This wasn't ACP Virat Chavan fulfilling his responsibilities to his teacher. This was the husband Virat Chavan, taking care of his wife, because she did something that gave birth to wife in her for the first time. And that is exactly when the husband in him was born as well. What happened in that scene wasn't love. Not romance. It was the birth of a role for Virat Chavan. As a husband. A role that he would handle and mishandle. It was also a moment that made him imagine for a minute, Sai as his wife, not a ward.

I might hate SaiRat now, I might think they're the most toxic couple on earth. But tomorrow when he cries infront of her or for her, I know that I'll melt and go back to being a shipper. But that's me. And my toxic relationship with SaiRat. But I'm a human and I'm fallacious. My mistakes and faults are allowed and to an extent, excusable, as long as they affect only me. The second it causes harm to a second person, I'm to be held liable. The onus is on me, to correct myself. The same with Virat Chavan.