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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Doc

he was always grey i agree..but at least he should keep in mind what keerti did for him.in.past..what is his imporatnce in so called on.his.own.family



Ye pallavi.k.ane k baad usko itni footage mil ri hai werna..mun nhi lagata usko koi..

And.one thing more wo kitna.bhi.bachaley..

Hit and run case mei keerti jayegi ander...

So whats the use of ruining his relation with his wife ..

P.s mandar kaha mara hai.wo to anna k hosh thikane lagane ayega

U r clearly misunderstanding here.

U r passing off sunny n kirti's mistakes on Raghav.


Raghav ke samne agar koi pallavi ki insult karega aur wo chup rahega to wo galat hoga. But yaha to aisa hua hi nahi. 🤔🤔 Hua hai kya did i miss any scene like this.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Raghav uska dard samjhta hai but still rude sis >>>> biwi. Maybe cause pyar nahi hai. Or blood relation matter. Or pati patni jaisa rishta nahi hai.



Words are empty if you aren't following by action. Raghav ka action for sis till now. Drunk hoke roke kya fayda when he will side with sis and would be jamai raja.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: subbuappu

I think this is the first time I don't mind FL choosing someone who she sees fit for her, provided CVs show Mandar a good guy... If the show was provided with a chance for 1000 episodes and so, then the end game will be Raghav and Pallavi but if they will wrap in limited episodes, they can show dynamics and need not be a happy ending.. don't bash me for saying this but this is just my thought...


U r giving such ideas to CVS. 😪😪😪 Aisa mat karo yaar. Raghvi k liye hi hum dekh te hai ye serial.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: subbuappu

I think this is the first time I don't mind FL choosing someone who she sees fit for her, provided CVs show Mandar a good guy... If the show was provided with a chance for 1000 episodes and so, then the end game will be Raghav and Pallavi but if they will wrap in limited episodes, they can show dynamics and need not be a happy ending.. don't bash me for saying this but this is just my thought...

I am with you in this.Pallavi and Raghav are on different pages in this relationship.
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: hapc

Also why did the makers completely butcher Keerthi?? I really liked her when she was against the marriage in the beginning and wanted to know if Pallavi was ok. Ever since Sunny came she is awful. Still her blind trust for Sunny can be for xyz reason because he’s been manipulative and lot of people in abusive relationships also can’t think straight. But what was that in the precap?🤢 Instead of going I know that I was wrong and I’m sorry but I have changed and have never even thought about driving irresponsibly since that day, she says nahi aati sharm, her brother will protect her, why did she meet Pallavi and throws down the plate. Just🤢

She is pathetic lady.. she should atleast apologize Pallavi and beg her pardon but naa... She has to taunt pallavi along with the lambat khajoor seeing her brothers support.. how much CVS butchered her character...😔 i thought only she was the same one in whole show even keeping above pallavi and Raghav...

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

Pallavi's dreams were shattered, she's been struggling for two years but he's be struggling for ten. She lost a husband she knew for a few months, but he lost half the family he was born into and grew up with.

I don't think you can ever compare or judge the trauma that two different people go through and it's not fair. No grief can be quantified as bigger or smaller than the other because it is subjective to the person involved. However, the fact is that the 17-year-old Raghav is still very much alive in his heart and mind who hasn't recovered even a bit from the burden on his soul. I don't expect him to think about law and order here at the expense of losing his sister. He just can't bring himself to do it and it would be extremely strange if he did.

I am glad he pointed that out because she clearly never thought about this when saying his love for his sister is blind. No, I don't think it's blind, rather he's ensuring his ears are deaf to all her words, accusations, taunts, and the rest because he'd never able to live with himself if he lost his sister and maybe even his mother because of all this.

