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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Whatever765

Juuvi, badhiya words mein toh aapne seedha seedha bol diya aur woh bhi satya vachan...👍🏼

Didi is the third "something" in this show. No matter what we say, she is there on that montage, albeit in a tiny frame..problem is they could never figure out the character sketch. Malini has to be the worst written I have read or watched. Top it with just bad acting...so yeah we are stuck with her. Didi ghusne ka kaam toh pehle se kar rahi thi..but that time she was really not essential to the track so yeah. She was dead weight back then. Ofcourse they brought this cringeworthy track now, because koi na dekha toh bhi thik, dekhe toh ranting milegi, anticipation milega ki abhi khatam hua ya kal ya fir parson. And to top it all didi ko screen space..because she be that third something.. They have been so non linear since that entire suicide track. Until script writing is tight, you really cannot expect any screenplay or execution to come through right. Again that is just my opinion. This interview also I feel was to see if people will buy this track just because Gash is saying it. If they see even a bit of positivity in the feedback, trust me they will stretch this more. But here majorly there is a backlash, something tells me they will start to wrap it up now. Again the randomness is so apparent, that if they decide this can all start to rebound tomorrow.

I have the same qualm as yours and actually tweeted it too last night. Trust me when I don't have anything good to say, I am not the kind who will go bashing around. But this bothered me too. AKT can stay in his delusion about Malini, do stuff for her because bacche ki ma and all that. Hell he can take her to eat chaat and go on drives too because token gestures to bande ko karne hi hote hain...BUT, why was there no concern about Imlie's college situation when the girl literally blasted him for being the reason of this. A one minute scene would have sufficed, where he calls KC to seek advice. But no, the writers completely missed that point. Arre they did not even show him sharing the little happiness at the breakfast table! He was eating! Coming to this debate thing, why does Imlie have to go by DTC, he could have asked Nishant to drop her knowing she does not want any help from him. 30 sec scene requesting Nishant to take her to college and not tell her! This is exactly where they are missing the basic depiction of how AKT is looking at things. One would think, he would be more tending towards Imlie, knowing he has done a blunder, but naah, its like the writers did not even think of that aspect. Now the only reason I think they did not even touch that layer is because they are forcing situations like these, so as to ultimately make Imlie realize it is indeed going to difficult to be with this AKT, again just going by so many connotations in the past two episodes, NN talk, her own debate...

Until Imlie distances herself, AKT aint gonna think or use any of his remaining brains, unfortunately!

Uff exhausting much! It is a mess indeed...

I meant to actually say I'm not good at words.. Arghhh these typos.. 😒..

The disjointed epis we are getting are also the result of some kinda trying to do damage control.. But its not working.. Imlie's debate competition was again something else.. Was it for current scenario was it for previous one or coming one.. Nothing connected..

Imlie distancing herself from adi still being there infront of his eyes won't make a difference.. Imlie leaving they made a joke out of that too.. Now imlie legit getting attacked by M or AC MC gloating about their victory n for the time they think k haan ab imlie chali gayi... For whatever time frame she leaves.. N Adi overhearing that will onky work for adi..

He needs to hear upfront every damn scheme was planned n executed equally by mother daughter duo n the daughter went far ahead with with this pregnancy card.. He needs to hear this from the horse's mouth.. Nothingn other than that will make a difference..

Waqai this is too exhausting😪

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Juvvi9

Seera ji.. Good to have u back in discussions.🤗..

I might be wrong in my understanding of ckt but i connected with Aditya till even the footage was shown to.. I understood him till that.. He was the same as he was in first 58 episodes..

But since he deleted the footage n left the burned of decision on imlie with M bringing in the pregnancy angle I'm not able to bear him.. I know he loves imlie n he won't accept M as a life partner anytime or for even the baby.. But his characterisation took a serious hit when he didn't even consult imlie before deleting the video n even now not giving a thought to whatever she is saying.. Now his claims seem to be mere words.. Nothing else..

The writers definitely made a mess there

Completely with u.. I understand that they made a mess of character.. but I am still holding out hope that he is still trying to find a balance in his life.. out of no where he is a father of a child born out of forced Situation.. with a woman whom he doesn’t love hell he doesn’t even consider friend.. but has to be available to her whims n fancies..


On other hand he wants to do justice for Imlie but his new found responsibilities are not making him do that.. he is divided.. this is again a ladayi of Pyaar Vs Jimmedari and he is failing again at it..


