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Posted: 4 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Nja91

Exactly. What is the purpose of these scenes from makers standpoint. I mean if the intention is to ahow that pp is so "affected" even by the most trivial physical contact of hands touching etc.- what purpose does that serve? I mean we can already see how crazy delusional, obsessive, vile and stupid she is. So the hand hold is not telling us something we dont already know about pp. But it makes Virat look like he is swept away in his emotions. The way they established Virat- A guy like Virat who measures his every word and action SO carefully except when he is with Sai, aai n Sunny would never even in impulse hold pp's hand in this situation.

So more than Virats intention, my frustration is with what is it that makers are trying to convey?! Other than pissing off the audience its not doing much. 🙄


Yaar the fact of the matter is that the makers are sloppy. I don't even know if they have intentions behind such scenes anymore. It's not worth stressing over. I share your frustrations.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: tptwi


For this, I am going to wait and watch. Last week's SaiRat fight post-college fest was one of my favorite episodes till date, and I kept telling everyone to wait to see what actually happens before judging based on the "guardian" dialogue in the precap.

As they have developed Virat's character thus far, and the Virat we have been seeing- he cannot see Sai in pain AT ALL. This is the same man who freaking out when he thought Sai's back was hurting when she was posing for the photo 🤣

So, I have hope that he will freaking destroy Paapi, because anything else would be out of character. Anyways, let's wait and watch.

This is Ghum, so we always have to be prepared to be let down.

Ya i wanna be hopeful too. but all of the virat pp scenes where virat is pissed at pp have been "mild". The swimming pool scene after Sai left, hospital scenes, and the bedroom scene where pp is comparing herself to Sai were good because we see Vurats firmness and clarity about Sai's place in his life. But none of those scenes show Virat's RAGE at Sai being hurt/insulted. I want to see that. I want to see him really just lose it for a change. And to do that, i actually wanted to see the stage set up for it perfectly- Sai actually needs to get "pushed", land far away from pp making the scene speak for itself that pp was deliberately trying to harm Sai in her madness and it was not an accidental shove to free her own hand.

I will be beaming with joy and happiness if Virat shows that RAGE tomm. Nothing would make me happier but I deliberately keep a check on my expectations after being let down in the past.

Edited by Nja91 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Nja91

Ya i wanna be hopeful too. but all of the virat pp scenes where virat is pissed at pp have been "mild". The swimming pool scene after Sai left, hospital scenes, and the bedroom scene where pp is comparing herself to Sai were good because we see Vurats firmness and clarity about Sai's place in his life. But none of those scenes show Virat's RAGE at Sai being hurt/insulted. I want to see that. I want to see him really just lose it for a change. And to do that, i actually wanted to see the stage set up for it perfectly- Sai actually needs to get "pushed", land far away from pp making the scene speak for itself that pp was deliberately trying to harm Sai in her madness and it was not an accidental shove to free her own hand.

I will be beaming with joy and happiness if Virat shows that RAGE tomm. Nothing would make me happier but I deliberately keep a check on my expectations after being let down in the past.


I have not seen the scene in KD, so I cannot speak about that. But, I don't think how far Sai is pushed should matter in terms of Virat's anger. The bottom line is that this vile woman pushed Sai, causing her to literally bang her head on the table and bleed. Like I said before, it will be out of character for Virat do show any emotions other than rage tomorrow. If he lets Paapi slide, then that will just be the makers butchering his character yet again, and I am sincerely hoping that does not happen.

I also am keeping a check on my expectations, because as you said, the makers cannot be trusted to handle anything properly.


I truly think we are on the same side here 😊

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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forgot to tag you on the post above!

thank you for being my analysis buddy on this forum. like always, I love our discussions!

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Posted: 4 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Nja91

I am unfortunately not too optimistic. 😢

In KD Sai fell far away from the spot after being pushed. It was obvious that pp wasnt just freeing her hand but "pushed" away Sai deliberately to make her fall and hurt her but the precap here in ghkkpm does not look like that. It looks more "accidental" than KD.

In KD virat actually i think even says that as an argument that I'm not stupid enough to believe that sai landed up on this spot from an "accidental" thing so far from the bed where you were and rather this was a deliberate push by you.

So thats why i am worried virat may be milder because he will actually see that maybe it was " accidental" and not a deliberate attempt to push and hurt her.


Neerja,

AFAIK from KD,


pakhi doesn’t mean to push her! She herself was surprised that sai hit her head but virat will come in the end and believes that she intentionally did it. There are 3 incidents in this birthday that will rile her up


1. virats MU that she intentionally pushed sai. There is a dialogue where she will say she will never forget this.

2. Trimirthi will be quiet. Mohit questions her. And virat says shut up or something. She is so egoistic that she takes this seriously

3. The most important thing that pisses her off is when virat says sai that “her birthday (or birth) itself is his gift “. It is so not gonna sit well with her.


This incident is the main reason I think pakhi senses that virat will blindly believe whatever he sees when it comes to sai and gets emotional to th point of losing control . She will use it against him
😟


This party is a setup for some future tracks. There are lot of dialogues that are worth listening to.

Edited by sadiltl - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: sadiltl


Neerja,

AFAIK from KD,


pakhi doesn’t mean to push her! She herself was surprised that sai hit her head but virat will come in the end and believes that she intentionally did it. There are 3 incidents in this birthday that will rile her up


1. virats MU that she intentionally pushed sai. There is a dialogue where she will say she will never forget this.