I don't expect Pallavi to have to compromise or side with him just because she's a woman/his wife, but I do want to see that she fully understands the context in which he's operating just the way he understands her. Otherwise, it feels lopsided.


this is a long one sorry - I probably went on a few tangents here, my bad. LOL


@bold: I think you brought up some great points (in previous comments too) but why does she have to understand him? She and D fam are the victim's family here, they have every right to know and seek justice and every right to question anyone who is involved in the crime (cover up or the crime itself). This includes her now questioning Raghav. I just am not sure why she has to understand him. She is the wronged party here. She is the one who isn't getting the closure she and D fam actually deserve in this situation. Raghav saying to just use him as the scapegoat, is like putting a band aid on top of a gun shot wound. Who is it going to appease? What is it going to resolve? Who would get closure? What about Pallavi's behavior toward him made Raghav think that it would be a good enough for her?


He understands her because all of her feelings/thought process are valid and her actions are right. If the roles were reversed, he would 1000% act this way too. (Tangent - but how much do we wanna bet that they're gonna make this all come full circle and that Rao villain guy is somehow related to Pallavi - how would Raghav act then...)


She can understand his feelings and his thought process (I agree with you on why he feels this way and how his trauma is causing him to react this way), but his actions are still wrong. I think she does understand why he's doing this and the context in which he's doing it - she said as much when he was faking being drunk. Today's outburst of hers is just her trying to convince him that what he's doing is wrong and is going to ruin his life.


I think what she doesn't understand is how he can actually ignore her pain this much. He gave her one option - him as the scapegoat - but if he knows Pallavi so well - how could he not have anticipated she would react that way? I think even a part of him knows she won't ever turn him in.


Also, she hasn't even gotten a SORRY from Keerti. That's the the least he could make Keerti do. He's not seeing the vampy side of Keerti. So yeah, there is truth to what Pallavi said about him being blinded by his love for his sister. He can't see that she hasn't even been remorseful to Pallavi about it.


Like how has this not come up in the show at all?! I get he has loose morals but they aren't that loose where he doesn't care about an innocent's persons life. They show scenes of him helping people - even Mandaar - to show that. He's not ruthless in that sense. He said he understood Pallavi's pain. But he's also showing her that he won't do what he is capable of to actually ease her pain. We all understand why. Pallavi understands why, but it won't stop her from feeling hurt about it. She is invested in this relationship and bettering him. He said he would commit to her happiness & change for her. Yet, here, when he should be a husband to her & be that changed man, he can't, because he's too busy being a brother to Keerti.


He brought up the abortion thing - in the end its not the best example to use to justify his rationale- no one is going to jail for an abortion. There is no victim's family that is left waiting for closure. That "life" didn't share 20-25+ odd years of memories with other people. It didn't leave a void in someone's life.


Regardless of all that's happening and the different sides/perspectives/opinions on the characters - I am so glad this is happening LOL. I live for angst. This is setting up the story quite nicely IMO of them drifting apart and Mandaar entry to shake things up. That's going to put Raghav in the position of whether to actually prioritize Pallavi in his life & fight for her, or to be noble and let her go. And for Pallavi, is Raghav worth it or was Mandaar the better fit for her? Can she live with a morally grey man (assuming Mandaar is the real Mandaar who was all good and noble) or is someone more "normal" better?


EDIT: Also, Raghav does understand Pallavi because he couldn't catch the Rao guy who's deceit is ultimately what led to the death of his father & brother. Yet, he can't look past his own trauma to help her get the justice he was never able to get for his own family. We all can see why (he needs a therapist). But Pallavi, who is going through her own trauma again right now, won't internalize that. Really, I should say she won't accept that. She's going to demand more of Raghav just as she always has.

Edited by fria319 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

All of us are discussing Raghav and Pallavi's POV but actually the way the story will move forward is not in the hands of the audience.

Can we take a moment to appreciate Shivangi and Sai.... the way they enacted the scene was superb... so natural.

Shivangi's eyes as she potrays the emotion of a woman whose husband has just exchanged a most important piece of evidence that would have brought a closure to her past trauma... Sai lowering his eyes as he potrays a husband acknowledging the guilt..... Shivangi when she asks "Am I not your family"... beautiful.... absolutely beautiful 👏👏👏

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

Raghav uska dard samjhta hai but still rude sis >>>> biwi. Maybe cause pyar nahi hai. Or blood relation matter. Or pati patni jaisa rishta nahi hai.



