BTW folks, feel free to bash Shiva also 🤣 I am in protect Shiva mode right now, but he too has pulled a lot of 💩
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BTW folks, feel free to bash Shiva also 🤣 I am in protect Shiva mode right now, but he too has pulled a lot of 💩
Originally posted by: ShivaandRaavi
Sometimes I wish raavi actually got married to dev, would she be so clueless? Would they have a clueless relationship? Dev = Clueless, Raavi = Clueless. They were made for each other 🤣
Rishita = speaks a lot, is daring and has a lot to her character. Shiva has a lot of emotions, a lot of daring and has a strong character. Made for each other.
The makers got it the wrong way round 🤣
this is so true 🤣
Originally posted by: funny_fubar
This is my worst fear. Shiva needs to improve- I think he definitely will. With thag much anger he will destroy himself.
But Raavi should bit hide behind "he questioned my character". I am hoping against hope he thinks about her part in what went wrong.
A lot of people mentioned that how can she divine what Shiva is feeling, or why she should be handling his insecurities. She should not bear the burden of that.
But I beg to differ- being married in itself means that you carry your partners burden. And Raavi NEEDS to realize that. You cannot just say I want to live with you or move on ahead with you- you need to show it. And not the way she "showed" the clueless family. It is not about just generally happy and just going about your routine blindly, while your partner is severely unhappy
Shiva could have done the same thing- he could have continued living his life, all happy and clueless to what Raavi was going through. He need'nt have stood up for her to Rishitha, been angry with; fought with Dev, or even think about how sad it was for her to get stuck with him. What if he had just waltzed into the storeroom on the first night and been insensitive to her condition- just said, ok what's done is done, let's just move on and start a life. If he had, everyone would have been behind him with pitchforks for being a chauvinist 😐
No, he put himself in her shoes, despite hating her. He need not have, but he did. That is ny problem with Raavi- at no point in the marriage did she ever think from his perspective- how difficult must it be for him, how unprepared he is for this.
She first wants to him to be a stranger. Then she wants to compromise. She has no clue what she wants to do with the marriage. She always airs out her issues with him in punlic- yes she does stand up for him, but she contributes in many more ways to bring him down. A prime example is the shirt scene. They are not childhood friends anymore- she does not realize that he cannot react to his wife the same way he had recated to a distant relative
Everyone says she was taking steps- but all those seem more as a front to show society and the family. She wants to get the benefits of being a wife without putting in the effort.
There is more to a wife than cooking food, taking care of the family and just smiling and laughing with a person 😕 And your partner may not always tell you what is wrong- somethings you need to underand read between the lines.
Ok this became a long disconnected rant 😐
👏 Beautiful! You conveyed everything that was on my mind.
Originally posted by: funny_fubar
Ya I also keep wondering that- She might have just stayed in lala land and never found out about DevTa unless Dev brought it up. And even if Dev did, as long as he promised to stay faithful to the marriage, she might have just forgiven him 🤨
This is based on what I see in the last few episodes- Raavi thinks of everything on the surface level. She does not want to dig too deep into anything- neither her own feelings nor of the person in front of her.
Which is ok- there are a lot of people like her. But Shiva is being dragged down in his so called "love". He will probably not get support from the family. That is what irritates me- he will lose everything, and for what? Someone who does not even consider him human 🙁
She wants to "make things work with him" but cannot give him basic respect 😕 Was she going to just hide from her friends and other people who bad-mouth Shiva all her life? I don't think she thought anything through.
@bold: this is my biggest issue.. Shiva is being dragged down in the name of "love". He is the one who will now be forced to "improve" to suit Raavi, so that she stops considering him as a "jungli jaanwar". I dislike this so much 🤢
Bold: please girl, my heart can't take it anymore. It is so depressing to think how much Shiva is suffering. Honestly I want Raavi to equally suffer, but how will that happen? And I have no hope for the writers. Maybe I should just write a story, but my english sucks and nobody here understands russian 😔
Do try to write a story in English if you can! We would be love to read ❤️
Originally posted by: ShivaandRaavi
I’m honestly so tired of their relationship btw, they’re literally not compatible. Shiva deserves someone like him who can give him happiness and respect same with raavi she deserves the type of guy she wants.
Actually agree with this- while a truly open minded person would not care about the differences- but in real life it would be difficult for a graduate to be married a 10th pass( Not going to touch upon Junglee and Ganwar- calling someone ganwar is just BS, and as for Junglee, even educated people can have anger issues 🤷♀️)
It would actually come down to exposure- a 10th pass man/woman may not have seen the kind of life/people that a graduate has. And I am not even bringing in ego issues.