2. Trimirthi will be quiet. Mohit questions her. And virat says shut up or something. She is so egoistic that she takes this seriously

3. The most important thing that pisses her off is when virat says sai that “her birthday (or birth) itself is his gift “. It is so not gonna sit well with her.


This incident is the main reason I think pakhi senses that virat will blindly believe whatever he sees when it comes to sai and gets emotional to th point of losing control . She will use it against him
😟


This party is a setup for some future tracks. There are lot of dialogues that are worth listening to.


So i think both in kd and here, after deliberately pushing Sai , pp immediately feels "bad" or "guilty"because she knows she went too far in her hate, in her madness that she actually hurt Sai but instead of apologizing in heartfelt way she makes that also an instance of self pity n ego wherein she is like- i didn't mean to do it..

Its similar to Sai knowing she went too far when she did the drama of fake police and her death but the difference is that Sai immediately accepted her fault immediately. Publicly apologized on stage for it herself of her own accord , no one asked her to do it. Sai always owns up to her mistakes and even when not at fault, she lets her goodness take precedence over ego. Like the time she got pp back home or made sure pp eats. But. Pp is not like that. Even when she knows she is wrong, she makes it sbout herself rather than ending the matter with a simple apology.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Loved your post! I too think Virat - Pakhi scene was way off. I also think that the creators show these scenes on purpose, they wanna clearly amplify an impulsive gesture of Virat to shut Pakhi up, so that it becomes a point of discussion.
They don’t want us to move on from Pakhi either. What is Pakhi without her obsession over Virat? A long forgotten lunatic? Just a cast member, whose face is still wrongly appearing in the montage? Their intentions to signify Pakhi as a victim is actually degrading Virat’s character. The third angle is long gone in this love story but they just want to delude us that still there are traces left, so that Pakhi gets her significance in the show.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: tptwi


I have not seen the scene in KD, so I cannot speak about that. But, I don't think how far Sai is pushed should matter in terms of Virat's anger. The bottom line is that this vile woman pushed Sai, causing her to literally bang her head on the table and bleed. Like I said before, it will be out of character for Virat do show any emotions other than rage tomorrow. If he lets Paapi slide, then that will just be the makers butchering his character yet again, and I am sincerely hoping that does not happen.

I also am keeping a check on my expectations, because as you said, the makers cannot be trusted to handle anything properly.


I truly think we are on the same side here 😊

Ya it does not matter how far away she is pushed. But as a viewer those tiny details make a difference. The setup, the staging of the situation should speak too. Its analogous to a crime scene. And especially with virat an ACP, i not only want him to lose it because he is emotional about Sai, but i want the police officer in him to see the situation and see the obvious. What Sai actually getting pushed and falling a little further away will do is that the police officer Virat knows immediately that it wasn't just an accident and then the husband in him reacts with rage at the thought that pp could be so blind in rage that she actually pushed Sai and made her fall, het hurt.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91


So i think both in kd and here, after deliberately pushing Sai , pp immediately feels "bad" or "guilty"because she knows she went too far in her hate, in her madness that she actually hurt Sai but instead of apologizing in heartfelt way she makes that also an instance of self pity n ego wherein she is like- i didn't mean to do it..

Its similar to Sai knowing she went too far when she did the drama of fake police and her death but the difference is that Sai immediately accepted her fault immediately. Publicly apologized on stage for it herself of her own accord , no one asked her to do it. Sai always owns up to her mistakes and even when not at fault, she lets her goodness take precedence over ego. Like the time she got pp back home or made sure pp eats. But. Pp is not like that. Even when she knows she is wrong, she makes it sbout herself rather than ending the matter with a simple apology.


This time she'll apologize. Rono was totally violent with RK, even family. Then RK apologized to Imon

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91


So i think both in kd and here, after deliberately pushing Sai , pp immediately feels "bad" or "guilty"because she knows she went too far in her hate, in her madness that she actually hurt Sai but instead of apologizing in heartfelt way she makes that also an instance of self pity n ego wherein she is like- i didn't mean to do it..

Its similar to Sai knowing she went too far when she did the drama of fake police and her death but the difference is that Sai immediately accepted her fault immediately. Publicly apologized on stage for it herself of her own accord , no one asked her to do it. Sai always owns up to her mistakes and even when not at fault, she lets her goodness take precedence over ego. Like the time she got pp back home or made sure pp eats. But. Pp is not like that. Even when she knows she is wrong, she makes it sbout herself rather than ending the matter with a simple apology.


Again, I don't want to say too much before watching the episode. But I completely agree with you. Even if Virat misunderstands Paapi, it is not too much of a stretch for it to be the truth- he knows how much she hates Sai and how she spares no moment to taunt or insult her. It is not that hard to just apologize to Sai and say it is was accident. I am sure she will instead victimize herself and say that Virat is blaming her because of Sai, once again finding a way to bash Sai. The entire tamasha could be avoided if she just accepts her mistake, but we all know that is not going to happen.

And of course Virat will tell her to shut up...he has even said it to her before but in different words ("bas Pakhi"). She will surely create a huge drama and he will be 100% justified in telling her to stop talking.

About the last point in terms of Paapi getting pissed that Virat says Sai is his gift... seriously... how low can a woman steep to take offense to a husband saying this to his wife 😡 Anyways, Paapi already knows how much Virat loves and cares for Sai, so these words should not be a shock to her.

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