But the way he was sole focused on imlie at that too he will be this time too.. he made mistakes and a ton of them.. some minor some unfortunate some unforgivable.. but end of the end he loves imlie and he will find his path towards her..


He just needs time and yes that is something he doesn’t have.. so let his mistakes define him for now but he will rise.. with help of imlie. Cos she is his Rasta and she is his manzil..

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Juvvi9

I meant to actually say I'm not good at words.. Arghhh these typos.. 😒..

The disjointed epis we are getting are also the result of some kinda trying to do damage control.. But its not working.. Imlie's debate competition was again something else.. Was it for current scenario was it for previous one or coming one.. Nothing connected..

Imlie distancing herself from adi still being there infront of his eyes won't make a difference.. Imlie leaving they made a joke out of that too.. Now imlie legit getting attacked by M or AC MC gloating about their victory n for the time they think k haan ab imlie chali gayi... For whatever time frame she leaves.. N Adi overhearing that will onky work for adi..

He needs to hear upfront every damn scheme was planned n executed equally by mother daughter duo n the daughter went far ahead with with this pregnancy card.. He needs to hear this from the horse's mouth.. Nothingn other than that will make a difference..

Waqai this is too exhausting😪

So true, they know they are dishing out nonsense melodrama, so they keep putting in random episodes, its like reminders, "we suck right now, because the freaking haq right now, but here take this scene of Adi and Imlie scene or just powerful Imlie scene and remember they are our only chance at this luck right now"

When I said distancing, I did actually mean and want it to be a physical distancing. Will they give it will they not, who knows, there is always a mockery even behind that. I sometimes feel they just love trolling us. At this point like you said, AKT has to hear all these schemes, starting from the fake suicide--- first hand and unmediated. And I think we will get that. I do not see any way around that. This has escalated to a level where a moral triage will be required. AKT has blasted Malini before, I don't see why he will abstain now..

Oh but this entire pregnancy, the lack of comprehension to the situation has set the mood so bleh! I am not sure what trigger do they need to put this in a higher gear...tab tak skip ya forward..😔

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Juvvi9

Seera ji.. Good to have u back in discussions.🤗..

I might be wrong in my understanding of ckt but i connected with Aditya till even the footage was shown to.. I understood him till that.. He was the same as he was in first 58 episodes..

But since he deleted the footage n left the burned of decision on imlie with M bringing in the pregnancy angle I'm not able to bear him.. I know he loves imlie n he won't accept M as a life partner anytime or for even the baby.. But his characterisation took a serious hit when he didn't even consult imlie before deleting the video n even now not giving a thought to whatever she is saying.. Now his claims seem to be mere words.. Nothing else..

The writers definitely made a mess there

Seera aayi...gif nahi laayi...hattooo!

Juuvi ji, oh I wanted to throw something at him...but he is the same man who married Malini, because she is an emotional wreck and he is the same man who deleted the video because how can he let his baby be born in the jail! I forget how the scenes played out for maha episode, but currently toh he does not even think he was molested! It was all AC ka kiya hua...! I am not sure if he knew that it was AC ka kiya hua when he deleted the video...i will have to go back and check...I literally forwarded that episode. It boggles me that he did not even tell Imlie he deleted it! He did not consult is a different thing.. but he does not tell her is what bothers me..he let her get embarrassed why? To freaking show a forced situation of what we have now by the writers...! Oh it is such a convoluted mess that started with Imlie helping SK escape. Sorcery much!

I am not sure how they cannot see how they have missed details and how it is shaping up things to be so barmy. Ab kar toh diya hai...hopefully nikalne ka rasta dikh jaye and they do not mess that process and give us reasons ---oh they are stretched and "scriptwriting is the toughest of the racket"

Edited by Whatever765 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Whatever765

Let me try Raaz ji


Mann ne maanga saath tora

The heart desired your companionship


Tune mann ko vanvaas diya

You gave exile to this heart


Mann ke hatheli par tune rakh

Toota hua biswas diya

But in turn, you gave me a broken trust..


Door bahut hain hum dono par

There is distance between us now


Fir bhi mann ko aasa hai

Still the heart has hope


Poori nahi tore mann se mitegi

Prem ki ko parbhasha hai..


The definition of love will not be erased from your heart..