Shiva is a more ITV idealized version- he is actually exposed to a lot of ideas, sometimes more than Raavi, and while his ego is hurt, it is more of his insecurities projecting on Raavi. In real life, depending on the person, they might also bring in ego issues into their fights- like trying to prove the other person is smaller, or that they are better
That said, when two mature individuals are involved, they can find a way to bridge the gap, and in some cases even improve each other( OG Shiva-Raavi, and I am happy to say, one couple that I know of in my relations 😊)
Here Shiva is more astute than Raavi, but both are immature. They definitely need different, more mature people to handle them. Don't know if Raavi would be bored without Aag, but if she just wants to floats through life, she can find a similar guy who doesn't think too deeply and lead a comfortable, society approved standard life with him. Her CFA and Maami, will be happy, if not for anything else.
Shiva on the other hand needs Paani 😆 But someone who is mature and can look beyond the surface. Cool him down and read between the lines, because he won't say a lot. And before anyone comes up in arms- there are women like that too in the world 😆
Originally posted by: funny_fubar
This is my worst fear. Shiva needs to improve- I think he definitely will. With thag much anger he will destroy himself.
But Raavi should bit hide behind "he questioned my character". I am hoping against hope he thinks about her part in what went wrong.
A lot of people mentioned that how can she divine what Shiva is feeling, or why she should be handling his insecurities. She should not bear the burden of that.
But I beg to differ- being married in itself means that you carry your partners burden. And Raavi NEEDS to realize that. You cannot just say I want to live with you or move on ahead with you- you need to show it. And not the way she "showed" the clueless family. It is not about just generally happy and just going about your routine blindly, while your partner is severely unhappy
Shiva could have done the same thing- he could have continued living his life, all happy and clueless to what Raavi was going through. He need'nt have stood up for her to Rishitha, been angry with; fought with Dev, or even think about how sad it was for her to get stuck with him. What if he had just waltzed into the storeroom on the first night and been insensitive to her condition- just said, ok what's done is done, let's just move on and start a life. If he had, everyone would have been behind him with pitchforks for being a chauvinist 😐
No, he put himself in her shoes, despite hating her. He need not have, but he did. That is ny problem with Raavi- at no point in the marriage did she ever think from his perspective- how difficult must it be for him, how unprepared he is for this.
She first wants to him to be a stranger. Then she wants to compromise. She has no clue what she wants to do with the marriage. She always airs out her issues with him in punlic- yes she does stand up for him, but she contributes in many more ways to bring him down. A prime example is the shirt scene. They are not childhood friends anymore- she does not realize that he cannot react to his wife the same way he had recated to a distant relative
Everyone says she was taking steps- but all those seem more as a front to show society and the family. She wants to get the benefits of being a wife without putting in the effort.
There is more to a wife than cooking food, taking care of the family and just smiling and laughing with a person 😕 And your partner may not always tell you what is wrong- somethings you need to underand read between the lines.
Ok this became a long disconnected rant 😐
This was very well said! I agree with everything you put forth
@bold: this is what I feel too now, that she is just doing everything she does for the family and society, and also to save her own self respect in front of everyone -- which is fine, but it isn't what Shiva deserves
Originally posted by: funny_fubar
⚠️ Raavi frustration
I really really dislike the way Raavi's character is writen. 😳 She feels she is superior to Shiva and blames him for all her problems, including her shortcomings 😛
Shiva deserves better.
mere dil ki baat tu jane🤗
i was going to comment on your 1st post but couldnt stop myself for this one......
Wow meine apni saari Raavi badhaas nikaal di 🤣🤣🤣
Aah I am hoping Shiva does not do anymore stupid things today and the family wakes up from whatever Sastha Nasha they are doing. Each one, except maybe Krish and Suman, put ShiVi in this position- they better not get on their high horses 😒 They were acting like ShiVi were in an arranged marriage and slowly falling in love Are they even living in the same house 🤣
Originally posted by: funny_fubar
BTW folks, feel free to bash Shiva also 🤣 I am in protect Shiva mode right now, but he too has pulled a lot of 💩
You are right about Shiva doing a lot terrible things but since most of us connect with him and right now the disconnect and hatred for Raavi is too big for us to bash Shiva.
The things of Shiva's mistakes are that he has realized and made some kind of amends or he was misunderstood. The two biggest issues were the push and questioning Raavi's character. The push obviously was horrible and it damaged Shiva's character immensely (I was furious when that happened) but I am going to disagree that he questioned Raavi character. Based on how the scene played out, Raavi said that she rather live with an animal then a person like him, then Shiva responded that she if doesn't want to live with a jahil person like him, then she can leave and go with her gentlemen friends. Frankly speaking I would have said the same thing if someone said the same thing to me. People interpreted that scene differently and that is absolutely fine, but come to think of it both have committed some kind abuse towards each other, literally it is a toxic relationship to the T.