Words are empty if you aren't following by action. Raghav ka action for sis till now. Drunk hoke roke kya fayda when he will side with sis and would be jamai raja.

Rude sis vs biwi nahi hai bhai.


Ye rude sis vs zombie mandar ki baat hai.


Closure is to know what happened to mandar. She said so today logon ko wajah to pata hoti hai but she didn't even know wajah.

Ab wajah pata chal gaya hai to she wants saza. Closure deny nai kiya. Saza bhi deny nai kar raha hai.

But wo side me khade hoke apni behan ki barbadi nai dekh sakta.


Hit and run hota to bat aur thi but hit hua run bhi hua but Raghav coverd it up for kirti this s what people do. Agar wo apne cover up ka credit kirti ko dena chahta hai to nothing wrong in that. Kirti s undedseving and downright stupid n foolish to hurt such a brother but he can't do the same.

Sach ki zid hai ye. Morally correct hone k chakkar me behan ki bali nai chadayega ye.


@Maybe cause pyar nahi hai. Or blood relation matter. Or pati patni jaisa rishta nahi hai.


He s not bothered by all these. He values her n it s as clear as daylight.. what all he didn't do for her to be accepted back by her family wo sab action nai tha kya. He even said we will together take care of d family wo action nai tha.


Despite her all planning n plotting n asking his mother of she s a culprit he s understanding her. Itna understanding to waise wale relation wale pati patni me bhi nahi hoga..

He s trying to do damage control by damaging himself in the process.


Khud se bhi ladke biwi se bhi ladke he s saving his sister who s not even an ounce greatful for the efforts of her brother.


BAAT KIRTI AUR PALLAVI KI NAHI HAI. BAAT MANDAR AUR KIRTI KI HAI.

Pata nai sab isko pati vs patni kyu bana rahe hai.


It s actually ex-husband who s apparently dead vs current n living sister hai.


If i m not wrong. Correct me if i m wrong.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: hapc

Also why did the makers completely butcher Keerthi?? I really liked her when she was against the marriage in the beginning and wanted to know if Pallavi was ok. Ever since Sunny came she is awful. Still her blind trust for Sunny can be for xyz reason because he’s been manipulative and lot of people in abusive relationships also can’t think straight. But what was that in the precap?🤢 Instead of going I know that I was wrong and I’m sorry but I have changed and have never even thought about driving irresponsibly since that day, she says nahi aati sharm, her brother will protect her, why did she meet Pallavi and throws down the plate. Just🤢


I am yet to go through the entire thread but I agree on makers butchering Keerthi. Makes me wonder is it the same character that once went out in rain to offer shelter to Pallavi when she was just a friend. This is at the same when amma and Keerthi were afraid of stepping out of their house due to infamy with the photoshoot scandal.

Also Keerthi was the one who has helped pallavi on the sangeet night unasked.. Keerthi also had helped her in keeping the fake accounts for d Dam.


Mansi's character turn about we can understand because makers have not shown much of her earlier. But Keerthi had been shown as non selfish and helpful to Pallavi. That she is suddenly made this selfish that she wants to let Farhad be blamed for a crime he is no way related. I find it very difficult to forgive unless sunny had hypnotised or nlp programmed her 😂. At the least show Keerthi as pregnant and she is doing all this to save the father of the child and the hormones are messing with her mind.

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Posted: 4 years ago

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I would have been ok if RR got the pen from the study or somewhere. But pretending to be drunk so that his wife tends to him. Poor thing is feeling sad for the hubby's feelings while the husband is keeping an eye open and observing her to steal the pen. The fact that he steals it from under her pillow is so below the belt even for RR.


Only mercy the makers have shown is they had RR had pretended to be drunk in the bedroom if he had tried to charm or seduce pallu, I am sure the show would have lost some audience today.

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