There is more to this poem by the poet who wrote it, but this is what was telecasted...


Thank you 🤗this is great will revert shortly as I have been working on a parallel post that was first published by Aps and want to reference this part as I watch this weeks episode but will say this the poem is beautiful


Love the angst shown in it

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Juvvi9

Even then they could've done really good fillers not necessarily ghussaoing didi in every frame n this absolute cringe of pregnancy n bacha angle.. But this was well planned strategic move.. They need to have audience here till atleast ipl n then we have even t20 world cup coming in almost next week only n imlie needs to have some buzz.. The IV did its job for the coming week.. Uske baad we'll have some idiotic promo again..

The marriage truth reveal had imlie adi in focus didi was there but the story wasn't revolving around her.. For example PD3 they did ghusao didi but the centre was adi and imlie..

I know they are showing imlie is enough for herself but they also did show that even if imlie doesn't need anyone adi promised to be there always.. In which he's failing.. Basic saath n trust is missing big time.. Adilie as a unit is missing which is the crux of the story.. Even hiding the marriage truth was their decision together.. Now its actually going haywire..

If they want to keep playing like this they will definitely dubo.. 2 boats mei sawar hone ki koshish..

N regarding PD.. Atif already cleared that after hyd track the story completely moved to delhi.. So we're not gonna have that kuch bhi ho.. Satak gaye hai ye log..

I'm not good at words like raaz n whatever but i hope u ppl get what i said


Hey Juvvi the words you have used make perfect sense and the emotions you are trying to emote make are logical too.


although I agree that you are missing there saath I will also argue that this in a relationship comes in two elements there is the physical side and one of emotional understanding. At the moment both Aditya and Imlie are physically present in there marriage but there communication is lacking because the love they hold has know become a becon to the manipulation of Maline and her acts. The fact that both still hold faith that they can cross these hurdles shows of the hurt they each feel ans hope they both carry. You have to go back and rewatch clip when he helped explain to her that this road is a long journey full of battles they are yet to face together.


One of the fact is that internally Aditya understand or wants to understand the trauma he has faced but just like the forced marriage it shall take him time to tackle these demons. Although you say that there saath is missing I would say more of that there communication is off piont and this is because Aditya no longer has faith within decisions. He voiced this out before that they are both on different tracks and he misses the imlie that was a visionary and fought for her dreams. In this scenario he once again is asking for her strength to be his being anchor him ashore as his ashes are lost to the wind.

The man is broken both from a perspective of his soul and one whom measures each relationship based upon the responsibilities that it carries for him. He can no longer draw a line between the two and this is what he is struggling to come home too.
And the reason is that until he doesn’t accept the fact that he is a victim him and imlie cannot heal together. He will have to learn to let go and move forward and make his own choice one that will suit him and whom he is internally. Imlie cannot make that for him and as nani said it today Imlie has thought of everyone accept her own self and whom will think of her.

I saw a valid point episode today which made sense to me in all the episodes where imlie was like my faith is enough for me to travel this journey on my own she always said that if she takes his hand she will not survive losing the love she never had. You have to remember she has never been wanted by her own father and the society she lived has mocked her for it. Although dev has claimed her on paper and thrown money at her he has never really shown her to be above Maline when he has know for her to be wrong. She said she cannot deal with being abandoned because she is willing to give and receive as long as she knows she belongs.

That home she has built in his trust today is being cracked into and this is why they are at crossroads because in fulfilling his relationship towards Maline and ease his guilt he is letting imlie deal with her own demons. He has forgotten that she needs to be reassured that he will not want to stand with anyone else. He may profess that he is sorry in million ways but today he is failing to see the struggles imlie is putting in to turn her pain into motivation. He is failing to see that she is there for him and him alone.


The fact that he is failing to see her being there with him is there faith in them is his failing to see that even today she trust him to do right by her and them but all she is asking for on return for him to own is does he trust her and today she said it tight his words are hallow because he doesn’t believe her because of he had he would have spoken to her and valued her opinions as much as he did that of his friend whom he sees as a victim.

imlie plight will fall on deaf ears unless she shown him a mirror to his errors and that day is not far. Is like she said if he was going to leave her when he deleted the video at least he should have told her why. But his choice not to include her shows her that her faith and feelings didn’t not matter.

She pointed that out well this week for or last that she never felt alone till now because she knew she had him by her side but today she doesn’t know what she has for the approval of there love was for them and today she doesn’t if that matters. People say why did imlie wait for him after the debate because her heart still believes she is his home and he will come for her. She is trying to see if she matters.


We can see in Aditya defeated mannerisms that she does but his actions refute his denial of the longing he holds. Until both don’t share the doubts they hold mutually there will be no solution. And no the solution is not to walk away.
Until he walks on eggshells around Maline he will not be able to come out of the confusion he feels. His worry of not upsetting Maline is causing his own relationship to fail with imlie. The fact that Maline thrive off the abuse she is dishing out shows the control she has has on him for years and until and unless he lets her stay in it he doesn’t love himself enough to move forward. He needs to trust in own principles again and find that inner spirit that made him the man he was. Agree and cry our his pain and then take a leap and stand for himself and them. Imlie has done so he is yet to follow.


See I believe imlie will only leave when he will keep making the same mistake and this track may show us that too.

So for me I say there are at crossroads of where there love bonds them and there respect holds them together yet there faith is being tested in the trust they are trying to seek in another. This is another sort of test. Hope that makes sense 😊

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Whatever765

So true, they know they are dishing out nonsense melodrama, so they keep putting in random episodes, its like reminders, "we suck right now, because the freaking haq right now, but here take this scene of Adi and Imlie scene or just powerful Imlie scene and remember they are our only chance at this luck right now"

When I said distancing, I did actually mean and want it to be a physical distancing. Will they give it will they not, who knows, there is always a mockery even behind that. I sometimes feel they just love trolling us. At this point like you said, AKT has to hear all these schemes, starting from the fake suicide--- first hand and unmediated. And I think we will get that. I do not see any way around that. This has escalated to a level where a moral triage will be required. AKT has blasted Malini before, I don't see why he will abstain now..

Oh but this entire pregnancy, the lack of comprehension to the situation has set the mood so bleh! I am not sure what trigger do they need to put this in a higher gear...tab tak skip ya forward..😔

Exactly whatever ji, like juvvi ji said, nothing else will do. I'm guessing Imlie will leave ya NDE and then ma-beti will assume she's dead and start boasting about their success remembering every crime, and this will be heard by Adi. But tab tak I guess they'll ruin his character even more in the coming 2 weeks. This is so messed up.

Even Imlie staying back, they've kept is so vague. It looked like she was going to leave outside the court but he came n said give up mat karo toh she's back at home cleaning the kitchen counter? Again, why is she staying when he denied to believe her over MC/AC? Ok, I'll assume she knows he has been wronged and wants to prove it. But there's no progress. They again showed how she thinks AC is behind the kidnap but still nothing happened yet. I'd been telling myself to wait for a few more episodes but the lack of continuity and forceful inclusion of new tracks like debate competition now this sex workers jo bhi hai they seem to serve no purpose whatsoever. Her speech was good but it is still not clear what she'll be doing buddhi se. The wait is too long.

And I'd love to agree with Seera ji on AKT's character but IV mein Gash himself mentioned that the writing is frivolous. That the script says bas usne kehdiya toh yakeen karliya, even Gash is not able to relate to his own character toh hum kaise karenge? Now I feel like they didn't even include the line where he says he'll thank Kunal and the one where he says jaldi aao award dikhao 🤢 but maybe it was Gash who included these just to try keeping the character intact.

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Posted: 3 years ago

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Exactly whatever ji, like juvvi ji said, nothing else will do. I'm guessing Imlie will leave ya NDE and then ma-beti will assume she's dead and start boasting about their success remembering every crime, and this will be heard by Adi. But tab tak I guess they'll ruin his character even more in the coming 2 weeks. This is so messed up.

Even Imlie staying back, they've kept is so vague. It looked like she was going to leave outside the court but he came n said give up mat karo toh she's back at home cleaning the kitchen counter? Again, why is she staying when he denied to believe her over MC/AC? Ok, I'll assume she knows he has been wronged and wants to prove it. But there's no progress. They again showed how she thinks AC is behind the kidnap but still nothing happened yet. I'd been telling myself to wait for a few more episodes but the lack of continuity and forceful inclusion of new tracks like debate competition now this sex workers jo bhi hai they seem to serve no purpose whatsoever. Her speech was good but it is still not clear what she'll be doing buddhi se. The wait is too long.

And I'd love to agree with Seera ji on AKT's character but IV mein Gash himself mentioned that the writing is frivolous. That the script says bas usne kehdiya toh yakeen karliya, even Gash is not able to relate to his own character toh hum kaise karenge? Now I feel like they didn't even include the line where he says he'll thank Kunal and the one where he says jaldi aao award dikhao 🤢 but maybe it was Gash who included these just to try keeping the character intact.

All the analysis of the characters, the thought process around the plot, the character traits and beliefs and the intricate emotions are carefully peeled by “a set of audience”. This set is probably the ones who WANT TO analyze it and have the time and interest (hint: GM’s IV) to understand the depth of the story.

Then there are the in-law taunts and the placebo episodes that give us nothing to go by and are cringe worthy episodes with a sprinkling of social issues that have improper closures that cannot be justified. Such episodes maybe ok to another set of audience who are the general public who watch it for 20 mins a day and move onto the next show in the next slot. They don’t ponder over it.

See now the clash here is people who understand this depth develop an emotional connect with the characters and if you give them the cringe worthy episodes, they will obviously fail to see that connect and worth.

I don’t even think the writers and creatives are capable of analyzing as much as we do given the information from the IV. So to expect some balance here that would make sense, is insensible. We expect that there is no way out but the exposure of MC and all the crimes, but I bet the creatives themselves probably don’t know that.
If anything, that IV has given me an escapes-chute from my expectations-rocket building up. I need to tone down any and all possible outcomes.


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Posted: 3 years ago

See today episode had two key points one which we all have been asking for the last few weeks which is whom will fight for imlie when she is looking out for everyone and the second was that an image doesn’t always portray the trust of the matter.


We always knew no matter what even when Aditya was angry at his faith he looked out for her an her safety but today he neglected to make the phone call even when he was driving he could have made and excuse and checked. He took Maline health above the concern of his wife when he could have taken a few and still called using hands free because the car he is driving has the option but no that part has to go out of the window as they opened. Fine I let that slip but the fact that he knew she has been through traumatic few days doesn’t mean she is all fine for he must see her pain or was his concern just empty words again. This is why I loved when imlie said don’t apologies when you don’t know what you are trying to say sorry for.

He is once again walking on the path that is easy for him and eases his guilt but emotionally he is not trying to heal the hurt he has caused imlie. Nishant had a point he lucky she is around for him to have a chance to redeem this but for that he has to be willing but he never challenged Maline need. That part shows the level of denial he is in.

Sorry but he should have used his heart over his brain for a change. Imlie wait cannot be skipped because in her own journey she is making headway’s in her eduction which was alway her goal. Today it was pointed out that Aditya will not fight for her because he has made his choice to put the child first. He is a defeatist trying to make the situation better but ending it on worse grounds.

The other part I liked was that although imlie may be waiting today when she walks away tomorrow she can hold her head high and say she gave him enough chances. One can make the mistake once but repeating them self is a crime in it self that denial cannot hide.

She is staying because she knows mutually they want to be together and love them with the flaws they have. She knows that of him and her. Imlie see this and trying to teach him and them to own that part of themselves. The truth is he is struggling to anchor himself home to her to them because he has lost hope in himself. He is offering that little bit he had to Maline and in it hurting the one that should matter.


The fact is imie is not jealous of Maline and that bothers her to no end. Just because Aditya is with her doesn’t mean that he wants her and for Maline that is the narcissist in her whom keeps Aditya at a tipping point reminding him of what all she has sown without having really done anything for him. She has been giving him this performance for seven years that is why today imlie it not able to change his view. Until he lets go of that control she holds no matter what he promises imlie he won’t be able to deliver. But imlie believes he will be able to work through thank and this is why she is still there, for today she is thinking with her heart then mind as walking away is easy but staying is hard.

Aditya on the other hand is lost both physically and mentally and he will first be mentally open to making a choice and then fighting for what he wants. That’s what meethi I feel is asking will her daughter wait be answered. Will she have someone to love her as she loves and own her the way she deserves because these two souls we can see crave to be with another even when everyone doesn’t want them to be. This is why what she said bother anu because they want to own Aditya the shell and that is a loss in itself to there pride.

As for the rest one needs to just pray to the imlie gods to at least make him see some of Maline flaws otherwise it just gets boring.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Table for 2, huh?


Can Imlie please send Malini on the date instead? No games needed.


She can go on chai date instead with Sundar. 😳

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